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  • Smelliest007

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    Translation/Summary of Shion's Graduation Announcement
  • Shuba

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    She's graduating, April 26th. Difference in direction being used as the reason again. Her mental was doing incredibly bad and she thought of graduating multiple times over the years. She had hoped that her hiatuses would help but this was the decision she came to. She understands that she has to follow guidelines and rules when you're in a company, but it can be difficult to accept when new rules get added along the way. Simply, it isn't what she originally signed up for. Also said not to go off rumors and just trust in her words.
    Expanding on this after watching again.

    Everything that Shion said in her graduation announcement:

    Her heart hurt to announce it but she's graduating on April 26th due to a difference in direction with the company.

    This is something she felt like doing for years and it's been building up. Her mental was at such a bad state before her hiatus last year, she was genuinely concerned for her life (basically implying she heavily considered suicide). Her mental health and physical health were both doing terrible and she had to visit the hospital multiple times. Her hiatus was meant to help with this, as she didn't want to end up hating this hobby. But even now, she still has to go to the hospital and it's likely that her mental will never be completely fixed.

    However, one thing she's sure of after coming back from her hiatus is that she loves this. If this was her from long ago, she wouldn't have even gone to the hospital and would have just given up on trying to fix herself (again, heavy suicide implications). But because of all the love and support from the fans, she wanted to try harder at taking care of herself last year. She was able to think of the internet as a great place and she wanted to keep smiling with all the love from her fans. This is not a lie.

    Of course, it's right to follow the guidelines and rules of a company you're a part of. But as the years passed, she had to do things that she didn't have to back then or things that she wasn't really ready for. This is where she thinks the gap between her and the company began. This is the main reason for her graduation. She was concerned about announcing it right before 6th Fes, but she wanted everyone to know that this was her final Fes.

    She knows "difference in direction" has been said a ton, but that's really all this is and she apologizes that she can't say more. She plans to go into more detail at a later stream. There will be a ton of rumors and speculation around but please don't get tricked by that and just trust in her words. This is truly how it is, truly what she thinks and she hopes this won't be used maliciously out of context. There's still some time left so she wants to make a lot of memories with everyone. She'll do her best in 6th fes and she hopes we'll keep supporting her until the end.
     
    Promise Nendos
  • tarkanoltr

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    If only Goodsnile worked quicker, we could've had all of Promise:


    Justice plushies:
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    Huge Amount of Figurine Announcements
  • WaWa

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    Updates on the Playmatea posable model kits.



    Figma Lui and Gamers announced!



    Pop Up Parade updates.




    Gen 0 Hello! GoodSmile figures announced!


    Miko scale figure update and Fubuki, Mio, Suisei and AZKi announced.




    Update on Nendoroids.





    Wedding Dress Style Ichiban Kuji line up revealed.
     
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    Even more Figurine Announcements
  • WaWa

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    New scale figures of Fubuki and Mio coming from Design Coco!





    PalVerse figures





    Prototype of the Figma Fubuki.



    Want to let the public know you are irresponsible with money? GoodSmile Company has you covered!
     
    Street Fighter 6 Collabo
  • Shuba

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    There's gonna be a collab cafe with Street Fighter 6 :shubaIapprob:



    They got everyone's mains down correctly too!
    Botan Bison
    Pekora Honda
    Towa Ed
    Laplus Blanca
    Aki Guile
    Subaru Kimberly
    Korone Akuma
    Suisei Juri
     
    Iroha going on break until roughly May
  • Willemshaven

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    Joined:  Sep 23, 2023
    I don't think it was ever brought up in detail here. I looked into it a while ago after realizing that she's been like this for a long time and that it was way more than just a sore throat problem. Kinda forgot to post about it though so thanks for the reminder.

    Basically, Iroha was having the usual streamer throat problems throughout the fall. Too much talking/singing/etc so she cut back on her activities a bit. As she was getting better from that, the psychogenic aphonia literally hit her out of nowhere one day. She said she went to answer her doorbell for food delivery and suddenly, she just couldn't talk. No words would come out no matter how hard she tried. There were a lot of comments attributing it to Chloe graduating or working too much, but she herself said it was nothing in specific, just a bunch of stress that seemed to all hit her at once.

    She did a few silent streams where she'd write out her words so she could update everyone. After talking with her doctor and management though, she decided that she wanted to continue streaming while recovering. Just small streams every so often so she doesn't stress herself out. She eventually got her voice back and began talking again around Christmas, which is when she did her comeback stream. Currently, she's at the point where she can do okay if she's reading a script or some lyrics, but having to speak on her own is where she can really struggle.

    Being in the Minecraft server basically 24/7 has helped her with talking, but there are moments where it definitely gets overwhelming. I gotta shout out AZKi here because she's a damn sweetheart who's been hanging out with Gozaru all the time in Minecraft. There have been a few times where Iroha starts stuttering hard and can't finish her sentences, so AZKi steps in and helps her out. It's been a great way for her to get better without feeling pressured.

