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Nenélove

Menace of the Asylum
Early Adopter
Nene's Pet Latinx
Latinx/Latine
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
It depends on how the talents are incorporated into the corpo. Are they more of a NijiEN situation or an IdolES situation?
No my guy, this is an ENGLISH chart.
You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. If Phase and other corpos wanna play with the big boys then they are beholden to the same rules.
 

frz

Well-known member
Joined:  Oct 1, 2023
You have to a little careful with VSTATS they are only tracking YouTube lives I think. So people like Lumi are being under represented and they consider PhaseJP as a separate branch.

In terms of overall trends, Niji ENs numbers are extremely disappointing for their size and the fact that the Holostars are also at their heels.
Including phase JP would actually pull the avg ccv down to below nijiEN
Only Clara has >700 ccv the rest are low 3 views. Which isn't that bad for a first gen of a new JP corpo.
No my guy, this is an ENGLISH chart.
You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. If Phase and other corpos wanna play with the big boys then they are beholden to the same rules.
Not exactly it's "everyone but japanese" chart. Neobaka and AKA virtual aint english. Vlast is korean.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
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Worth pointing out that this doesn't count twitch stats, which two of the biggest talents in Phase stream a bit on. Tenma and Lumi pull some of the highest CCV in the company.
 

Sankisei

HOLOLIVE SAIKYO
Joined:  Feb 23, 2023
Counting Twitch would include Vshojo and would change nothing about the postion of PC
Phasefriends :BijouBijou:
 

Ballpark_Look

Well-known member
Joined:  Feb 1, 2024
No my guy, this is an ENGLISH chart.
You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. If Phase and other corpos wanna play with the big boys then they are beholden to the same rules.
Okay I do admit I was misunderstanding the table initially. Now it brings up another question. What are the rules of this table.

Not exactly it's "everyone but japanese" chart. Neobaka and AKA virtual aint english
I was to understand what the criteria for not Japanese is, because it seems quite arbitrary. AKA Virtual is based in Tokyo but employs Indonesian talents. Phase Connect main branch includes 3 primarily Japanese talents.

So the best I can theorize, is do they give off a Japanese vibe or not.
 
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God's Strongest Dragoon

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
Counting Twitch would include Vshojo and would change nothing about the postion of PC
Phasefriends :BijouBijou:
It wouldn't change Phase's position but it would slightly increase Phase's CCV as Tenma and Lumi have average CCV higher than 761. Honestly comparing off of this month is pretty sad when multiple phase girls were in Japan for like 1-2 weeks, causing them to stream much less.

And adding Vshojo would likely knock VSPO!EN off the chart
:gloomiLaugh:
 

VSoyBoy

Well-known member
Joined:  Feb 16, 2024
Counting Twitch would include Vshojo and would change nothing about the postion of PC
Phasefriends :BijouBijou:
I was bored and calculated the Twitch chart for VShojo, they would be at number 2 in the chart
MemberHours WatchedHours StreamedAvg CCVPeak CCVNotes
Apricot
129,377​
71​
1,822​
4,759​
GEEGA
242,212​
97​
2,489​
6,887​
Hajime
31,009​
17​
1,834​
3,980​
HarukaKaribu
0​
0​
0​
0​
No streams at all this month
Ironmouse
2,222,888​
269​
8,263​
17,793​
K9Kuro
6,424​
4​
1,647​
2,224​
In UK for half the month, no streams
MataraKan
203,756​
66​
3,073​
6,199​
MichiMochievee
83,301​
24​
3,485​
7,214​
In hospital for half the month, no streams
ProjektMelody
244,990​
844​
2,902​
8,868​
Zentreya
811,999​
166​
4,891​
10,187​
Overall
3,975,956​
799​
4,978​
17,793​

Edit: Took out KSON and Henya since it's supposed to be EN only.
MemberHours WatchedHours StreamedAvg CCVPeak CCVNotes
Apricot
129,377​
71​
1,822​
4,759​
GEEGA
242,212​
97​
2,489​
6,887​
Hajime
31,009​
17​
1,834​
3,980​
HarukaKaribu
0​
0​
0​
0​
No streams at all this month
Henya
184,146​
37​
5,031​
9,933​
Ironmouse
2,222,888​
269​
8,263​
17,793​
K9Kuro
6,424​
4​
1,647​
2,224​
In UK for half the month, no streams
KSON
75,674​
48​
1,583​
3,931​
Only twitch counted, she streams a lot on YouTube
MataraKan
203,756​
66​
3,073​
6,199​
MichiMochievee
83,301​
24​
3,485​
7,214​
In hospital for half the month, no streams
ProjektMelody
244,990​
844​
2,902​
8,868​
Zentreya
811,999​
166​
4,891​
10,187​
Overall
4,235,776​
883​
4,796​
17,793​
 
