Huh, I guess you are (specifically 16:46). Welcome to the boards. Thanks for sharing your stories. (Still hoping for a bit more evidence though.)
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VT-Rainbow Disintegration Thread [Now the Marina Disintegration Thread]
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Huh, I guess you are (specifically 16:46). Welcome to the boards. Thanks for sharing your stories. (Still hoping for a bit more evidence though.)
TVA is growing so fast. That's 2 vtubers so far in a matter of days.
You know it's one thing to watch someone and get a gut feeling they are a back-stabbing, clout chasing, sex pest. It's a whole other thing to actually get someone to confirm your gut feelings. Jesus Christ.
First I want to say, you have my sympathy for what you've gone through. Based on our discussions with other vTubers this week, you are far from the only person Marina has taken advantage of like this. Thank you for being willing to step forward and share your story. As others have mentioned, any proof you have of these allegations would be amazing. Unfortunately, I've heard from others Marina seems adept at covering their tracks.
If there is anything else you want to share but don't necessarily want it to be public, feel free to message one of us moderators and we can talk any way you want. As well, if you have anyone else who you think would want to share their own experiences, whether in private or in public, please feel free to send them our way or message us their names for referral.
Thank you again, and good luck moving forward.
From what I have been told, the lack of evidence often comes from people getting sweet-talked by Marina and believing that they are a nice person so there isn't any reason to record or screenshot shit. A few weeks or months along the line you realize that you got backstabbed and fucked over and at that point everything and anything you could've screenshotted already happened so you can't go back. At that point often the people just don't even want to deal with it anymore and just want out.
Would be interesting to see if anyone recorded any of those VIP parties or hell even one of the "orgies".
Some people probably have a laundry list of dirt but won't say shit because it's also possible that others have gathered dirt on them. Given how shitty a good number of people are in the Vtuber sphere and how prone they are to backstabbing and stepping on each other for clout, it wouldn't surprise me.
This is one of the major things I'm worried about. There may be relatively innocent person who will end up being complicit in shit simply through their own inaction or ignoring a situation. And those ones who might have plenty to say will be too afraid to come forward since they themselves might take a hit. I'm especially interested in some of the major players from in and around Marina's clique like CottontailVA and Buffpup. God knows who else might be caught up in the web.
Cottontail has physically been in contact with the troon, so you really have to wonder.
Buffpup is the furry who talked about being in a gangbang or orgy, right?
This but edited to reflect the truth: he's an AGP LARPing as a she.
If his dox/power word (dead name) ever gets uncovered, that might bring us (more quickly?) to the feared conclusion regarding this whole groomer revelation.
Man, who would have thought back in February that Pikamee was just the beginning? It got worse. Way worse.
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Marina is a fantastic manipulator, so I'm willing to hear some of them out when this shit goes south; however, given her actions, they will need to provide substantial evidence that they were not involved with a lot of Marina's shady dealings as based on the evidence Im seeing I think they may be involved in something unforgivable. I don't know what degree Marina has, but her former job as a teacher has convinced me that, based on her current actions, she is probably a Pedo. To power level a bit, I know several teachers, and I know that they have training on kids' safety on a regular basis. Given that Marina would have been required to do this training regularly, I do not believe Marina deserves the benefit of the doubt on the discord allegations and that this knowledge excludes her from Hanlon's razor argument that she was just ignorant. I know the training teachers go through, and I know for a fact that if Marina was a teacher, they would know better, and their action of leaving the date ambiguous was intentional, just like breaking the new Twitch TOS. Also, given their fetishes, they get off on power imbalances like master and slave, and combined with her past actions, I think it's not much of a leap to believe that Marina gets off to the idea of the power imbalance between adult and child. Your fears are valid, as it's clear that if Marina goes down for ped shit which is an likely the outcome at this point, I don't think any of Marina's remaining friends can salvage their career.
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Taiga seems to have someone inside the Marina discord feeding him some of the shit that gets posted.
Silvy also edits for Cimrai, given the shit she used to say on stream before rebranding I wonder if they were also part of the same circle.
Silvy also edits for Cimrai, given the shit she used to say on stream before rebranding I wonder if they were also part of the same circle.
I'm unsure what kind of evidence you're looking for. I never recorded the parties before as that was a big no-no at my events. Everything was pretty much done through VRChat through which are essentially live calls. I apologize for that. If you want access to the Discord, this is a temporary link: https://discord.gg/SDkAgHbw
Everything was pretty much done in other peoples DM's, and unfortunately I don't really have the time to hound people down and ask them for the DM proof of her inviting them to her Discord especially as I've been told already that people fear coming forward about her because of her hoard of supporters.
In regards to Lumilive, I don't mind talking about it honestly. I've been fucked over by corpos twice now and I'm pretty over it. Can't talk about the second corp, though, as a lawsuit is currently pending and I don't want to add to the fire as per my lawyers advice. I don't think this thread is for that though haha
The answer is anything. You never know what you may uncover based on seemingly useless pieces of knowledge. By changes, do you know any of the clicks stances on Loli or anything related to ped shit?
No one is going to admit to being pro pedophilia, and they are probably anti loli. Not sure what their stance of loli matters for though. We have a lot of people here who are anti loli, and while I think it's gross, it's not pedophilia.
True, but I'm looking for a pattern of behavior. Peds tend to group up and if one of them is a dumbass and goes to mask off it can lead to other relations. You would be surprised how often obvious shit is just swept under the rug.
Given how Taiga gets called a pedophile because he had commissioned shota art or some shit, I would expect that the people that have that same mentality have stuck with Tits McGee
I agree. I don't think loli matters at all in this conversation. An extremely large portion of the vtuber community (including vtubers themselves) are lolicons or shotacons. Feel free to investigate what you want though. More information is always good.
Well, without any sort of evidence, we just have to take you as your word. You do have some stature in this community (a position and reputation you're putting on the line against Marina being able to provide evidence you're a liar) so that's not entirely worthless, though. But any sort of corroboration, even if it's just the word of someone else in the community who would know these things and also isn't afraid of coming forward, would be useful.
I'm the guy who wrote the OP in our thread on that certain other agency so I know a bit about it, and I certainly want you to avoid legal trouble as much as possible. That said, I hope you're still around if and when the legal issues are over and you can answer our questions on that as well (hopefully you're not bullied into a settlement with a gag order). In both that and Tsunderia's case I felt the worst for the talents who had stopped their indie activity in the months leading up to debuting as a new corpo generation and ended up having nothing to show for it except bad memories.
As for LumiLive, I don't really know enough about it besides that all of its talents quit at once, so I don't even know where to start asking questions. If you don't mind writing a bit, would you be willing to start a new thread on the The Rec Room board (use the blue "Post Thread" button near the upper right) and put your story in a few paragraphs and we can take it from there?
If that's too much writing, you could also just make a stream out of it. Let me know when and I'll be sure to tune in.
Kind of crazy that it took a twitch meltdown to finally break the camels back
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