    Honestly, the fact that she's talking like that in that clip you posted is a great sign of improvement from December, when she couldn't even get a sound out. Not to mention that was part of an entire 5-hour stream, which she was able to do without too many issues. Even her doctor was surprised at how fast she was recovering. It seems like it's gonna take a while longer, but I'm sure Gozaru will be talking regularly within the next few months. She's still doing dance/singing practice and will still be performing in 6th fes, which shows just how hard she's working at it. It fucking sucks but Gozaru's doing her best and deserves a bunch of love and support.

    Some clips, including a wholesome one where she talks about Suisei giving her a confidence boost after her self-esteem understandably tanked from having to deal with this:



    Iroha is going on a well-deserved break from streaming until around May to focus on recovering from psychogenic aphonia. [Stream announcing it]

    Google TL of the image:
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    ■ Notice of suspension of some activities

    To everyone,

    Thank you for your continued support.

    As I have previously announced, since last year I have been struggling to speak due to psychogenic aphonia, but thanks to everyone's support I have been able to get to this point, including performing at the holoX 3rd anniversary live concert and participating in the 6th Fes.
    Thank you very much.

    Now that various events have calmed down, I have consulted with my doctor and company and will be suspending some of my activities for a while in order to focus on my recovery.

    Content to refrain from activities
    ・Live broadcasts (including solo and collaboration)
    ・SNS posts (excluding announcements and advertisements)
    ・Operation using some voices

    Content to continue
    ・Membership wallpaper posting
    ・Posting pre-recorded content
    ・Shorts video submission
    ・Dance and other activities within reasonable limits in consultation with a doctor

    Regarding the suspension of some of the activities mentioned above, we are currently planning to continue this until around May, however, we will make a decision regarding any activities thereafter, giving priority to my health.

    During the break from live streaming, I plan to post shorts and other videos, so I hope you will check them out!
    We look forward to your comments and shorts requests!

    From Gozaru
     
    HoloTCG EN edition release date New
  • Hff201

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    I guess Cover are ready to print even more money soon.


    Archive
     
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    NijiHolo Interleague Teams & Information New
  • VSoyBoy

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    For the holo/niji baseball collab, here are the teams in Japanese:


    Pekora - Subaru, Marine, Suisei, Fubuki, Mio, Flare, Noel, Kanade, Fuwawa, Mococo, Aki, Iroha, Kaela, Moona, Vivi
    Kanata - Lamy, Nene, Okayu, Luna, Botan, Polka, Miko, Haachama, Anya, Ririka, Raden, Biboo, Gigi, Su

    This is what the stadium looks like, so it'll be interesting to see what they'll do with Gigi, Vivi and Su who have yet to receive their 3D models:
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    Further information in my post in the general thread:
    NijiHolo Interleague information:

    First up, check out this delightfully photoshopped illustration of what the spectator experience will be like. The display boxes showing who is standing on the bases is cool, but most of the attention will be on the big screens showing the actual game.
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    These are the seats and what you'll have to pay for them. During the stream they went through each category and gave an example of the view you can be expecting.
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    The seats go from 5000JPY (34USD) to 14000JPY (95USD) for the major categories with some special, more expensive seating categories including a lounge for 10 people costing 550000JPY (3700USD). The more expensive categories include varying levels of merchandise and other special services.
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    Merch will obviously be available, including team shirts, jerseys, caps, towels and clappers.

    The schedule for the games:
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    And the teams themselves, drafted during todays streams are (excuse the google translated pictures, real names in the spoiler below):
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    Pekora Academy:
    Oozora Subaru
    Houshou Marine
    Hoshimachi Suisei
    Shirakami Fubuki
    Ookami Mio
    Shiranui Flare
    Shirogane Noel
    Otonose Kanade
    Fuwawa Abyssgard
    Mococo Abyssgard

    Aki Rosenthal
    Kazama Iroha
    Kaela Kovalskia
    Moona Hoshinova
    Kikirara Vivi

    Tenkai Gakuen:
    Yukihana Lamy
    Momosuzu Nene
    Nekomata Okayu
    Himemori Luna
    Shishiro Botan
    Omaru Polka
    Sakura Miko
    Akai Haato
    Anya Melfissa
    Ichijou Ririka
    Juufuutei Raden
    Pavolia Reine
    Koseki Bijou
    Gigi Murin

    Mizumiya Suu

    Milky Way Academy:
    Sasaki Saku
    Higuchi Kaede
    Furen E Lustario
    Fumi
    Yamagami Kurata
    Igarashi Rika
    Ars Almal
    Saotome Berry
    Amamiya Kokoro
    Kotoka Torahime
    Hayase Sou
    Elira Pendora
    Hakase Fuyuki
    Shishido Akari
    Hyakumantenbara Salome

    Helesta Girls Academy:
    Shiina Yuiika
    Tsukino Mito
    Yang Nari
    Ange Katrina
    Inui Toko
    Nui Sociere
    Onomachi Haruka
    Takamiya Rion
    Meloco Kyoran
    Tamanoi Nana
    Shioriha Ruri
    Ishigami Nozomi
    Ponto Nei
    Yorumi Rena
    Sou Sango
    Obvious observation: No men, even on the Niji side.

