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Hololive L Collection

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
There's still a month left of 2024, still time for Holo to catch Niji's graduation count! :painpeko:



I don't know. Don't even have it in me to longpost shit right now. I hope the girls end up happy.
Don't think like that. They can surpass Niji's graduation count! :chaos:
 

Saturnus

haha it's unou
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Affiliates are fucking graduations and calling them anything else is fucking gay and retarded.
Cover literally says so on their main page addressing affiliate status after Chloe's announcement.
Affiliate just means a graduate that will occasionally revisit and wants the merchandise royalties tugboat of cash. Maybe there is a non-compete for that, too.
Graduations are still on the table.
 

Limkin

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Joined:  Mar 1, 2023

AO Cody

Go read Cloudscratcher
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 13, 2022
Aqua left and went on to say she wants to do concerts as indie too. Chloe left and she was one of the most music invested members who joined Cover specifically to do this as a job. Fauna also said she didn't mind the idol part of the deal. The "they just wanted to be streamers" doesn't add up. I can maybe agree with Ame, but she has a terminal "more ideas than time and luck to finish them"
There's a difference between "I want to do concerts" and "all my bosses care about are concerts."
 

Paladin

Resident Sad Girl Enjoyer
Joined:  Jan 5, 2023

Big PiPi Energy

Man I Lemonlea F
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Mother FUCKER. I was on a self induced internet hiatus for the past few months due to work and other personal things. And today was the day I hopped back on. Welp...only one Holo oshi left I guess...
 

JusticeDog

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Joined:  Jul 3, 2024
There's still a month left of 2024, still time for Holo to catch Niji's graduation count! :painpeko:



I don't know. Don't even have it in me to longpost shit right now. I hope the girls end up happy.
Cover is winning the graduation race in proportion to their talent pool. :sinktheyacht:

Nijisanji is "smart" and pumps out talents by the dozens to counter their graduations. :mitothink:
 

RiverBear

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Joined:  Sep 29, 2022
So with Hololive's downfall being an inevitability at this point, which corpo do you think will replace the void? VShojo?
 

Jean Valjean

Brimming with salt
Joined:  Feb 22, 2023
I know Yagoo literally said that the company would not have survived without going public, but this is why you never go public.
 

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR

"Shut up, Dazzle. I will clip your balls" -SB
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
No. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

Changes never get complete agreement, especially in crowded workplaces.
You make it sound mundane but one thing is changes in the company making few dudes leave. This is a performer, face of the company, straight up saying "Shits fucked up bro im leaving". Thats abysmal hit to the image and unimaginable that this could come down to such a leave. We dont have to wait and see the aftermath, THIS IS the aftermath.
 

Takowednesday

Often seen, rarely heard.
Joined:  Sep 9, 2022
forgive me for the doom posting but Ina is gone right? Like, there is no way she is going to stay after the way cover fucked her over with the whole japan thing right? if she hasn't already struck an agreement with cover i give her a month, two at most, before the announcement. its so over guys, I have lost hope and have no cope. I hate to doubt my oshi but i can feel in my bones. I just hope Nagu will start streaming regularly.
 

John Vtuber👁️

Sentient Eyeball, Primarch of Hag Pride Worldwide
Certified Manwhore
Joined:  Oct 24, 2022
Now comes the part in post-2020 vtubing that will cause an immense amount of pain through the industry overall:

Consolidation.

How will the next few years shape up? Buckle up, because the bloodshed won’t end here, if so many have dipped for the same reason already!
 

dragoonkain3

Active member
Joined:  Feb 23, 2023
Thinking about it more, Ina and Gura are pretty much MIA, but they haven't graduated/affiliated still. Then again, I doubt either Ina nor Gura will stream all that much on their PL, so it makes sense to keep revenue from merch/royalty if they aren't going to do much with streaming anyways (unlike Ame and Fauna, who wants to be streaming).

Mumei on the other hand is AWOL due to school, and she hasn't graduated? I thought with all the coursework on top of Holo stuff, if anyone from promise will graduate first it will be her. But maybe she will ride on the mostly passive income from Holo since she can't stream all that much due to her school?

