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Idol EN Gen 2 Premier/Debut/Digging thread
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I'm conflicted, the design is kind of cool. But why is the rock and roll one a borderline loli
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Well you see...
Sorry Aviel, but compared to Gen 1, (or more recently, PC Invaders) these designs have been found wanting. This reminds me of that Calli quote, where if it was up to the girls they'd all be petite/loli models.
That being said, I'm still going to tune into all the debuts.
That being said, I'm still going to tune into all the debuts.
Originals for the songs they're releasing linked here:
Roca's song
Poko's song
Kai's song
Momo's song
Coni's song
Poko's song
Kai's song
Momo's song
Coni's song
Based on the strength of the vocals needed to do Backlight correctly, people are floating the guess that Roca is Chapipi
Edit:
People are also guessing Kai is this Peurto Rican VTuber that graduated recently
Someone has also compiled a list of all graduations thatight be relevant in 2023 so far.
list of the graduated/hiatus chuubas post-2023
>Nunki https://twitter.com/nunki_dayo Graduated Febuary 26th
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff Graduated Febuary 29th
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune Graduated March 20th
>TsunariVtuber https://twitter.com/TsunariVtuber Graduated April 2nd
>Elaine https://twitter.com/Elaine_KoMETA Graduated May 8th
>Wabyuu https://twitter.com/waabyuu Graduated May 20th
>Iekushi Chapipi https://twitter.com/IekushiChapipi Hiatus May 25th
>Blair Labri https://twitter.com/BlairLabri_NS Graduated May 26th
>Natsumi Moe https://twitter.com/vtuber_moe Retired May 30th
upcoming graduation/hiatus chuubas
>Miria https://twitter.com/Miria_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Virgil https://twitter.com/Virgil_KoMETA Graduating June 26th
>Ayane Hylo https://twitter.com/ayanehylo Graduating July 16th
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I enjoy lolis, but why are there so many of them? 4/5?
Roca and Kai's designs are quite busy, particularly their clothing. It seemed as if someone was throwing out ideas like "it would be nice to have this, this, this, and that" and there was no one to push back. The person responsible for the heart cutouts in the wings and the randomly placed lightnings should be send to the gulag. Coni's design appear to be also a bit busy, but that's understandable of clown.
With this model, I expect Roca to go full-on mesu/erogaki. It could be interesting.
Only Poko and Momo have nice designs.
I have no clue about the clown.
Roca and Kai's designs are quite busy, particularly their clothing. It seemed as if someone was throwing out ideas like "it would be nice to have this, this, this, and that" and there was no one to push back. The person responsible for the heart cutouts in the wings and the randomly placed lightnings should be send to the gulag. Coni's design appear to be also a bit busy, but that's understandable of clown.
With this model, I expect Roca to go full-on mesu/erogaki. It could be interesting.
Only Poko and Momo have nice designs.
I have no clue about the clown.
With Jews, you snooze.>4 out of 5 are lolis
>One literally named after the no-no square
>NO BROWN GIRLS
Hard pass, I can't believe Aviel waited this long to show off this. Your cool anime intro can't cover up for the fact your designs SUCK
Fuyo streaming and the Gen 2 girls have been in chat for a while.
Can't believe Nolan gets to oshi an entire generation
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Nolan might not be the only interested party:
>Just hear me out: Panko, BUT BLUE
I'm a bit disappointed but of course I'll give them all a chance. Chance of new Oshiina Impossible
Edit: I have become somewhat less disappointed as it seems the purple one may actually be a rocker with a strong voice and the Clown seems like a clown.
^This is pretty attractive TBH. I'm Interested.
E: What are you bonking me for I mean the Rock and Roll theme!
I'm a bit disappointed but of course I'll give them all a chance. Chance of new Oshiina Impossible
Edit: I have become somewhat less disappointed as it seems the purple one may actually be a rocker with a strong voice and the Clown seems like a clown.
I'm conflicted, the design is kind of cool. But why is the rock and roll one a borderline loli
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^This is pretty attractive TBH. I'm Interested.