    And finally, there will be a special mini concert featuring the two chairmen and the four managers.


    The two streams by the chairmen, most of the contents are the same, just the draft part is unique for each:



    @The Proctor, you wanted to be reminded.

    From the Hololive subreddit. This guy is genuine and should probably face jail time for this comment, as it has actually caused me physical pain.
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    2nd hololive GAMERS fes. announcement New
  • Shuba

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    Another holofes announced:

    I'm glad Mio gets to have her revenge after what happened last year.
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    And the guest list:
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    I'd like to think Subaru will be feeling better about this one as well. Should be a good time.
     
    Ao takes a break for her mental health New
  • NeneLOVE

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    Okayu's 2nd sololive announcement New
  • Willemshaven

    Outlasted the Chinese Community Sinicization Group
    True & Honest Holofan
    Joined:  Sep 23, 2023
    During the forum downtime, Okayu announced her second sololive Personya Respect. It will be on May 28th in Pia Arena MM in Yokohama. [Website]
    [Archive]

    PR Times article with an easier to read overview.

    Before that, Fubuki, Mio, and Subaru participated in a knowledge test about Okayu.


    Okayu had revealed her new outfit.

     
    ENigmatic Recollection summary site New
  • Willemshaven

    Outlasted the Chinese Community Sinicization Group
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    Joined:  Sep 23, 2023
    A few fans made a really well-made website recapping events in ENigmatic Recollection. It will be updated as more chapters take place.

    Playlist of highlights mainly about the Cerulian side.


    The FaunaMart movie.
     
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  • NeneLOVE

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    RRAT PEST CONTROL
    This post is a remnant from the original thread OP suggestion, removed because it wasn't gonna stop any newfriend or raider from doing their deed. I have threadmarked it in order to coalesce clarifications about commonly spread rrats.
    "The shareholders are in control of the company, and thus responsible for (insert bad thing) happening to the company"
    FALSE. Shareholders of Cover Corp each own a miniscule amount of the currently distributed shares, with the largest ones not even owning 10%. Yagoo and other execs currently own the vast majority of the shares in circulation. Furthermore, these shares do not even give those who hold them voting power in the company, only financial reports and attendance at meetings where they can SUGGEST things, transcripts of these meetings are regularly published in english if you want to read them.

    "Cover went public because of corpo greed"
    FALSE. Cover went public due to their VC funding rounds done in 2017, 2018 and 2020, to allow their private investors to cash out.1742872898057.png

    "Blackrock is gonna make Cover go woke"

    FALSE. Blackrock owns 0.5% of Cover stock as of the writing of this OP, and as said before, owning any amount of stock does not give them voting privileges or control over the company. Furthermore, many investment funds like Blackrock routinely invest in hundreds of companies simply out of procedure, this does not mean Blackrock or any other company is planning a takeover of Cover.

    "Shareholders are stealing money from the talents"
    FALSE. Cover's shareholders do not get dividends or any direct financial gain from the company, they simply play with each other's money. Any revenue generated by Cover is kept by the company.

    "The talents claimed the company's direction has changed! Some of them even chalked it up to Cover going public!"
    SPECULATION. Talents claiming the company's direction "has changed" could be anything, there is little to no proof this is referring to going public. As for the few talents like Lamy or Towa that have directly mentioned Cover "becoming publicly traded" as a "change" have most likely done so as a way to express the notion of the company's growth and transformation into a true corporation, with IPO in Japan being seen as "the thing big corpos do" and a sign of corporate success. This point is not always negative, and both talents cited used it in a contemplative, neutral way, to reflect on how the company is now versus how it was when they joined.

    Shareholders have a very bad rep in most circles (with good reason), but their effect on Cover's decision making and course is minimal at best. The company's actions are their own and should not be chalked up to some convenient boogieman.

    "Too many talents have cited "differences in direction", this must mean the company is in shambles"
    SPECULATION. "Differences in direction" is a stock response that seems to have been recently implemented for graduations as a form of PR. There has never been an official answer from any talent as to what this means and it is very likely to be a catch-all term which includes many different talent reasonings. As always, neither the talent nor the company will ever tell you the full story as to why the split happened.

