Riifu Evergreen / exoe / Dude That's Lewd - EIEN Project Separation and VAllure Updates

[Azehara]

My main concern with all of this is that in that first year, they probably won't make as much money. She did mention that she made 11,000 on her last month (which is pretty impressive since EIEN was basically a new corpo). We know she was their biggest talent as far as numbers go. My question is how much of that money will she be redirecting towards projects and at what point will the earnings from each talent be enough that she makes a profit from it. At what point will she cripple her finances for this?

The idea of 100% merch going towards the talent is fine and all but she also mentioned that the merch itself would be funded by the company. This is not feasible unless its done VIA sites like UWU Market and shit like that where they cover the cost of production and inflate prices to get a cut.

I think she mentioned she didn't want to get rich off this thus why she isn't taking much of a cut but if there are managers, video editors, social media managers, and other shit, I feel like she will have to redirect a few thousand dollars each month to pay for all of that and early on it will come out of her pocket.

I'm very excited for this and while most of you might be watching expecting to see it fail, I feel like its a good business model to keep talents happy enough (at the cost of profits). If it manages to succeed it will be a huge slap to the face to a ton of the big corpos. Vshojo and Idol have been the proverbial wrench getting thrown into the machine and their existence has helped change things up a little (for the better).

 

[Nenélove]

My main concern with all of this is that in that first year, they probably won't make as much money. She did mention that she made 11,000 on her last month (which is pretty impressive since EIEN was basically a new corpo). We know she was their biggest talent as far as numbers go. My question is how much of that money will she be redirecting towards projects and at what point will the earnings from each talent be enough that she makes a profit from it. At what point will she cripple her finances for this?

The idea of 100% merch going towards the talent is fine and all but she also mentioned that the merch itself would be funded by the company. This is not feasible unless its done VIA sites like UWU Market and shit like that where they cover the cost of production and inflate prices to get a cut.

I think she mentioned she didn't want to get rich off this thus why she isn't taking much of a cut but if there are managers, video editors, social media managers, and other shit, I feel like she will have to redirect a few thousand dollars each month to pay for all of that and early on it will come out of her pocket.

I'm very excited for this and while most of you might be watching expecting to see it fail, I feel like its a good business model to keep talents happy enough (at the cost of profits). If it manages to succeed it will be a huge slap to the face to a ton of the big corpos. Vshojo and Idol have been the proverbial wrench getting thrown into the machine and their existence has helped change things up a little (for the better).

You're naive to say the least, not that that's a bad thing in this overly cynical site.
I take the glass-half-empty approach to this. To me, whore is telling the truth when she says she doesn't intend to make money off of this (she won't), her true goals are much more straightforward and petty. Rifuu's whole motivator here is spite, the most female of all emotions besides envy and vengefulness, she's doing this to try to be more successful than her old agency and stick it to them how her totally inexperienced way of doing things is obviously better; she obviously also thinks running an agency is shit easy and pities herself a whole lot for her untimely termination. Anyone driven solely by negative emotions is doomed to crash and burn.

That's why anyone who claims this is "a good business model" is retarded. This isn't a business model, because in a business your main objective should be profits, if it wasn't then you'd be a charity or a non-profit. Burning a whole load of cash not intending to make it back for purely spiteful and vengeful purposes is NOT a viable business model, this whole thing reeks of DreamWorks style feuding. She might actually succeed at first, but unless she gets lucky with a great talent then I seriously doubt it will last long, not because of whore shit (porn sells after all) but because I can already see the insane level of internal catfights there's gonna be when a bunch of ethots looking to make a quick buck are beaten raw by a psychotic workaholic who's breathing down their necks because she's driven by pure fucking hatred for her rivals.

 

[Seth]

You just know Exoe is losing hair watching this video.



SEETHE YOU

 

[Azehara]

You're naive to say the least, not that that's a bad thing in this overly cynical site.
I take the glass-half-empty approach to this. To me, whore is telling the truth when she says she doesn't intend to make money off of this (she won't), her true goals are much more straightforward and petty. Rifuu's whole motivator here is spite, the most female of all emotions besides envy and vengefulness, she's doing this to try to be more successful than her old agency and stick it to them how her totally inexperienced way of doing things is obviously better; she obviously also thinks running an agency is shit easy and pities herself a whole lot for her untimely termination. Anyone driven solely by negative emotions is doomed to crash and burn.

