At this point the self neglect has turned into a form of self harm. This woman needs actual therapy/reset her life to break the cycle.
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I hope Fishman or one of his new wranglers has a plan to put her on a PIP and start effectively blackmailing her into medical care because that's the only way I see her actually doing anything.
Yeah, it very possible, but also removing her "blaze of glory" option may get her to come around get herself checked out.
Are you trying to tell me I should come out of anti retirement only weeks after announcing I would stop being an anti just to try and fix Pippa?
Last week, Pippa went on a little tangent during one of her streams about how she's glad that people on the lolcow sites are positive about her and aren't just talking about her because she's a cow. I feel like we need to start taking the gloves off and be more brutally honest for her sake, because I can't see a happy ending with the current trajectory:
As of right now, she is currently going down a spiral which will lead to her becoming a full-blown cow. With watching some of the more recent streams the past ~month+ or so, I feel like I've slowly been falling more and more into the mindset of certain parts being like witnessing a train run off a cliff a lot of the time (like as if I were watching a lolcow) and I fucking hate it. I genuinely do not enjoy hearing about how hungry she is (but refuses to eat), how she rarely drinks water (but when she does it has ants in it), how she uses AI characters as unironic therapy (but the AI tells her to kill herself), how she thinks the insane lolcow who prints out gigantic house-sized waifus is based (but he's apparently not dedicated enough / is grifting), how she has chronic pain (but outright refuses to go to the doctor or dentist and instead chooses to cope with all kinds of escapism and literal delusion), how she has literally nothing but streaming to live for, how she had literal stroke symptoms the other week (but coped and did nothing), etc, etc… I could go on, but you get the point, and literally all we can do is watch it happen. The people who only watch for this type of ‘content’ and cheer on this brand of suffering are not real fans who care about her - in fact, I'd wager that they're either there to laugh at her or try and keep her at their level - and if she thinks this kind of shit is her brand, she needs to shake that mindset as soon as humanly fucking possible. Pity parties and unironic cope sessions are not entertaining, they’re just pathetic and sad. We’ve all fucking seen where this kind of shit leads to before in several lolcows, and I’m growing more and more apathetic because it feels like a losing battle when even stream chats - the thing she unironically relies on for most of the support and validation in her life - can't sway her even when they all unanimously say the same shit about most of these subjects (the increased numbers also brought in more yes-men who validate her unhealthy shit as well, but for the most part chat still cares for her health and at least tries to help). The absolute refusal and inability to take real advice and pick one's self up is unironically one of the biggest traits of a cow, and it's absolutely not too late for this to be turned around - but if things continue down this path, I've got really grim predictions for the future.
I also started becoming more conscious of what felt like a real backtrack of her self-awareness when she first started talking about and literally coping over the retarded unironic AI therapy shit. That was the kind of behavior we'd all been dunking on Henri over for months in the threads (both on Kiwi Farms + here), and the level of cognitive dissonance required for us to continue making fun of Henri for that specific type of shit but give Pippa a pass for it is too high. It’s bad, unhealthy behavior that should not be encouraged and needs to be aggressively made fun of, because it’s pure cope and delusion, and she needs to attempt real remedies instead of retreating into self-inflicted hugboxes of pure fantasy.
Switching gears a bit to the company/Sakana, I'm going to quote myself:
I still stand by this. If nothing changes, this will very negatively effect Sakana & the company in future, both in terms of PR and in the monetary sense. Sure, he's still making money off of her in the short-term, but he and management should be really concerned about the long-term. The trajectory she's currently on will absolutely 100% burn her, it is an inevitability, and if something really bad happens to her as a result, she not only might not be there to collect superchats / merch sales in the future, the company would also likely have to deal with an angry mob (I outlined this part a bit more in these posts). I don't know what else they could really do outside of a forced vacation, but I really fucking hope that the people who have the ability to do something are taking this seriously and are trying to intervene wherever and whenever they can and aren't just sitting there watching this happen. Drastic measures might be in order at this point. Things are looking grim. Reminder that we are currently in the middle of an arc of her subsisting on two spoonfuls of food a day.