    "Loosing A-chan is causing the bleeding/Her leaving was a sign of things to come"
    SPECULATION. A-chan's most likely reason for leaving was to take care of a family member, a common thing in Japan's aging society. Corroborating this was her 3-month leave immediately previous to her retirement, which again, was for the same stated reason. There is no information of her influence or position within the company, relating to company direction or the treatment talents got, only that she encouraged a couple of the talents to not quit in the past, something that is not unique to her.

    "Kneeling to China again is causing talents to leave"
    SPECULATION. Literally no talent has ever referenced this as reasoning for their departure. Hololive's return to china has been mostly driven by Holo ID and been minimal. The most likely reason for Cover's return to Bilibili is to gain chinese gacha game perms.

    "Too many events/travelling are causing talents to leave"
    SPECULATION. Literally no talent has ever referenced this as reasoning for their departure. Hololive is widely known among Vtubers as an Idol-like agency, focused on music production and events, it is very unlikely anyone would apply and get accepted knowing this.

    "Hololive has changed for the worse in some way"
    SPECULATION/SUBJECTIVE. There is no concrete information out there on the inner workings of Hololive Productions or Cover Corp, everything you may hear online is purely speculative or made up entirely. It is however undeniable that they have changed in scope, size and operations.

    When Cover started they had 2 employees and the company was mainly in the business of experimental VR and AR tech. The early years from Sora's debut to Gen 3 were remarkably rudimentary and amateurish as many talents have talked about, ranging from Korone's nightmare of a debut, to Gen 1 literally hiring someone who leaked talent info, to Gen 2 being given an Iphone and simply told to "stream" without any kind of training or even knowing who their genmates were. This was not just because Hololive was new and small, but also because the entire industry was and nobody really knew what worked best or what was off-limits.

    After 2020 and the boom, Holo found themselves as the fastest growing Vtuber company EVER, holding some of the most valuable IPs in the industry and constantly driving their foot into PR nightmares due to them still being very few people behind the scenes. The years since have seen the company become exponentially more complex to handle this growth and change to become a lot more professional and strict, partly due to the desire to not repeat the mistakes of the past.

    These changes may be the reason some talents do not enjoy working in the company anymore, we do not know for certain, and everyone is entitled to preferring the way things used to be, but the life cycle of companies simply leads to more bureaucracy as they grow, specially Japanese companies. This growth does have a positive side, as it allows for bigger opportunities and more stability for the talents in exchange for some of their freedoms. It allows for things like fes to be better than ever as opposed to the first fes, which old fans may remember actually went down live, which the technical staff had to scramble to fix.

    "The company takes too much money"
    SPECULATION. The revenue share between the talents and Cover has never been made public, the only info we have is passing claims by some talents from years ago and notions that some revenue streams have better cuts than others. What IS known is that Cover does not usually pay for the talent's personal projects, but they do allow the talent to borrow money on a zero interest loan from the company.

    "Cover is stupid for caring about game/music perms, my favorite corpo/streamer doesn't care and they're fine"
    FALSE. Cover cares about perms because they are a Japanese company based in Tokyo and are thus subject to the intricacies and general draconian nature of Japan's copyright legislation, which does not recognize the concept of fair use.

    Your favorite streamer ignores copyright because they are either 1. Based in a country that recognizes fair use, like the United States or 2. An individual. Individuals are rarely if ever targeted by rights holders because it is simply too costly and tedious to sue every single infringing person, companies are much bigger targets, and have much bigger pockets which can be plundered by litigious individuals or other companies.

    In fact, Cover's fear of copyright takedowns is well earned, they used to not ask for perms to stream games until they were hit with the "Copyright apocalypse" of 2020, where HUNDREDS of VODs were made private and in some cases like Subaru's channel, deleted altogether. Where Mio's channel was almost DELETED by Capcom,
    something they literally admitted to doing on purpose to teach Cover a lesson.

    The matter of Cover's expediency when handling perms is another issue altogether and generally subjective.

    "Getting into Hololive means you will be famous regardless"

    SOPHISTRY. While this claim is technically true, getting into Hololive in the first place is not easy.

    "Cover didn't pay artists and they got slapped by the government"
    MISCONCEPTION. Cover requested unpaid art revisions on art they did pay for, which is a sadly common practice among Japanese corpos. The Japanese govt organization which called out Cover was looking to implement new regulation to end the practice, and they didn't "call out" Cover, they actually notified Cover of the new regulation and Cover paid their dues in full, which the governmental agency then used as an example of a company infringing, AND THEN FIXING, the issue. The entire situation had already been resolved by the time it went public.

    This is corroborated by the fact that Cover released an announcement talking about it at the exact same time as the government, which indicates that they already knew this was happening and contrary to rumors they were not in fact investigated in secret and "caught in the act".

    It needs to be said that clarifying these things is NOT apologism, it is not meant to inform your opinion on the company or paint them in a better light than they deserve. It is simply here to put an end to pointless timeloops based on literal false info and to add nuance to speculation. Furthermore I will CLEARLY STATE that It is not wrong to speculate, given that Cover is often very secretive and people have no other option, but it is also important to remember that speculation does not equal truth or fact, and any number of alternative explanations can be given as to why something is.

