Nov 30 2024 - Ceres Fauna Graduates From Hololive Due To Disagreements With Management

[Twin Adder]

I think the sad / funny thing is unlike all the Ex Nijis and Vesper, Fauna is good at hiding her power level so no, you will never get Lemonleaf spilling the beans or even giving the slightest hints at confirming / debunking all your speculation and rrats.

 

[El Rrata]

Something came to my mind.

I wonder if Fauna's disagreement with management has something to do with traveling. I have talked about this in Chloe's thread, but I don't think Fauna has traveled for work in a while? She was the only EN who didn't travel to Japan for 5th Fes (no other talents talked about meeting up with her, and she was streaming right until a day(?) before the concert). She wasn't in NY for BD either. I think her last confirmed travel was when she traveled for her 3D showcase? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Maybe management now mandates that traveling is mandatory for concerts and she couldn't accept that.

Edit:

My point is that Fauna somehow didn't need to travel for 5th Fes. How she performed then? No idea, but that's a separate discussion.
But they may have want her to travel for any future concert.

Pretty sure it has nothing to do with that at all and it is just management being useless. Not sure why people keep going back to the idol shit, when she already said it wasn't that.

Sounds like they are shuffling some shit manager(s) between the talents who is(are) useless at their job, given the stories from IRyS, Fauna, and Kronii. At the very least, IRyS has outright stated that even if they requested a new manager, they would be rejected. Being stuck with a shit manager, along with the normal corpo crap, and whatever annoying shit they put in the way for streaming, seems to be a culmination of frustration.

Seems more to me that the issue isn't that things changed, it is that thea multitude of things Fauna wanted to change haven't.

 

[Silcron]

Thank Azehara's video with Proctor that I found this site.

I was trying to read up about this on other places and it's all about "Listen to your oshi (who is doing damage control for the company, as it's normal).

I haven't watched Fauna from that long but man this one has hit. At least it seems she's going to have an easy restart as Lemonleaf, she's on 263k subs as of now. I only hope she can change models after a while. Fauna's model is fantastic, Lemonleaf seems like another dime a dozen short haired maid.

At least the PL bullshit is dying more and more. I understand not mentioning or making allusions in live chat or superchats. That puts the talent in an incredibly awkward position. However, maintining it amongst the fandom just seems like a horrible recipe for any corpo talent (or talent going corpo) missing on hard work.

Anyway, nice to meet all of you. Gonna drink now.

 

[White Stone]

I'm not sure if this was just a coincidence or it was intentional.

I remember when they were reacting to EnReco clips, Fauna was barely in it. The entire FaunaMart arc was like one of the more memorable moments from EnReco so it was weird that they didn't include any clips about it.

 

[SZ 109]

Very funny, Youtube algorithm:

Sovereignty and Blood Forever - Ceres Fauna (AI Cover) (Jul 25, 2024, 4 months before the announcement)

Sovereignty and blood forever
Our future's in our hands

Goodbye is the Saddest Song - Ceres Fauna (AI Cover) (Dec 1, 2024, 1 day after the announcement)

Goodbye is the saddest song
That love can never sing
And hello is the only way
That winter turns to spring

 

[Negzana]

I will miss stuff like this.

 

[Kanna's Glowiest Assistant]

I will miss stuff like this.

Certified moment

 

[Grass4Cats]

The entire FaunaMart arc was like one of the more memorable moments from EnReco so it was weird that they didn't include any clips about it.

A question, did Nana11 got clips shown? If not, then it's possible they avoid it for safety measures.

 

[Wixoyu]

A question, did Nana11 got clips shown? If not, then it's possible they avoid it for safety measures.

No. They only briefly mentioned both stores at the end of the build area fly over.

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Ally and Sally's last idol group broke up over creative differences, do you think they are the cause of all these problems?

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Ally and Sally's last idol group broke up over creative differences, do you think they are the cause of all these problems?

Imagine Elira, except there's two of them.

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Just to add to my self created rrat, if you look at the last several posts in the group's Instagram Ally and Sally aren't in the photos.

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[Dispirited Helmet]

Either someone botted Fauna's subscriber count or her community organized a bunch of people to subscribe over Christmas (probably the former). She wasn't on track to get a million subs before graduating when I was on her channel a few days ago, but as of this morning it looks like she's only 4k away:

This just happened, as Playboard hasn't fully caught up yet:

Yesterday had a 6k spike, and apparently she's gotten another 10k in the hours since then. Unless her Discord organized something or she asked people to push for a million subs during her unarchived 3D Karaoke, it looks like someone decided to bot her. May have also been the Shorts videos she put out over Christmas, but I highly doubt 3 shorts gets you 20k subs in 3 days.

