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Partition Three

tripped and fell down a hole
Joined:  Sep 11, 2022
Realignment. Hololive in 2020/2021 was still in COVID mode, so the emphasis was on streaming. Now that it's in the past, Cover's shifting gears to what the whole point of hololive was supposed to be.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
This is what Hololive gets for turning the 4 council members and Irys into Promise. They should know better by now about the curse of 4.
 

Did You Know

It's morally right to make fun of Unitards
Joined:  Sep 24, 2022
They need to course correct before someone forms a bigger mob to lynch management.
 

thhrang

Punished Autism Extraordinaire
Early Adopter
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Joined:  Sep 13, 2022

Bronze

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Joined:  Nov 2, 2023
No. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

Changes never get complete agreement, especially in crowded workplaces. Direction disagreement aside, some may simply not want to put additional effort adapting a change they don't personally look forward to. Especially now PLs are openly pointed at, the cost of rejection is lower. This doesn't mean everything is perfect or some talents aren't frustrated of these disagreements, but we should wait and see the aftermath of the change before openly arguing it's over

For some I'm probably coping and maybe I am, but I think it's a fair perspective. At least twitter doomposts too hard in my opinion.
 

VSoyBoy

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Joined:  Feb 16, 2024
Realignment. Hololive in 2020/2021 was still in COVID mode, so the emphasis was on streaming. Now that it's in the past, Cover's shifting gears to what the whole point of hololive was supposed to be.
You don't drastically change the work relationship like that so deep into it. If they wanted to force the Idol stuff, they should introduce that requirement for new debuts and those who are fine with it only, those who are not should be left alone to keep on doing their job as they have been since the beginning.
 

46gumi

Forever Siro's Punching Bag
Joined:  Sep 30, 2022
This is what Hololive gets for turning the 4 council members and Irys into Promise. They should know better by now about the curse of 4.

"Promises are meant to be broken" as they say
 

Nuenqu

Idiots are my type.
Joined:  Jan 13, 2023
Well, that fucking sucks. Do you reckon we'll get a few more before the end of the year - and who will it be?
Make your bets.
 

Fucking YTs

I just want to annoy people in peace.
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 11, 2022
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Limkin

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Joined:  Mar 1, 2023
It's just a rrat but the timing of the statement regarding the direction the company wants to move in combined with the loss of several major talents seems to suggest Hololive is pushing too hard into the song-and-dance media aspect of the company and moving away from streaming to some degree, which is what the fans care about more than anything.
Aqua left and went on to say she wants to do concerts as indie too. Chloe left and she was one of the most music invested members who joined Cover specifically to do this as a job. Fauna also said she didn't mind the idol part of the deal. The "they just wanted to be streamers" doesn't add up. I can maybe agree with Ame, but she has a terminal "more ideas than time and luck to finish them"
 

Zizara

No faith in Humanity
Dizzy's Wife
Joined:  Oct 30, 2022
> work to keep the entertainers being creative on camera as much as possible
:magnino:
> burnout all your entertainers with constant meaningless administrative busywork
:shubaIapprob:

Japanese corporate autism is responsible for this, I can sense it.
 

Stunned But Dumb

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Joined:  Jan 29, 2023

AmeSame

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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
Isn’t it kind of weird that Kiara is shocked by the announcement, it feels like this is a very very recent disagreement
 

Drosselmeyer

Tick Tock Tee
Joined:  Oct 29, 2022
I wonder if this is more a result of seeing people like Doki and Mint excel after leaving their corpo. Holomems that don't care for the idol song and dance (or the stringent practices and scheduling that comes with it) have little reason to stay if they're confident they can do just as well on their own without all the restrictions and bureaucracy.

It doesn't necessarily mean that things are bad behind the scenes, but could simply be a manifestation of the trend that many have been predicting--vtubers moving away from corpos and indies becoming more prominent.

However, Chloe seems like an outlier in that case, and could indeed be evidence that something is rotten in the blue dorito garden.

Honestly, I'm not really sure what to think. Aside from being a fan of Chloe's music, Fauna is the only one to really impact me personally, so I'm still processing.
 

nooternun

(๑ 'ᆺ' ) Pfp is me IRL
Joined:  Mar 15, 2023
What in the VT is this thread?

Btw this the OG thread title: the-is-hololive-shitting-the-bed-discussion-thread.

If it's not a VT title why change the name?
 
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Jean Valjean

Brimming with salt
Joined:  Feb 22, 2023
I'm unironically beginning to consider total corpo death. I've been membered to Fauna for a long time and I watch her streams a lot. If Chammers leaves I'm going to fucking lose it.
 

Stunned But Dumb

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Joined:  Jan 29, 2023
What in the VT is this thread?

It's like the honeymoon period after a graduation announcement where everyone wants to voice their frustrations. The opposite of a honeymoon... a bittersun? Tensions are high. Give it a sec
 

Partition Three

tripped and fell down a hole
Joined:  Sep 11, 2022
You don't drastically change the work relationship like that so deep into it. If they wanted to force the Idol stuff, they should introduce that requirement for new debuts and those who are fine with it only, those who are not should be left alone to keep on doing their job as they have been since the beginning.
Happens all the time in the corporate world. Either you get with the program, or leave (like Fauna did). Plus you got to add in the typical Japanese corpo-autism into the mix
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Joined:  Mar 20, 2023

niggaphil

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Joined:  Oct 23, 2022
Someone need to make the sticker Hololive L so we could use now :gloomiLaugh:
 
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