    Tl;dr: Do not blindly believe people online, look for primary sources, do your own research and always look for nuance in any discussion.
     
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    Mumei Announcement Stream. New
  • MostlyALurker777

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    Welp...


    Edit: Looks like chat is disabled for the stream too, sooooo yeah...
     
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    Mumei Graduation Notice New
  • Cubanodun

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    Kiara Members Discussion Recap New
  • SpringKusa

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    Bro just drops that ominously with no context lol, if she's dropping hints then get an archive, member streams can be shared if they contribute to conversations.
    Next time I vague post for fun I will include a disclaimer

    Disclaimer this is from memory:

    • She talked to Fauna and Ame very recently
      • She was chatting with Ame during backstage at Fes, then ran over to Calli and they sent a selfie together to her
    • She once again says that there are many different things that Management could improve on, and that the issues they have are different for each girl are different
      • The fix for one girls gripes could inconvenience another one or not help her at all, there is no 1-fits all solution
      • thats why changes have to be slow and put in with consideration
    • She says that she once again considered graduation not that long ago (implied to be Winter 24/25 in January or February)
      • She can't guarantee what happens and what life throws at her, so she can't promise that she will still be here in 2 or 3 years, she just doesn't know
      • She has no plans to leave yet
      • She can promise that KFP won't lose her in 2025 at least
    • She dislikes the way graduations are always so vague
      • She doesn't like to lie or to keep those who support her in the dark (she will probably be not subtle if its really a management issue)
      • So if she ever was to leave, there will be hints (it will be very obvious)
    • (I am not taking Kiaras graduation baiting here all that serious, she always seems to think about graduation during her winter depression bouts and she seems to think that Hololive will either fire her ass or that she will not last another yeas since 2021. I swear, that I don't know if I can promise 2 or more years of this, I don't know if I can take it, she said that same stuff back in 2022 and 2023)
    • She had a big long rant about how Management dropped the ball heavily on Holotori
      • Says that she had big plans for holotori and was really happy when they were finally recognised as a real idol unit by management and that management took care of Holotori Dance
      • But since then, not much happened
      • She has been trying to get a new song going for the past 2 years but just doesn't work out because of management
      • Holotori has a responsible creative director or something like that Kiara and the others pitch ideas or so to, and he then goes with those to other managers before they can do anything
      • Somewhere along the way, the new Holotori projects all die in cold hell of middle management
      • Kiara has already given up on ever getting a Sololive or a 2nd 3D outfit
        • but she hoped that maybe by leveraging Holotori as a group they all might get special Holotori idol uniforms or something or get to do a concert, but that all never happened as well
      • One day the director said that he has a new roadmap thing for Holotori in the works, he just has to iron it out with the other management but he never got back her with that, despite Kiara poking him for it every other week or so
      • Slowly she felt really time pressure mounting to really put something out with holotori, but management still didnt get moving
      • Ever since Mumei announced it internally Kiara has been upping the pressure and yet, nobody else seems to feel that pressure
      • She didnt really specify if management ghosted her or just hold her off with cookie cutter replies, but the gist is that Holotori, with management support could have been much more and now with Mumei leaving Kiaras vision for her own idol sub group will never be realised, no matter how much she pushed
    • She also had a lengthy talk about her depression
      • Currently her depression seems to be on the more severe side
        • She can barely get motivated to do everyday things like cooking, take a shower, clean up or just shop for groceries
        • She barely leaves her house anymore
        • Thats why she is very very proud of herself to even go to Yoga class every week
        • She jumps in head first into Holo Homework so that she can distract herself from how shitty she feels about everything else in her life
        • She wants to go back to see her shrink again soon, considering getting anti-depressants from her
        • She does have irl and Holo friends but at the end, her only real support system seems to be her cats
      • She probably had depression since way before she joined Holo and has let it fester untreated in the back for way too long
        • She always tries to overcome those things on her own in the past
          • She thinks that is what has made her strong in the past
      • Despite all that, she still feels better now than she did in late 23/ early 24 when she considered graduating the last time
    • Her summer months seem really packed
    • She has to be in America for 2 different occasions that are only 1 week apart
      • She will try to do an America vacation with someone (potentially Ame, maybe someone else) during that 1 week
      • One of those is very very likely the next full EN concert
    • She is sad she missed her change to go on a Maldives trip this year
      • She wanted to go with Kronii but she got cucked by Kaela
        • Btw, Kronii is still blue balling Kiara on a collab Kronii herself proposed to Kiara, Kiara got back to her on it and since thing nothing
    • She will not bother with VR chat collabs anymore, too much work. These days there are people in management who know their way around VR chat, she leaves it up to them
    • She did not prepare anything special for Easter, but well her Covid compensation 3D Live will release around that time
      • Reminder:
        • That 3D Live was supposed to be recorded in last December but they were unable to due to various visa issues
        • Every single EN talent was supposed to be part of the show (yes, all, even the shark said yes)
      • Easter is about a week before Mumei leaves, so she still might be in Kiaras show

    This stream began really depressing and with Kiara really down in the dumps. But the mood got better as it went on. I still think she will cuddle a few more times with her cats and then she will overcome this too. Kiara is not as weak as she might look, I trust her still. She just really needed that outlet and vent because her chat is more of a psychologist to her than her shrink will ever be.
     
