Nooo! Why did you ban him Prostate? I was about to make a longpost mocking him being Yuko's number 1 cucksleeve.The driveby retard has been banned. Carry on.
Yes, but only the timeline where streaming didn't catch on and cheap or free tracking tech didn't exist eg. locked into expensive licenses/patents.Do you think in another timeline, that whole "multiplicty" or whatever debacle played out in the opposite direction; Like it became industry-standard to voice-act for a character role insted of the opposite, when VAs graduate a new one shows up to fill in for the character and so on.
Brings a whole new definition to the term "skinwalking" huh.
yeah shes most likely not coming back if we go by the other suspensions before her and her not appearing to anime impulseI just finished a god damn long day of company meeting, hmm whats new on TVA?
> After reading this thread
Glad that I am having a long arse meeting
Anyway, i guess Selen is gone for good soon.....?
Likelihood increases daily, the con appearance cancellation sounds like the final nail in the coffinAnyway, i guess Selen is gone for good soon.....?
Can we ignore the SEAYamanba and maybe post our favorite song/cover of last year?
Mine was roca's johnny b goode
Thanks Prostate, my man.The driveby retard has been banned. Carry on.
congratulations on the new nickname by the way.The driveby retard has been banned. Carry on.
'member Matsuri, who applied to Hololive and not Niji specifically because she was a Niji fan and didn't want her impressions be shattered by reality.When Pomu announced her graduation, the niji fans around me were very surprised because they thought Pomu was one of the most unlikely people to graduate, and she herself was a die-hard fan who came here because of nijisanji. Perhaps the reason for her graduation was that her dream was broken
Brave is Japanese, though, and hasn't had a presence in China until literally last month.Unless Idol lied about the Riro Ron suspension and the talents didn't buy the bullshit, I would also agree that the Brave thing is more of an issue to cause concern, especially from the talent's side. "What if we get sold to some chinese company?" Will the terms of our contract get fucked over because China Company wantsa bigger cut? Will advertising and support slow down? Shit like that will make you question how stable your current job is and activating PL accounts is possibly a smart move. Both to tell management to not fuck around and as a way to still have a presence online in case shit goes south.
Just imagine if AZKi hadn't had to suffer shared management with Upd8. Once they were out of the picture, her viewership increased by a literal order of magnitude.Wow alot going on today huh, I guess proctor is sleeping
Ignore my message im just archiving something I wrote on reddit
Tl;dr scummy practice and mismanagement on upd8
- In 2019, they tried to replace Kizuna Ai with 2 different voice actors, and released a very ... song with the lyrics of "Even if it's not me, it's fine". This triggered backlash within the community, losing her fans and viewership. In response to criticism, they added a 3rd chinese only voice actor.
- Despite their top earners literally brings in $millions (archive) in revenue, it was reported that they ended 2019 in a net loss of $6.2M (https://p2y.jp/activ8-large-deficit-675-million-yen/)
- Around march 2020, their 2nd best performer Oda Nobuhime announced graduation on 30 April 2020. In a collab stream a week later with Tamaki, her best friend, she stated (Archive) that upd8 management took full control of her content and personal life, often cancelled her projects & even went so far as using her twitter account to attack Tamaki. She finally broke (archive) and no longer could endure their abuses.
- On 24 April, Kizuna Ai announced that she would split from upd8 and made a new company (still under Active8 though) herself called Kizuna Ai KK. Notably she stated that she was against giving Ai 2 and Ai 3 the same body as Ai (hence the "clone incident"). She took them both to her new company, granted them new names of AiPii and Love-chan and a separate youtube channel. She said this has been in the works for some time.
- On the same day as Oda Nobuhime's graduation, AniMare & Honey Strap announced their ending of relationship with upd8. This effectively spelt the end for the company. Most of their talents left afterwards/already left.
- Upd8 limbo-ed around until November where they finally filed for bankruptcy, allowing the few remaining members to keep their identity.
What happened after for vtubers under upd8
- After the split, Kizuna AI enjoyed some popularity, but the world left her behind, livestream started becoming the norms and scripted content vtubers started losing popularity. While she still enjoyed somewhat decent/low viewerships on her videos, she's at her 5th year at this point and started considering her future as a vtuber. In late 2021 she announced that she will be on indefinite hiatus after her Hello World concert on Feb 2022. And has been on hiatus since. However, she held a paid concert in February 2023, and upload a 2 minute 6th year celebration video on Dec 1, 2022. No 7th year celebration for 2023.
- Oda Nobuhime later joined Hololive under the name Omaru Polka
- Hololive AZki, initially managed by both upd8 and INNK, sadly did not escape mismanagement after exitikg upd8, was very active on her PL account, created her own music group named La prière. She only started being more active on her AZki channel around April 2023, one year after the disbandment of INNK.
- AyaMina sisters, one joined Hololive under Inugami Korone, the other one is rumoured to be Nijisanji's Inui Touko, but no concrete evidence.
- Shibuya Hal, one of the most recognized name in the vtuber industry, actually stayed until the final day in december. Established his own corpo name Neo-Porte.
- Suou Patra - she was a pillar of 774 inc. until she went independent recently - 756k subscribers
- Tomari Mari - 477k subs, a decently popular independent vtuber who seems to have connections everywhere, participated in Shibuya Hal's Vsaikyou #1 and #2, collabed with Ange Katrina of Nijisanji, Matsuri of hololive, recently showed up in Fubuki's & Polka's year end totsumachi and Kson's Offline Meet as one of the guests That's as far as I know about him.
- Utai Makea - 455k subs, collabs alot with Holostars it seems.
- Omegasister - 375k subscribers, the other famous sister vtubers in JP beside HimeHina
- YuNi - a vsinger with 368k subs
- Inaba Haneru - 774 inc. - 354k subs
- Most are still active to various degrees of success, I saw like 10 retirements, not sure if they reincarnated or not.
In another timeline, upd8 didnt mismanage itself to oblivion and would become one of the big pillars of the industry with just the names they already had.
Brave is headed right for a buyout unless they implode first. Pretty simple which will then cannibalize the company and ruin careers.'member Matsuri, who applied to Hololive and not Niji specifically because she was a Niji fan and didn't want her impressions be shattered by reality.
Matsuri is wise.
Brave is Japanese, though, and hasn't had a presence in China until literally last month.
Just imagine if AZKi hadn't had to suffer shared management with Upd8. Once they were out of the picture, her viewership increased by a literal order of magnitude.
Granted, if the Upd8/Cover coop through INNK hadn't been a thing, Suisei might never have joined... or more probably joined a few months later, considering her connection with Kanata before Hololive. Might still have been a different character, though.
Can we ignore the SEAYamanba and maybe post our favorite song/cover of last year?
Though to be fair, she legitimately was hospitalized and just has been chilling doing art and gaming during recovery, so it's a long one but it makes sense at the end of the day.This is the longest period between yab and comeback (from obvious suspension) that we have seen for a NijiEN liver since Zaion, right? Given it was almost a month after Zaion was canned, seems like they are working out the same for Selen. I'd be surprised to see her return at this point. How long was the time between Yugo's "break" and their firing?
I'm definitely seeing her going back to indie just because of the type of person she is.Welp, See you in Vshojo, or Hololive, Selen!
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