If this is botted, whoever did it is a fucking tool. It cheapens her achievements with her channel, ruins the chance we had to do it for real, and Youtube may take it away before she graduates anyways

 

[VSoyBoy]

Either someone botted Fauna's subscriber count or her community organized a bunch of people to subscribe over Christmas (probably the former). She wasn't on track to get a million subs before graduating when I was on her channel a few days ago, but as of this morning it looks like she's only 4k away:

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This just happened, as Playboard hasn't fully caught up yet:

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Yesterday had a 6k spike, and apparently she's gotten another 10k in the hours since then. Unless her Discord organized something or she asked people to push for a million subs during her unarchived 3D Karaoke, it looks like someone decided to bot her. May have also been the Shorts videos she put out over Christmas, but I highly doubt 3 shorts gets you 20k subs in 3 days.

If this is botted, whoever did it is a fucking tool. It cheapens her achievements with her channel, ruins the chance we had to do it for real, and Youtube may take it away before she graduates anyways

/r/kurosanji was saying it was some fan discord that decided to rally JP fans to get her to 1M.

 

[Dispirited Helmet]

/r/kurosanji was saying it was some fan discord that decided to rally JP fans to get her to 1M.

I can't confirm that as I refuse to use Discord, but if it's JP-niki I guess I could see it, especially since Nene did visit the World Tree yesterday:



I'm taking it with a grain of salt for now though.

 

[Shuba]

Either someone botted Fauna's subscriber count or her community organized a bunch of people to subscribe over Christmas (probably the former). She wasn't on track to get a million subs before graduating when I was on her channel a few days ago, but as of this morning it looks like she's only 4k away:

View attachment 86234

This just happened, as Playboard hasn't fully caught up yet:

View attachment 86235

Yesterday had a 6k spike, and apparently she's gotten another 10k in the hours since then. Unless her Discord organized something or she asked people to push for a million subs during her unarchived 3D Karaoke, it looks like someone decided to bot her. May have also been the Shorts videos she put out over Christmas, but I highly doubt 3 shorts gets you 20k subs in 3 days.

If this is botted, whoever did it is a fucking tool. It cheapens her achievements with her channel, ruins the chance we had to do it for real, and Youtube may take it away before she graduates anyways

/r/kurosanji was saying it was some fan discord that decided to rally JP fans to get her to 1M.

Tweets like these to the JP fans have gotten decent traction:




Watame also asked for people to sub to her during their collab yesterday

 

[Willemshaven]

Watame reads a superchat from a Sapling.

SpaceAce said:
___
Ahhh! Thank you so much for translating this! My Japanese is weak so it is often challenging for me to follow along with the JP talents in real time. It makes me so happy to see that she read my message and felt supported by Saplings! (and ope, just seeing my SapPling typo now lol) If you are a fellow Sapling [and even if you're not] checkout Watame's Girigiri warukanai, Watame~!/Watame Did Borderline Nothing Wrong~! videos. Fauna either shows up directly or is referenced in a handful of them. English translations are included in all of videos for the series too. You can tell she genuinely cares about Fauna and had fun collaborating with her. While Fauna may be returning to tending to nature full time soon, we can keep her legacy going by creating a welcoming and supportive environment for views and Holomems alike.

Some moments from the WataFau stream, including the section where Watame says to subscribe to Fauna.

 

[All-Usernames]

Posting here as well for posterity

 

[ValkyrieAce]

Calli also directly asked Deadbeats to subscribe to Fauna to get her to a million, in addition to JP members. I've also seen people popping in and out of fan discords begging people to subscribe.

Not sure how I feel about it. Yeah, it's a nice farewell present, but after watching Bae on the grind to a million for nearly a year, this seems like pity. If Fauna wanted it, she could have done it herself a while ago. Hell, Fuwamoco just went "We want a million subs, wuffians! uwu!" and got like 50K in a week.

 

[Dispirited Helmet]

Calli also directly asked Deadbeats to subscribe to Fauna to get her to a million, in addition to JP members. I've also seen people popping in and out of fan discords begging people to subscribe.

Not sure how I feel about it. Yeah, it's a nice farewell present, but after watching Bae on the grind to a million for nearly a year, this seems like pity. If Fauna wanted it, she could have done it herself a while ago. Hell, Fuwamoco just went "We want a million subs, wuffians! uwu!" and got like 50K in a week.

If Fauna weren't graduating she would have had it on her own easily, probably before the end of February. She was on the grind almost as much as Bae and routinely has fantastic view counts and retention. Subs don't actually mean much in the grand scheme of things and often end up at the whim of the algorithm, this is just meant to let her know that she's loved before she leaves.

Watame reads a superchat from a Sapling.



Some moments from the WataFau stream, including the section where Watame says to subscribe to Fauna.

Ah, that explains it then. Man I Love Watame (MILW)