    Summary of Moona's 1st album stream New
  • Willemshaven

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    Joined:  Sep 23, 2023
    Translated summary of Moona's stream about her first album "PANDORA". [Shop link]

    Famas_1234 said (formatting modified):
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    Overview​

    As you know, Moona releases her first album "PANDORA", which is also the first album from HoloID. She explained the details of each song on stream listed in the album, including the new and existing songs. The album consists of 3 new songs and 7 existing songs. She mentioned those new songs were teased in her YT Shorts, then she played those one stream only with instrumentals and a glimpse of the lyrics. At the later parts of the stream, she got testimonies from members, guests, and producers who had already heard the full version of the new songs. Furthermore, there were call-ins and interview from HoloID members, notably Ollie, Risu, and Kobo. According to the stream, the album will be released digitally on 2025-04-12 00.00 JST.


    Track Details​

    1. Lasting Freedom (new)​

    • Length: 2:27
    • Lyrics: mimiko, mpi
    • Composition: Kai Shiono
    • Arrangement: Kai Shiono
    Moona's commentary:
    • She thought this track felt like a dungeon music. The chat said it was epic at the first glance and she agreed on it.
    • She emphasized everyone to pay attention to the lyrics (later).

    2. 100% (feat. Nerissa Ravencroft)​

    • Length: 4:06
    • Lyrics: Funk Uchino
    • Composition: Funk Uchino, Saito Ryo, Grace Tone
    • Arrangement: Saito Ryo
    Moona's commentary:
    • When she heard the demo, she thought the song was not intended to be performed solo because the lyrics were rapid, so she needed another person to fill. Nerissa was the choice and it fits with her. She couldn't be more happier then she looked forward to collaborate with her again.

    3. Distortion (new)​

    • Length: 2:17
    • Lyrics: monii
    • Composition: monii, Johnny R
    • Arrangement: Johnny R, monii, Ari
    Moona's commentary:
    • She's excited for this one because it's a banger (TL note: even when she sang some bits during the play).
    • At first listen, she was already in love for the demo. She felt grateful to the creators especially monii and Johnny. She could have contacted with them sooner (TL note: maybe it's the whole Asteroid Music Team?)
    • She mentioned she loved ballad, but in this track she realized that rock, especially alt rock, was also her power.
    • During the lyrics section she sang, she tried to sing with a spicy style but at the same time she was embarassed to do so.
    • This song made her felt like a villain.

    4. High Tide (original version)​

    • Length: 3:23
    • Lyrics: ZSunder
    • Composition: ZSunder
    • Arrangement: ZSunder
    Moona's Commentary:
    • She stated there were pronounciation errors in this track e.g. "my reign" pronounced "my rinse" (TL: there was Orbiture EP/remastered version in her channel)
    • First showcase was in 3rd fes. People thought at that time she was covering a song until the song release
    • "This album is from Moonafic", no Multiverse because that tracks belongs to Holo-n

    5. Who’s Toxic? It’s You!​

    • Length: 3:07
    • Lyrics: Arina Ephipania, Ari Renaldi
    • Composition: Ari Renaldi
    • Arrangement: Ari Renaldi
    Moona's Commentary:
    • At the fes (TL: 5th fes), she was having fun that she was jumping around. She enjoyed it as long as it fit.

    6. Perisai Jitu​

    • Length: 3:22
    • Lyrics: Donne Maula
    • Composition: Ari Renaldi
    • Arrangement: Ari Renaldi
    Moona's Commentary:
    • She wanted the "hahaha" with the fans to make it chaotic, but she had no time, so she recorded those parts herself with different tones.

    7. Charade​

    • Length: 3:15
    • Lyrics: mimiko, mpi
    • Composition: Jun Suyama
    • Arrangement: Jun Suyama
    Moona's Commentary:
    • Although there are few explanations, she mentioned about subtlety with piano instrument

    8. Nightmare​

    • Length: 3:36
    • Lyrics: Yuka Goto, Kris Roche
    • Composition: WON AGAIN, Yuka Goto
    • Arrangement: WON AGAIN
    Moona's Commentary:
    • The banger songs for the album ended here.
    • She thought this one was good for the concert with the chants from the audience.