I'm going to end this blogpost with one final statement.
I do not want to watch a full-blown lolcow crash-and-burn arc happen here. Nobody wants to see that. It is not too late for the course to correct itself. It's going to take effort, and it's going to take her actually wanting to improve her situation, but if she continues to do nothing and only delves herself deeper into delusion & on-stream cope sessions, it is inevitably going to end in disaster.
I am now onboard the idea that her parents are scum. Practically every decent parent takes their kid to do a yearly checkup, or if they're really healthy every other year. Practically no child goes without getting sick enough, or breaking a bone, or something to land them at their GP. What the fuck
all this effort-post just for her to probably go "its fine, dood, dont worry about it" and go back to Colress greeting her being the highlight of her day
On a more nuanced and maybe retarded take, i think nobody online could help her at all, ngl, at most maybe Phase itself since its an actual job and the few people who have known her IRL like Sleepy or maybe Lisa, all online retards have brought her was the attention of kiwifarms, something 90% of the internet hates for being meany no-no, and a gaggle of tards who push her further into being a retarded sad girl because its the only way a v-tuber can be as pathetic as they are
Either way. the
take is that all of the manager autism phase has been collecting is solely to keep pippa from offing herself
On a more nuanced and maybe retarded take, i think nobody online could help her at all, ngl, at most maybe Phase itself since its an actual job and the few people who have known her IRL like Sleepy or maybe Lisa, all online retards have brought her was the attention of kiwifarms, something 90% of the internet hates for being meany no-no, and a gaggle of tards who push her further into being a retarded sad girl because its the only way a v-tuber can be as pathetic as they are
Either way. the
take is that all of the manager autism phase has been collecting is solely to keep pippa from offing herself
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I suspect your joking but being an anti will not help anyone even as a joke.
I had been wondering about the pippa doom posting for a while can we contact the people she looks up to or is aware of and try to spread the word that way?
Moonshine animations off the top of my head is one shes aware of and moon seems to be a fan.
It really is the support/validation network that tends to be the problem giving them a kick in the ass and pointing out they should be helping is usually enough to improve things at least marginally.
She what?!
I was out of the fucking loop, Jesus Christ, what the fuck.
Are we gonna send Pippa to the loony bin for her own good? Can we do that without getting jailed?
She did mention in her AI stream that she'd been asking one of the managers at Phase about recommendations for soap and shampoo...baby steps.
Tenma's Darkest Dungeon thumbnail would be a good candidate for that.
I dont really watch pippa but im really glad to see this wake up call. I think her fans saw her as a godess way too long and are willing to accept too many of her current issues to be polite. She is an important piece in the EN vtuber sphere and it would be really sad to see her definitly stop her activities or worse. I really hope yall ( her fanbase ) can help her in any way to get vack in the right route
I fucking hate Pippa so fucking much! She went through all the trouble to make me care for her just for her to throw her life away! I'm actually going to drop her now because the sooner I rip the Band-Aid off the better it will be for my well being. Mehlo already graduated recently, I don't need this in my life right now! If any of you fuckers think she's on the path to fixing herself and has a good chance of making it @ me so I can know to come back and give her another chance, but as it stands I'm just gonna stick with Wemi.
This is what happens when you don't bully early and often.
Maybe Sleepy should perform a wellness check.
Maybe Sleepy should perform a wellness check.
this but un-ironically
For what it's worth I personally wouldn't see anything wrong if @thhrang broke containment and took the post directly to her alt privately. Even if it takes the usual six to eight working days for the DM to get read it'll put a bit more pressure on her to actually think about it, rather than just skim it and forget about it because it's not what her brainworms want to hear.