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Helmet-kun Backwards

I can't stop repeating words in longposts :(
Joined:  Feb 29, 2024
I was bored and calculated the Twitch chart for VShojo, they would be at number 2 in the chart
MemberHours WatchedHours StreamedAvg CCVPeak CCVNotes
Apricot
129,377​
71​
1,822​
4,759​
GEEGA
242,212​
97​
2,489​
6,887​
Hajime
31,009​
17​
1,834​
3,980​
HarukaKaribu
0​
0​
0​
0​
No streams at all this month
Ironmouse
2,222,888​
269​
8,263​
17,793​
K9Kuro
6,424​
4​
1,647​
2,224​
In UK for half the month, no streams
MataraKan
203,756​
66​
3,073​
6,199​
MichiMochievee
83,301​
24​
3,485​
7,214​
In hospital for half the month, no streams
ProjektMelody
244,990​
844​
2,902​
8,868​
Zentreya
811,999​
166​
4,891​
10,187​
Overall
3,975,956​
799​
4,978​
17,793​

Edit: Took out KSON and Henya since it's supposed to be EN only.
MemberHours WatchedHours StreamedAvg CCVPeak CCVNotes
Apricot
129,377​
71​
1,822​
4,759​
GEEGA
242,212​
97​
2,489​
6,887​
Hajime
31,009​
17​
1,834​
3,980​
HarukaKaribu
0​
0​
0​
0​
No streams at all this month
Henya
184,146​
37​
5,031​
9,933​
Ironmouse
2,222,888​
269​
8,263​
17,793​
K9Kuro
6,424​
4​
1,647​
2,224​
In UK for half the month, no streams
KSON
75,674​
48​
1,583​
3,931​
Only twitch counted, she streams a lot on YouTube
MataraKan
203,756​
66​
3,073​
6,199​
MichiMochievee
83,301​
24​
3,485​
7,214​
In hospital for half the month, no streams
ProjektMelody
244,990​
844​
2,902​
8,868​
Zentreya
811,999​
166​
4,891​
10,187​
Overall
4,235,776​
883​
4,796​
17,793​
While I will say that a 1 to 1 comparison doesn't necessarily line up because of Youtube's routine undercounts compared to Twitch, this is still really handy for comparison. I'm always shocked by how insane Ironmouse's numbers are compared to everybody else, she has so little overlap with the rest of the v-tuber sphere it feels like
 

Sankisei

HOLOLIVE SAIKYO
Joined:  Feb 23, 2023
It wouldn't change Phase's position but it would slightly increase Phase's CCV as Tenma and Lumi have average CCV higher than 761. Honestly comparing off of this month is pretty sad when multiple phase girls were in Japan for like 1-2 weeks, causing them to stream much less.

And adding Vshojo would likely knock VSPO!EN off the chart
:gloomiLaugh:
That doesnt matter since Brave Group would just buy anyone above them like always
I would be scared if i was a Phasefriend :botanshrug:
I was bored and calculated the Twitch chart for VShojo, they would be at number 2 in the chart
MemberHours WatchedHours StreamedAvg CCVPeak CCVNotes
Apricot
129,377​
71​
1,822​
4,759​
GEEGA
242,212​
97​
2,489​
6,887​
Hajime
31,009​
17​
1,834​
3,980​
HarukaKaribu
0​
0​
0​
0​
No streams at all this month
Ironmouse
2,222,888​
269​
8,263​
17,793​
K9Kuro
6,424​
4​
1,647​
2,224​
In UK for half the month, no streams
MataraKan
203,756​
66​
3,073​
6,199​
MichiMochievee
83,301​
24​
3,485​
7,214​
In hospital for half the month, no streams
ProjektMelody
244,990​
844​
2,902​
8,868​
Zentreya
811,999​
166​
4,891​
10,187​
Overall
3,975,956​
799​
4,978​
17,793​