    9. Taut Hati​

    • Length: 3:40
    • Lyrics: Donne Maula
    • Composition: Ari Renaldi
    • Arrangement: Ari Renaldi
    Moona's Commentary:
    • This song was good and fit for reunion.
    • She wanted some members sang along especially ID members together.
    • She mentioned she couldn't whistle, at least not perfect (TL note: but she could in the stream?).

    10. Ai no Chiisana Uta (original version)​

    • Length: 5:18
    • Lyrics: Moona Hoshinova, Hiraide Kensuke, Okumura Akira
    • Composition: Okumura Akira
    • Arrangement: Okumura Akira
    Moona's Commentary:
    • (TL note: there is an Orbiture EP/remastered version)
    • She sang this while sitting

    Testimonies​

    There are testimonies by members, guests, and producers with their favorites of 3 new songs
    1. Tsunomaki Watame: those three are good ones. Lasting freedom was a chill song, and Charade being the ballad one. She liked Distortion the most with low and high notes.
    2. FLOW GLOW: Riona liked Lasting Freedom, Vivi liked the ballad one (Charade), Chihaya liked the rock one (Distortion), Niko and Su liked Distortion and both mentioned this song could be fit for a dance choreography challenge.
    3. Pia Meraleo (JKT48V): Lasting Freedom sounded like when you listened Moona's song for the first time. It's worth listening and it's a good leading song. Distortion was a showcase of her raw vocals.
    4. Arina Ephipania (mocca, one of Moona's song producers): The album had a range of emotions, especially at 3 new songs. Additionally, when she wrote the song for Moona, she tried to avoid people who had the trait. At that time, Arina also struggled writing the lyrics.
    Other testimonies including Reine, Zeta, and Kaela (voiced) in shorter format.


    Call-ins and Interviews​

    This section was conducted with interview style by Ollie, Risu, and Kobo, although it's mostly from Ollie. Risu had the entire notes for each songs, and Kobo joined a bit later. At that time of streaming, Risu was also streaming so she had to cut short later.
    • Risu had some points for those new songs. Her personal picks: Lasting Freedom > Charade > Distortion. Lasting Freedom's first notes were a bit catchy. Her taste was into majestic stuffs so she liked the whole song even into the deeper details. She even emphasized the lyrics were impactful to make people pay attention to it. For Charade, the music was mostly piano but it's impactful with interesting notes. She felt this can be fit into an insert song but also a good fit for a sleeping song. Distortion presented a distortion so you needed good earphones. However, as she knew Moona's style, she stated this song was "very Moona" with talking and singing style in the song. As she heard, the actual vocal only presented at the refrain part whereas the rest were just talking. Moona responded it's true that she liked the talking part. At this point, the chat teased Risu as if she was a music critic.
    • Ollie wasn't moved on with Multiverse and Nightmare so she was not on the mood on those three songs (of course in positive note, and she mentioned that it's an achievement for Moona). When Ollie was down, she kept repeating Multiverse to raise her "girlboss aura".
    • Moona said those three songs were recorded in one week, but it's actually two days in a row for vocal recording. The recording was in Japan and she mentioned it's so different their usual in-house stuffs. The studio was too good for the quality alone, including how the studio handled unmixed vocals.
    • Kobo joined in at the middle. Risu mentioned that this album was produced over the top with good quality. Moona agreed and it did not need to revise again. As a sendoff, Risu promoted her album and she left for her ongoing stream.
    • Kobo learned much from Moona and Kobo was there to ask something. Moona advised her to make use of Yagoopay wisely, and ask M-chan if there was a time to produce music as they have short time schedule.

    Here's the transcript I've interpreted after the previous segments. Some transcription are heavily paraphrased:
    K: "Is Lasting Freedom a bit 'emo'?"
    M: "Not really, but rather the Charade one. As you can see, it has Evanescence vibes."
    O: "Why do you name it PANDORA?"
    M: "There are range of emotions in the whole album, as if there are chaos and hope."
    O: "What is the concept of the album art?"
    M: "It uses the Perisai Jitu as reference. As you see, the outfit is basically the same as in the MV."
    K: "How to produce songs consistently?" (Kobo also talked about finding genre)
    M: "Find the references that clicks. But to be honest, I don't know about my genre consistently."
    K: "Wait really? I thought everything is consistent?"
    M: "To be honest I was exploring genres that time, but then I found my genre at the middle of the journey".
    K: "Oh I like the Lasting Freedom. It's like a psycopath. Why is the piano melody a bit 'emo' 2019-ish?"
    M: "It's because the reference is still the same as I mentioned it before e.g. Evanescence, Avril, Paramore, Muse, etc.. So it's like this album has been conceptualized."
    O: "Is there a chance to make an MV for these three songs?"
    M: "Yes, probably Lasting Freedom since it's a leading song. Actually, It's on the way, but not as intensive because the my budget is already spent on the album"

    Then Moona talked about Kobo. She thought Kobo had more potential, even more that Kobo could compose and had better connection with other producers.
    K: "No I can't."
    O&M: "Wait what?"
    M: "Alright, what's your favorite song by the way?"
    K: "Mantra Hujan."
    M: "Why don't you produce with the same style? Additionally, you can compose with your skillful instrumentals. You can do that easier as I myself don't use instruments. Or how about this, which cover songs do you like the most? With that, it can be a stepping stone for making a fitting genre for you."
    K: "Thanks Moona for the insight."
    M: "I hope you can follow (into the new album for Kobo)."