E: What are you bonking me for I mean the Rock and Roll theme!
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She gets you hard as a rock and you want to roll with her?
Edit: On second thought, I feel bad for posting this. Deleting is haram, so a spoiler it is.
I'm conflicted, the design is kind of cool. But why is the rock and roll one a borderline loli
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After looking at them more I really thing Roca is the one I'm most interested on, I still thing the actual model proportion are weird, but the base design is nice, also I love backlight so if her singing voice is good I would be interested.
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Damn Wednesday I'll be at work might tune in just to listen but not sure
I think the closest one is Kai
More like Walmart Snuffy
Personally Backlight Roca has me interested
And I like Kai's vibe
The other 3 are meh unless they change my mind with debuts
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Talk about mediocre designs or more forgettable I'd say and all of them are lolis, really nigga? This is why you don't give full control of the design to the talents, not everyone is creative enough to come up with something visually pleasing, all their designs are just visual noise, nothing pops out. I feel sorry for the artists who had to put up with that level of bullshit.
There's something I can't quite put my finger on. I'm not really good at articulating it, but I think it's better to just do it with pictures anyway:
I'm trying not to be too much of a PC fag but the top picture looks much more aesthetically pleasing to me. Maybe someone with more design experience can articulate it better than I can, but it just doesn't quite feel like the models from Idol belong together, the styles are too different.
Outside of the octopus girl, it seems like a desperate attempt to standout by being overtly unique but ends up just not belonging in general. Even though I like the design, the late 2010s/early 2020s alt goth design for Roca ends up not being unique because it's so overdone.There's something I can't quite put my finger on. I'm not really good at articulating it, but I think it's better to just do it with pictures anyway:
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I'm trying not to be too much of a PC fag but the top picture looks much more aesthetically pleasing to me. Maybe someone with more design experience can articulate it better than I can, but it just doesn't quite feel like the models from Idol belong together, the styles are too different.
At the end of the day models aren’t the be all end all. Magni and Vesper’s models were clowned on when Tempus debuted and they both turned out to be pretty well liked. The models aren’t bad, just kind of uninspired. A bad model at debut would be something like now defunct Tsunderia’s Orla Gan Ceann debuted with. This one was nightmare fuel for me and really turned me off the talent.
The first thing from the get go is the silhouettes, all of phase's silhouettes are unique enough that you associate them with the character instantly that's why having variety in bodies and statures is a must when you're designing a group of characters, now compare this to idol's. The only one who stands out is the dragon one, the other 4 blend together because they have almost the same body proportions.There's something I can't quite put my finger on. I'm not really good at articulating it, but I think it's better to just do it with pictures anyway:
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I'm trying not to be too much of a PC fag but the top picture looks much more aesthetically pleasing to me. Maybe someone with more design experience can articulate it better than I can, but it just doesn't quite feel like the models from Idol belong together, the styles are too different.
Judging the designs themselves that's a bit more subjective because of personal taste but from a more technical standpoint idol's designs are either overdesigned or basic and some of their color palettes will kill your eyes. The clown is a fucking nightmare to look at if you want to keep your retinas. The dragon's colors are just full on neon light and nothing blends together nicely everything you look at is a highlight. The princes has a decent palette but I would've gone with a brunette instead of a blonde but that's just me, the design is just basic IMO. The goth girl has a good palette for what they were aiming but the design is visual aids, too much at once. The only one that I think is decent enough but loses points by being put with the rest is the racoon but even then the design overall is pretty basic. Some of these are what a child that has started to make their oc would make if they had a professional artist as their slave
I'm not being a phasefag though, you can check any other corpo gen and see some of the things I pointed out, this really feels like it's someone's tumblr OC that they got a pro artist to draw. The model isn't everything but you really need something at least memorable if you want to market your shit. For example just look at erina's design, if you put that thing on a poster people will remember it but if you put the dragon from idol you've seen at least 5 designs like those and one is that redhead from niji from the top of my head.
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