That's why anyone who claims this is "a good business model" is retarded. This isn't a business model, because in a business your main objective should be profits, if it wasn't then you'd be a charity or a non-profit. Burning a whole load of cash not intending to make it back for purely spiteful and vengeful purposes is NOT a viable business model, this whole thing reeks of DreamWorks style feuding. She might actually succeed at first, but unless she gets lucky with a great talent then I seriously doubt it will last long, not because of whore shit (porn sells after all) but because I can already see the insane level of internal catfights there's gonna be when a bunch of ethots looking to make a quick buck are beaten raw by a psychotic workaholic who's breathing down their necks because she's driven by pure fucking hatred for her rivals.

Don't think im as naive as you think I am. Most of the questions related to how she would operate came from me because I am a bit skeptical about the whole thing. Seems like she will drop a ton of the workload onto herself and even if she is a bit of a workaholic I fear that she might burn the fuck out. I did ask about the girls going at each other's throats when one starts to try to steal another's whale and she didn't really answer the question other than give a response along the lines of "not everyone will watch everyone else, people have their favorites". Maybe she didn't fully understand the question. I can assure you that in the best of cases, these girls will hate each other and in the worst of cases they will actively try to sabotage each other to try to win the attention of each other's fans. She mentioned how badass Riro was but someone like that can't work in an agency because their actions will make the whole company look bad.

There is some optimism because I want this to succeed but on the other hand I know there will be a ton of shit to deal with.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

You're naive to say the least, not that that's a bad thing in this overly cynical site.
I take the glass-half-empty approach to this. To me, whore is telling the truth when she says she doesn't intend to make money off of this (she won't), her true goals are much more straightforward and petty. Rifuu's whole motivator here is spite, the most female of all emotions besides envy and vengefulness, she's doing this to try to be more successful than her old agency and stick it to them how her totally inexperienced way of doing things is obviously better; she obviously also thinks running an agency is shit easy and pities herself a whole lot for her untimely termination. Anyone driven solely by negative emotions is doomed to crash and burn.

That's why anyone who claims this is "a good business model" is retarded. This isn't a business model, because in a business your main objective should be profits, if it wasn't then you'd be a charity or a non-profit. Burning a whole load of cash not intending to make it back for purely spiteful and vengeful purposes is NOT a viable business model, this whole thing reeks of DreamWorks style feuding. She might actually succeed at first, but unless she gets lucky with a great talent then I seriously doubt it will last long, not because of whore shit (porn sells after all) but because I can already see the insane level of internal catfights there's gonna be when a bunch of ethots looking to make a quick buck are beaten raw by a psychotic workaholic who's breathing down their necks because she's driven by pure fucking hatred for her rivals.

your like 99% right but shoot your own argument in the foot by mentioning dreamworks which was 100% a company running on pure spite hell their first major success was just the opposite of a disney film.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

your like 99% right but shoot your own argument in the foot by mentioning dreamworks which was 100% a company running on pure spite hell their first major success was just the opposite of a disney film.

Nenelove mentioned Dreamworks specifically as an example of a spite-fuelled feud.

You're not exactly telling him anything he doesn't already know.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Nenelove mentioned Dreamworks specifically as an example of a spite-fuelled feud.

You're not exactly telling him anything he doesn't already know.

Ok but it's still weird as fuck to mention it when the at least half the post was how spite powered business don't work and then use one of the most famous examples where it did.

 

[Nenélove]

Ok but it's still weird as fuck to mention it when the at least half the post was how spite powered business don't work and then use one of the most famous examples where it did.

It could work, sadly.

 

[Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで]

Looks like they did an announcement tweet with a trailer today under the company name VAllure.

VAllure on X: "Watch our trailer here - https://t.co/bk6BZXBr6N" / X | Ghostarchive

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Phase Connect recently launched their musical sub-group called "A/LURE" so there might be some conflict in that direction.

 

[Paladin]

Looks like they did an announcement tweet with a trailer today under the company name VAllure.

VAllure on X: "Watch our trailer here - https://t.co/bk6BZXBr6N" / X | Ghostarchive

ghostarchive.org

Phase Connect recently launched their musical sub-group called "A/LURE" so there might be some conflict in that direction.