    After this, Kobo left the call, but Ollie continued the conversation.
    O: "So what's next?"
    M: "I haven't made a song concept yet, and to be honest, I have to save as I've reached the Yagoopay limit (laughs). So with this, I have to find another way. Besides saving, I'm learning music composing. In terms of that, it's still basic, so I'm not really confident with that."
    O: "Since when and how far you've learned?"
    M: "I've been learning the piano part for a bit, but a bit tricky with drums."
    O: "Again, why PANDORA?"
    M: "Wait, are we going to talk this a bit deeper? Alright, this album is about the journey of emotions, between happy and depressed, handling a good or bad environment, and more. With that, we have to express what's inside you and that's normal for given situation."

    The last song in recording was Distortion. The rest of the transcription is about personal Ollie to Moona interview. Be caution that the longer I can write, the more inaccurate I'm transcribing.
    O: "Have you experienced the difference between your last song and you first one (Ai no Chiisana Uta)?"
    M: "My first song was recorded in-house with old condenser USB mic and unconditioned room (no soundproof). Did you know that this song was collaborated for FREE?"
    O: "Wait what?"
    M: "Just lyrics and instrumental, not the full production (and MV). Actually, we (with Okumura, the producer) were talking about songs that themed around food. It was almost agreed for both sides, but we decided to be more serious. Another one was when Okumura heard my voice, Okumura complimented her voice and decided to collaborate. I felt grateful and that was my stepping stone to music industry."
    O: "Yeah, it's different back then. However, from room recording into actual production, that's the milestone, isn't it?"
    M: "I was thinking this one would take 5-10 years, but it's actually faster than I thought. At least I'm very happy and grateful for that. To think about it, this wouldn't be existed without Hololive staffs, fans, and supporters. Ai no Chiisana Uta and High Tide were a blast. If both wouldn't do like this, I think I can only do cover songs."
    O: "Do you know Yagoo was so happy about you? He liked High Tide and he tweeted about it during fes. It was when I interviewed him with Kobo."
    M: "Oh really? I didn't know about that."
    O: "Besides finance, what's the most difficult about songs?"
    M: "Finding a fitting producer. There was one time I switched producer. A declined demo is fine in music industry, but for personal stuffs, we need to find a fitting one. The second one is finding animator that fits our budget (laughs)."
    O: "Sometimes our budget is at the limit."
    M: "Oh do you know which one is also difficult? Making Indonesian songs. Just a fun fact, my Indonesian songs were produced by same person (TL Note: Ari Renaldi) and that's also hard. I liked Indonesian songs which can't be grasped by other Japanese producers which I can't describe it."
    O: "Oh yeah! I talked to Farhan Sarasin (TL Note: Indonesian producer, known for "Gate Open: START!", "id:entity voices" and "Dramatic XViltration") that JP songs use specific kind of chord progression. But here, Perisai Jitu, that's so Indonesian that it can be heard in our usual local radios."
    M: "I would want to collaborate with other producers, but the budget and licensing are a bit difficult and not so flexible unlike in Japan until now."
    O: "What are your best memories about this album?"
    M: "Taut Hati was the most enjoyable for me. I'm singing while having fun. I actually contributed to the lyrics while uncredited. It's just fun, especially with Indonesian language. We can be flexible and expressive, given that we use that language everyday."
    O: "Speaking of Taut Hati, which one did you contribute?"
    M: "The first lines in the 2nd verse"
    O: "Wow, it's nice that you can do that."
    M: "Actually, I have many lyric drafts that left unused until something comes. Usually when I was at the moment, I wrote the lyrics based on that situation."
    O: "That's cool! Can't wait those lyrics to be used later!"
    O: "Back to the first song. Did you think the food songs can be realized."
    M: "I couldn't. I couldn't write the lyrics that are direct and to the point. Sometimes it's embarassing for me (laughs)."
    O: "How about using other JP/EN lyrics?"
    M: "They knew about how to do that because they are experienced at those stuffs. Imagine I perform those kind of thing in Holofes, wouldn't that be funny? (laughs)"

    As a conclusion, Moona said "hire me. I have 10 songs! That's my CV right there! Anyway, buy the album."

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