Edit: Took out KSON and Henya since it's supposed to be EN only.
MemberHours WatchedHours StreamedAvg CCVPeak CCVNotes
Apricot
129,377​
71​
1,822​
4,759​
GEEGA
242,212​
97​
2,489​
6,887​
Hajime
31,009​
17​
1,834​
3,980​
HarukaKaribu
0​
0​
0​
0​
No streams at all this month
Henya
184,146​
37​
5,031​
9,933​
Ironmouse
2,222,888​
269​
8,263​
17,793​
K9Kuro
6,424​
4​
1,647​
2,224​
In UK for half the month, no streams
KSON
75,674​
48​
1,583​
3,931​
Only twitch counted, she streams a lot on YouTube
MataraKan
203,756​
66​
3,073​
6,199​
MichiMochievee
83,301​
24​
3,485​
7,214​
In hospital for half the month, no streams
ProjektMelody
244,990​
844​
2,902​
8,868​
Zentreya
811,999​
166​
4,891​
10,187​
Overall
4,235,776​
883​
4,796​
17,793​
Surprised that Melody is the third member over all even if we count JP members
While I will say that a 1 to 1 comparison doesn't necessarily line up because of Youtube's routine undercounts compared to Twitch, this is still really handy for comparison. I'm always shocked by how insane Ironmouse's numbers are compared to everybody else, she has so little overlap with the rest of the v-tuber sphere it feels like
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Gunrun should already buy the IDF and announce them as the new member
 

Limkin

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 1, 2023
she has so little overlap with the rest of the v-tuber sphere it feels like
Most of them didn't build their career on grift and aren't making money on people with "I can save her!" fetish. So it's only fair the overlap is so small
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
I would be scared if i was a Phasefriend :botanshrug:
Nah, Sakana knows that at least 5 of the girls would shank him if he sold to Brave.
 

Murrayしないで

Just go live!
Joined:  Nov 18, 2022
That chart seems to be missing a few other corpos which should have a presence, like Idol and V4Mirai. It's definitely unclear on what standard they used to pick which brands to show.

But back on topic, niji noombers low lol. I subbed to Klara Charmwood and I can't recall seeing her live with greater than 200 CCV recently. I can totally understand how the last two gen members would feel like they were sold a bill of goods when applying.
 

Seth

Well-known member
Fubuki's Best Friendo
Joined:  Feb 11, 2023
All this Phase noombers meanwhile Nerissa of the Ravencroft Klan is currently streaming to a higher ccv than the whole phase connect viewer base :BibooPopcorn:how do we like these noombas sisters :wawaspazzing:
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
All this Phase noombers meanwhile Nerissa of the Ravencroft Klan is currently streaming to a higher ccv than the whole phase connect viewer base :BibooPopcorn:how do we like these noombas sisters :wawaspazzing:
Only Hololive member streaming at 5pm PST. A lot of Hololive fans are known to never leave the walled garden and will just watch whoever is streaming until someone else comes on.
 

Seth

Well-known member
Fubuki's Best Friendo
Joined:  Feb 11, 2023
Only Hololive member streaming at 5pm PST. A lot of Hololive fans are known to never leave the walled garden and will just watch whoever is streaming until someone else comes on.
Small insignificant detail :BijouBijou:

Also everyone gets a small boost with the ENreco
 

Bug Eater

Well-known member
Joined:  Sep 15, 2022
I subbed to Klara Charmwood and I can't recall seeing her live with greater than 200 CCV recently. I can totally understand how the last two gen members would feel like they were sold a bill of goods when applying.
Pretty sure that the new Niji wave is still competing in views and CCV with the VAllure coomer 'corpo' that most people expected would fail before they even debuted a talent. Imagine travelling back in time to explain that to the forum like a year ago.
 

Ballpark_Look

Well-known member
Joined:  Feb 1, 2024
That chart seems to be missing a few other corpos which should have a presence, like Idol and V4Mirai. It's definitely unclear on what standard they used to pick which brands to show.

But back on topic, niji noombers low lol. I subbed to Klara Charmwood and I can't recall seeing her live with greater than 200 CCV recently. I can totally understand how the last two gen members would feel like they were sold a bill of goods when applying.
Niji losing ~1 000 000 watch hours and ~400(?) ccv compared to this point last year is insane
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
Niji losing ~1 000 000 watch hours and ~400(?) ccv compared to this point last year is insane
>lose biggest female streamer after bullying her for a year and harassing her until she attempted suicide twice
>lose one of the Luxiem moneyprinters, who graduated in August of last year, generating lots of views for his graduation and the run up for it
>lose 3 more talents, one of which is one of the founding members of the branch
>push out two more gens that are immediately on life support on debut, bringing down the average CCV
>become the pariah of the EN scene

Just Niji things :rikutazumi:
 

TKN_Lurker

Retired Lurker
Joined:  Dec 19, 2023
Another Niji EN, Kotoka Norahime, was also teasing a brand new outfit/skin. It feels like an omen for something about to happen...a merge perhaps?
 
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God's Strongest Dragoon

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
@Faceless Waifu so as one of the resident Niji ID loremasters, did ID get some random new outfits/skins before they got folded in? I've heard ID was given more control of handling their merch during the leadup to the folding and we might be seeing it again as Rosemi just collabed with a random ice cream shop in SoCal that is willing to stock her merch.
 
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