For as much as I make fun of Exoe, stupidity regarding their choices. I have to respect the balls it takes to leave and say fuck you I will make my own vtuber company, and it will have blackjack and hookers(literally).

 

[Azehara]

The fact that she has planned this out and seems to be hitting every goal when it comes to scheduling, im impressed.

 

[mysticdreamlife]

Not a connoisseur of lewd tubers but if she can do better than what EIEN did for her then good luck, from what she said about EIEN it just seems to be a mess behind of the scenes (that's what you get with a female VTuber as the CEO though). They will have to try and overcome the limitations they will get though. Some people and companies won't want anything to do with them due to the NSFW nature of the company.

And when it comes to collabs, don't be surprised if EIEN's girls are told "no joining collabs with HER girls in it". Just like the Niji talent avoiding kson like the plague.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Does she have managers/in betweens or is she going to attempt to run this herself?

 

[mysticdreamlife]

Does she have managers/in betweens or is she going to attempt to run this herself?

The stream said she has a team behind her and there are a few managers available to help them if the girls don't want to manage themselves.

I wonder how she managed to come across these people to run the show or if she handpicked some of her Discord groomers to be part of it.

If a girl wants to self manage that is allowed according to Exoe but some stuff will be handled by the company (like thumbnails) and they are not being allowed access to the Patreon directly as fan interaction is only through YouTube and Twitter - nowhere else, not on Discord too. She liked the EIEN discord but she doesn't want to have her girls deal with something like that there which was effectively described as groomer central for a while.

 

[Tubedude]

Seems to be LewdFauna aka Riifu aka DudeThatsLewd's agency yes,

Heres the full staff listing



And here is their roadmap and main site image


TL;DR

- Announcement today
- March 2024 Auditions open from the 1st to the 31st
- April Debut prep starts
- May they start looking for vtubers to sponsor watchalongs of debuts
- June their talents debut

More info

Auditions — VAllure

www.vallure-agency.com

https://archive.ph/aVE3g

- Female only
- Previous experience in content creation
- Previous experience with whore content

Sign on/debut bonuses

- Production of Cover song on debut
- Purchause of equipment if needed on sign in
- Opportunity for a role in an NSFW game as VA
- Managers and behind the scenes editors

Crossposting info from general.

 

[Chiato Macchiato]

Looks like they did an announcement tweet with a trailer today under the company name VAllure.

VAllure on X: "Watch our trailer here - https://t.co/bk6BZXBr6N" / X | Ghostarchive

ghostarchive.org

Phase Connect recently launched their musical sub-group called "A/LURE" so there might be some conflict in that direction.

I honestly find funny all the "ready for something new?" when whores doing porn is the more common thing right now, we even have a full catastrophe going on Twitch because of it! A woman NOT doing porn in content creation is the real novelty. Even men are selling porn now, a time to be alive.

 

[Nenélove]

I honestly find funny all the "ready for something new?" when whores doing porn is the more common thing right now, we even have a full catastrophe going on Twitch because of it! A woman NOT doing porn in content creation is the real novelty. Even men are selling porn now, a time to be alive.

SILENCE! Talent freedom is totally innovative!

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

SILENCE! Talent freedom is totally innovative!

I've been watching Inception. That was obviously too much effort. Don't you think it would have been better if Nolan just made Super Hornio Bros 3?

 

[Azehara]

Does she have managers/in betweens or is she going to attempt to run this herself?

She said managers would be available.

I honestly find funny all the "ready for something new?" when whores doing porn is the more common thing right now, we even have a full catastrophe going on Twitch because of it! A woman NOT doing porn in content creation is the real novelty. Even men are selling porn now, a time to be alive.

Don't think it has been tried for Vtubers or at least not on a scale and set up in a way that seems like a possibility and not some retard with a wet dream.

Any 2 view can claim they have wanted to do this but coming from her it seems less of a fever dream and more of a reality especially since she seems to be dropping about $50,000 initial investment.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

For as much as I make fun of Exoe, stupidity regarding their choices. I have to respect the balls it takes to leave and say fuck you I will make my own vtuber company, and it will have blackjack and hookers(literally).

I'll legit throw them some money if they meme it up and the first stream after debut is literal blackjack.