That's the root of the issue here - once you're in that depressive loop, seeking things that validate those feelings becomes addictive. She can have a thousand people in her chat or on Twitter showing genuine concern for her wellbeing, but she'll fixate on the one random tourist who finds her drinking ant-water funny because that supports her mental narrative about how her unhealthy lifestyle is "good content".
I think her prioritising her streams over literally anything else in her life is as much a social need as it is a mental distraction. Pippa lives alone and doesn't seem to talk to anyone face-to-face all that often, and from what I can tell, all of her friends are also active streamers who have their own varying schedules to keep and their own demons to face, so they can't keep the feedback loop going the same way her stream chat can. I guarantee you that even if the fish suspended her for a week to tidy her room and see a doctor she'd instead fire up the owl Twitch after a few days because it's a dependency for her at this point.
She really should chase up that volunteering opportunity she was talking about a while back, and if that's fallen through, look into something else. Even just spending an hour a week talking to people about anything other than streaming would do wonders for her, because not only would it give her a sense of purpose and make her feel better mentally, but being around people with more conventional, healthy lifestyles would be a positive influence on her own.
While I do agree that I don't want to see her become a genuine lolcow or especially off herself, somewhere in the back of my brain, but I find it harder and harder to keep giving a shit. She's not stupid, she has the time and resources, the only reason she doesn't do anything is because she doesn't want to. I get that doing anything is extremely hard when your brain is this rotten from depression and whatever cocktail of meds and AI therapy she's been blasting herself with, but if you're willing to sit in your own filth for months, be too lazy to eat fucking food, and chug painkillers like candy for months at a time instead of going to a doctor when your shit is all fucked up, I have next to no sympathy.
At some point she has to realize that even if she had a shitty childhood, even if she actually believes that the world is shit and out to get her specifically, that she has to take responsibility of her own life and do something. If she won't take the first step and refuses to do anything but wallow, nobody can help her, regardless of how hard they try.
We've been watching a person get worse and worse over almost two years and then completely seriously go "Yeah, don't care." when people tell her to please stop killing herself.
So why should I care?
I'm not gonna become a Superduper or anything, I'll still try to tune in to the streams, because I find most of them entertaining, and God knows how many more we're getting, but giving a shit about her as a person and having to listen to cope session > half-hearted promise to improve > no improvement > cope session about how she doesn't actually want to improve > further decline, like twice a stream is so fucking exhausting, I just can't be bothered anymore. The reason this pisses me off so much is because I've been there, I know people who've been there, I know people who are there. The people I know are a casserole of mental illness, familial issues, and poverty, and knowing the shit they struggled with and pushed through to still be here, seeing someone just go "lol don't care won't try" at the slightest obstacle that comes before genuine betterment just drives me up the fucking wall.
Maybe thhrang's just a little retarded but I would think if he could say it to her he already would have and been brushed off.
Personally I find it a little doomposty - she's had spells of similar behavior in the past which she's at least managed if not recovered from. But I do agree it'd be better all around if she just didn't live like that, and I'm a nobody, not even membered to her anymore and probably have the least influence out of her audience of thousands, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Yesterday stream at the start she said she's only eating a couple bites of mac and cheese. Anymore and she'll puke.
If you want to get through to her to fix things in her life, you need to get through to her in her own language; point out a full on personal breakdown is going to negatively impact her content, and end up facilitating a Wings of Redemption type audience that isn't going to care about the work she puts into her streams.
If streaming is what brings her joy, and what she truly loves, she needs to take care of herself and do something about her problems in order to protect and maintain those streams.
While I don't think one unhinged schizo stream is enough to merit the diagnosis some people here are giving, I do think a good intervention and some meaningful life changes are best done early before it actually does reach that point.
If streaming is what brings her joy, and what she truly loves, she needs to take care of herself and do something about her problems in order to protect and maintain those streams.
While I don't think one unhinged schizo stream is enough to merit the diagnosis some people here are giving, I do think a good intervention and some meaningful life changes are best done early before it actually does reach that point.
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