So yeah, IMHO the people most likely to stay by generation:

Myth
Calli - never graduate while she has the record deal, plus she's in Japan anyways. She also pretty much outstreams vast majority of HoloEN, so very unlikely
Kiara - don't watch her much, but clips of her shows she's pretty happy with Holo
Gura/Ina - they aren't streaming in their PL, so just do the bare minimum and still rake in passive income. May just be affiliate if they can't even make the bare minimum in the future, but I'm pretty sure Cover is bending over backwards in keeping them from officially graduating, especially Gura

Promise
IRyS - specifically said she will be in Holo for a LONG time, and she already lives in JP
Bae - she moved to JP because she specifically said she didn't like travelling so much from Aussie, so not her
Kronii - Still in Canada, but like Fauna her streaming is erratic at best and her idol power is just a tier smidge above Fauna's. Another likely candidate
Mumei - I frigging love Mooms, but I can feel it in my bones she will be next

Advent
Biboo - won't quit since she moved to JP specifically for holo
Fuwamoco - pretty sure same reason as Biboo, but I don't remember them specifically saying it. Still, they ain't leaving till they get their VN bday wish
Shiori - she was struggling so much as Natsumi Moe, I just can't see her leaving even if she is Fauna/Ame tier in terms of idol power
Nerissa - she has health issues with her throat and seems content to be living in Ravencroft home, so maybe her next year?
 

Limkin

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Joined:  Mar 1, 2023
forgive me for the doom posting but Ina is gone right? Like, there is no way she is going to stay after the way cover fucked her over with the whole japan thing right? if she hasn't already struck an agreement with cover i give her a month, two at most, before the announcement. its so over guys, I have lost hope and have no cope. I hate to doubt my oshi but i can feel in my bones. I just hope Nagu will start streaming regularly.
"FInally I can draw gacha all day and watch all the streams and anime backlog I had for years, yay!"
 

Jean Valjean

Brimming with salt
Joined:  Feb 22, 2023
I hate FPS games, but maybe I'll become an exclusive Doki watcher. At least I won't have any gut punches with her due to corpo stupidity.

I knew Fauna was the queen of slaps, but I didn't know she could slap this hard.
 

Stunned But Dumb

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Joined:  Jan 29, 2023
forgive me for the doom posting but Ina is gone right? Like, there is no way she is going to stay after the way cover fucked her over with the whole japan thing right? if she hasn't already struck an agreement with cover i give her a month, two at most, before the announcement. its so over guys, I have lost hope and have no cope. I hate to doubt my oshi but i can feel in my bones. I just hope Nagu will start streaming regularly.

I want to be optimistic but man I just don't know
 

Egg the Boiled

Yeah.
Joined:  Nov 2, 2022
On one hand all of you Phasebeggers are faggots but on the other hand it'd be really funny to see Pippa's reaction if Fauna was hired.
 

Limkin

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Joined:  Mar 1, 2023
Also, didn't Ina say the reason she doesn't want to do any vtubers designs is because it's a full time commitment? Just imagine all the eggs talking, telling her she can draw her own family of many daughters
 

Stunned But Dumb

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Joined:  Jan 29, 2023
On one hand all of you Phasebeggers are faggots but on the other hand it'd be really funny to see Pippa's reaction if Fauna was hired.
The unckle ruckus of phasebegs. Just with a funny mustache and glasses
 

Seth

Well-known member
Fubuki's Best Friendo
Joined:  Feb 11, 2023
I wonder if she's hard-graduating to lift the non-compete to join another corpo. That's all I could really think of for a reason, otherwise I would've assumed keeping the affiliation in place would've been more beneficial long-term, even if she's mad about something right now.
Just like Doki, Mint and Dooby, she has absolutely zero reasons to join another corpo. She will be really successful as an indie. She'll be able to get great sponsorship as an indie if she ever wants to relive the idol experience. She would gain nothing from joining a corpo.
 
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