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Nov 30 2024 - Ceres Fauna Graduates From Hololive Due To Disagreements With Management

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Fauna announced her streams will remain up and her members streams will become public.

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More important info so this isn't a completely useless post.

She has 3 drinks in front of her ice water, iced latte, and hot tea.
 

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This explains everything that has happened within the last 24 hours
(disclaimer, i have no idea if this was an honest goof, i cant find any of these tweets)

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This explains everything that has happened within the last 24 hours
(disclaimer, i have no idea if this was an honest goof, i cant find any of these tweets)

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Looks fake: why would Chris be responding to a two years old tweet?

Hmm, on second thought, that would not be the weirdest thing he's ever done...
 

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Bae said that they've known for a while
 

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Bae said that they've known for a while
Kiara said that her twitter reaction was because she didn't remember the day it was scheduled for so it took her by surprise, not because she wasn't informed up front.
 

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Looks fake: why would Chris be responding to a two years old tweet?

Hmm, on second thought, that would not be the weirdest thing he's ever done...
Look at the dates, he was otherwise occupied for most of that time. Besides taking 2 years to finish a single art piece isn't exactly odd for him.

However that art is far too good to be his.
 

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Some crossposts.



Paraphrase of Shiori's comments:
Shiori is talking about "recent things" on this stream. Key points:
-She's happy to have a manager she can easily bully. (reading between the lines here it sounded like she was saying she was happy to have a different manager than Fauna).
-She's her manager's "third child".
-Idol activities are not her top priority, nor are they forced on her by the company.
-She has no plans to move to Japan.
-Overall her goal is to do whatever she feels like/"entertain myself".



Speculation: Grimmi tweeted what seems like a reaction to Fauna's graduation, then deleted it. "Hate when that bad feeling you get way back turns out to be right..."
So Grimmi ended up deleting this tweet she made yesterday after the Fauna announcement
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I originally posted this tweet just as a reaction to the news but now that's she's deleted this and rereading nows brings up the question:
Did she actually turn down a spot at cover instead of anycolor?

For context, Grimmi had announced 2024-02-05 that she intended to graduate 2024-03-03, but cancelled her graduation 2024-02-14. Note Shondo's reaction, most strikingly "grimmi is 100,000 times too good for _____". At the time, most assumed that Grimmi had turned down a spot from Anycolor, as the Black Screen Stream happened on 2024-02-14. However, Grimmi claimed in her stream on that day that it was unrelated to events "today".

Note also that 3/4 of Justice graduated their PLs on 2024-03-10, and that there are four of them instead of five.

IF true, the next speculative step is that Grimmi (and Shondo) got their cold feet from Fauna. If that is true, it follows that Fauna was already badly strained no later than February. But note that Fauna had been talking about future content as late as the end of August.
 
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The more time since the announcement the more this graduation hurts for me. Like Coco's graduation was so early into me watching vtubers it felt unique and optimistic even if sad, and after she left I soon got people like Fauna to fill the void. It's just too soon, not her first. She was one of the few ENs I would reliably watched, loved her sense of humor, loved the dying fox noises that were her karaokes, sometimes considered buying her merch to support her. I won't get to see her at Holofes either. Just makes me sad.
 

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Grimmi (and Shondo) got their cold feet from Fauna. If that is true, it follows that Fauna was already badly strained no later than February. But note that Fauna had been talking about future content as late as the end of August.
Bro really wrote a fanfic about how Fauna became Shondo's best friend again after all the shit that happened and risk getting a Mel termination and share company stuffs/innerworking with the number 2? menhera on the vtubing sphere who has demonstrated negative ability to keep a secret and terminally online.
Mel even got terminated 1 month before your great timeline, on January.

Hey I can make up shit too
Dooby collabed with Filian once, they must have been best friend, she must have told Filian, who then told Silvervale who have now made up with Ironmouse. Then Ironmouse told FalseEyeD, who then advise Grimmy to ungraduate.
Fauna and Shondo were back on speaking terms as far back as 2022, so the first part already happened. And sure, that doesn't mean they have to be particularly close now, and people should be careful what they share regardless. Yet it was a common wish for Kiara to be honest with Mint about both the good and bad of Holo, back when Mint first graduated. If that can be said within reason, so can this.
yeah mint is the same as #2 menhera on the planet
You can trust mint with a secret. I wouldn't trust shondo.
 
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Bro really wrote a fanfic about how Fauna became Shondo's best friend again after all the shit that happened and risk getting a Mel termination and share company stuffs/innerworking with the number 2? menhera on the vtubing sphere who has demonstrated negative ability to keep a secret and terminally online.
Mel even got terminated 1 month before your great timeline, on January.

Hey I can make up shit too
Dooby collabed with Filian once, they must have been best friend, she must have told Filian, who then told Silvervale who have now made up with Ironmouse. Then Ironmouse told FalseEyeD, who then advise Grimmy to ungraduate.
Fauna and Shondo were back on speaking terms as far back as 2022, so the first part already happened. And sure, that doesn't mean they have to be particularly close now, and people should be careful what they share regardless. Yet it was a common wish for Kiara to be honest with Mint about both the good and bad of Holo, back when Mint first graduated. If that can be said within reason, so can this.
 

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Some crossposts.



Paraphrase of Shiori's comments:




Speculation: Grimmi tweeted what seems like a reaction to Fauna's graduation, then deleted it. "Hate when that bad feeling you get way back turns out to be right..."


For context, Grimmi had announced 2024-02-05 that she intended to graduate 2024-03-03, but cancelled her graduation 2024-02-14. Note Shondo's reaction, most strikingly "grimmi is 100,000 times too good for _____". At the time, most assumed that Grimmi had turned down a spot from Anycolor, as the Black Screen Stream happened on 2024-02-14. However, Grimmi claimed in her stream on that day that it was unrelated to events "today".

Note also that 3/4 of Justice graduated their PLs on 2024-03-10, and that there are four of them instead of five.

IF true, the next speculative step is that Grimmi (and Shondo) got their cold feet from Fauna. If that is true, it follows that Fauna was already badly strained no later than February. But note that Fauna had been talking about future content as late as the end of August.
I think its interesting, but the Niji rrat has some cheese too. Niji's Denuath wave debuted in late May, same month as their first wave, Lazulight, both Pomu and Elira's PLs retired as late as March to debut on May, so Grimmi having the same timeframe wouldnt be that much of a stretch. If the Denuath PLs also retired on March then it would be a pattern. I think ill go check. But i dont think many of their PLs are known besides /vt/ trying to groom twisty on hers

Grimmi ungraduating on the 15th of Feb also would give Niji half a month or change to find another debutee that was open to fucking off by early March or later

Edit: on a cursory glance the most i can find of a Denuath PL "retiring" was Twisty DFE-ing by February of this year judging by these Hololist comments
Other Niji talents like Aster iirc did similar things, but Twisty is controversial so it could've been unrelated
 
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Advanced vagueposting - compromise two different companies at the same time. Her deciding not to join may not even be related to graduation already being set in stone, just overall trend of where things are going, which didn't get any better in the next half a year and finally pulling a trigger
 

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New rrat: Fauna is a actually really bitchy and asked unrealistic requests that Cover couldn't accommodate. Soft spoken white woman went Karen (derogatory).

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