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RiverBear

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8. Hololive is big in Japan but the real success story is Ironmouse and Filian, hololive has nothing on them.
Legit what does this mean

Is he insinuating that Cover makes less than Ironmouse and Filian? Or is he talking about how Ironmouse and Filian are relatively big despite the low investment, making them a bigger ROI?
 

MerelyTourist

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Legit what does this mean

Is he insinuating that Cover makes less than Ironmouse and Filian? Or is he talking about how Ironmouse and Filian are relatively big despite the low investment, making them a bigger ROI?
Looks like dude never heard about Phase too. You know, the most important EN corpo you can't avoid when doing market research. Or he just jealous of fishman, thus he never mention it.
 

frz

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Legit what does this mean

Is he insinuating that Cover makes less than Ironmouse and Filian? Or is he talking about how Ironmouse and Filian are relatively big despite the low investment, making them a bigger ROI?
1 of these 3 or all of them:

1. Ironmouse is number 1 subscribed twitch streamer and Filian has hundred of millions of views a month. They will become the new focal points of vtubing.
2. Confident that companies like NEXAS can conquer this "moving away from hololive" market that totally isnt saturated as fuck.
3. He hangs out with vshojo manager, merryweather and all the indie pilled people so he formed the opinion that indie/vshojo is the best.

in another part of the doc he also wrote this:
"For example, VShojo—popular even in Japan—does not own the IPs of its talents but operates as an agency focused on sponsorships and merchandise. Similarly, Brave Group’s V4Mirai practices what’s called "Adoption" in the industry, bringing in already active indie talents. Even Hololive’s new group, FLOW GLOW, consists of former AKB members and independent YouTubers, signaling a shift in the industry."

Looks like dude never heard about Phase too. You know, the most important EN corpo you can't avoid when doing market research. Or he just jealous of fishman, thus he never mention it.
He would likely have said the same thing about phase using invaders.
 
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Gravedigger

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Even Hololive’s new group, FLOW GLOW, consists of former AKB members and independent YouTubers, signaling a shift in the industry

Vshojo adopting established talents like Amalee and Hololive hiring talented people that happen to be known publicly previously are NOT the same thing. How much glue does this guy eat for brekfast?
 

RiverBear

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Vshojo adopting established talents like Amalee and Hololive hiring talented people that happen to be known publicly previously are NOT the same thing. How much glue does this guy eat for brekfast?
The funny thing here is NO ONE is supposed to know the FLOW GLOW members are ex-AKB
 

MerelyTourist

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I got to the end of his effortpost.
"I had to hire cripplingly expensive staff in america becasue of Legal Mindset" LIKE WTF DUDE? "And icompletely side with kurosanji on the selengate, fuck this bitch!"
The end is fucking hilarious: "I understand that holo/niji-type corpo model is dead and i need to focus on doing one thing well, thus i will try to do everything at once again. Now i gonna default to void corpo speak buzzords for a while becasue my brain is completely fried. Plz support my new Roblox hustle btw."
 
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frz

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Vshojo adopting established talents like Amalee and Hololive hiring talented people that happen to be known publicly previously are NOT the same thing. How much glue does this guy eat for brekfast?
If I have to defend him. I'd say it is a case of finding evidence for your conclusions. Same thing with police already concluded someone is guilty beforehand and extracting "evidence" during interrogation despite said person are innocent. Wrongful convictions happens all the time because of this. He concluded that Harry is talented and NEXAS could have taken over the world if it's not for those pesky things called "mental health" "money backing" etc.

What he said does come from reality, somewhat. V4Mirai did recruit kou mariya, VShojo does not own talents IP. But the fact that he thinks he can do the same by creating a "vtuber academia" is not.
The funny thing here is NO ONE is supposed to know the FLOW GLOW members are ex-AKB
I honestly think this is not the case. There are enough discussion like this place and people just recognizing them by the voices. People who wants to know knows, and even people who doesn't want to also knows because they made the cardinal sin of seeing a youtube recommendation or opening twitter. The issue is that both of them are not really that popular in the first place. They were failed idols who ended up exiting their careers.

It also shows in the subs number as both Riona & Vivi are the lowest subbed in Flow Glow. Hololive didn't pick them because they were popular idols, banking on the fact that their old audience will follow them. Those audience don't exist and they weren't popular lolw. Also not the first time hololive picked failed ex-idols. Plenty of that in Holo.
 
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NeneLOVE

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For example, VShojo—popular even in Japan
And other lies morons like this dude tell themselves. He hates dramafags but partakes in the "vshojo and indies are the new world order because niji imploded and aqua graduated!" spiel dramakeks pander. What a joke.
 

God's Strongest Wardog

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For example, VShojo—popular even in Japan
>Looks up Vshojo Nova numbers
>MFW :dokibirdWhat:
They are most certainly NOT popular in Japan. Maybe Kson is, due to who she was and the effort she did to land that Yakuza (the game series) gig, but everyone else? ... no. Lmfao. What fucking drugs is this Yamanba on?!
:NOWWELAUGH:
 

RiverBear

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I honest think this is not the case. There are enough discussion like this place and people just recognizing them by the voices. People who wants to know knows, and even people who doesn't want to also knows because they made the cardinal sin of seeing a youtube recommendation or opening twitter. The issue is that both of them are not really that popular in the first place. They were failed idols in all metrics.
Again, this is a case of "if you know you know" or "If you want to know, you will know"

Cover itself is not out here advertising "HEY GUYS, FOLLOW THESE NEW TALENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE EX-AKB IDOLS", compared to say VShojo or even Phase/V4Mirai outright saying 'These are popular Vtubers you already liked, follow them and follow us because they are now contracted under us"
 

Superduper Samurai

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Nexas appears to be back already


The sales pitch is "NEXAS Creative Hub is a next-generation "Creative Studio" and "VTuber Marketing Agency" dedicated to empowering creators and brands. From illustration & character design to brand campaigns & influencer marketing, we connect anime culture influencers, VTubers, and digital creators with opportunities worldwide."

So it appears that whoever got the NEXAS name is using it to kickstart some sort of vtuber consulting/advertising agency. The website seems to use the Nexas models
 

Murrayしないで

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The website seems to use the Nexas models

…Which they might not have the rights to anymore? I don't know, maybe they buyout paperwork had an asterisk or something…

Armcha1r is going to do an unscheduled stream tomorrow going over the doc.

 
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