Hololive General

[NeneLOVE]

well, I will be very surprised if this kiara members will not lead to increased doom and shitposting

Bro just drops that ominously with no context lol, if she's dropping hints then get an archive, member streams can be shared if they contribute to conversations.

 

[Smelliest007]

Bro just drops that ominously with no context lol, if she's dropping hints then get an archive, member streams can be shared if they contribute to conversations.

Vagueposting is an epidemic in these times.

 

[ZerroDefex]

Will we finally get a hint to what she looks like IRL?

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Seems more and more that the game doesn't let you make faces that aren't at least vaguely Asian.

Kiara's thread on /vt/ is making it sound like nothing but more complaining about medication and her bad back.

PSA: exercise your back and core muscles. Squats, hyperextensions, deadlifts, Jefferson curls, sit-ups and all that. I swear the number of people who complain about bad backs that weren't construction workers or in an actual accident have in common that they avoided doing any heavy lifting their whole lives then wonder why their spine stiffens up from sitting in a chair 12 hours a day. I've seen even 70+ year olds rehab their backs in surprisingly short time just by getting in the gym and doing some lifting.

 

[KazooKing]

I'll try to write more thoughts on the stream once I can catch up on the segments I had to miss, but there's basically two new pieces of info that Kiara gave out:

1. She's very angry at management for neglecting HoloTori
2. When she ever graduates, she won't vaguepost about her reason for leaving and instead she'll drop multiple hints that can be put together into what her true reasoning is

 

[Phantasm]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgnfPPb9JI3e9A4cXHnWbyg/community?lb=UgkxsH0NFdXjJgPokUXfhPwWKSahclXXD-eA

Shiori's collab with Biboo is being pushed back to March 31st because of dizzyness and vertigo

 

[Superduper Samurai]

When she ever graduates, she won't vaguepost about her reason for leaving and instead she'll drop multiple hints that can be put together into what her true reasoning is

This just sounds like vaugeposting with another name

 

[Aka Split]

Bro just drops that ominously with no context lol, if she's dropping hints then get an archive, member streams can be shared if they contribute to conversations.

I'm, uhhhh, I'm pretty sure there's also an exception that if someone happens to sing mumei and A New Start behind members, it's ok to post that too, you know, in case that ever happens...

 

[Koronesuki]

When she ever graduates, she won't vaguepost about her reason for leaving and instead she'll drop multiple hints that can be put together into what her true reasoning is

When Kiara graduates, it'll be because Cover is shutting down Hololive or because she's gotten too old to be physically able to perform. I don't think she's going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[KazooKing]

This just sounds like vaugeposting with another name

Fair enough, I left out some context, in that the reasons given for graduating (i.e. disagreements with management) are intentionally vague, presumably because that way the internet can't dogpile on Cover, demanding something concrete to be "fixed". That won't happen with Kiara, so if someone follows her content around graduation, they'll be able to pinpoint the exact reason in spite of the PR statements, so rrats will die or grow more potent based on what she'll hint at.

 

[NeneLOVE]

I'll try to write more thoughts on the stream once I can catch up on the segments I had to miss, but there's basically two new pieces of info that Kiara gave out:

1. She's very angry at management for neglecting HoloTori
2. When she ever graduates, she won't vaguepost about her reason for leaving and instead she'll drop multiple hints that can be put together into what her true reasoning is

What does she mean by "neglecting holotori?" why not "neglecting mumei" specifically? What does she want them to do? Give them standalone events or smth?

Fair enough, I left out some context, in that the reasons given for graduating (i.e. disagreements with management) are intentionally vague, presumably because that way the internet can't dogpile on Cover, demanding something concrete to be "fixed". That won't happen with Kiara, so if someone follows her content around graduation, they'll be able to pinpoint the exact reason in spite of the PR statements, so rrats will die or grow more potent based on what she'll hint at.

Sounds like she hasn't considered the possibility that the internet could also turn against her in such a case, like what happened with Rushia after the dumb bitch started giving out them deets to everyone and anyone. The "not saying anything" benefits the talent more than management, management will always be blamed by default, giving out discrete reasons only leads to people questioning the talent's involvement too.

 

[Smelliest007]

Seems more and more that the game doesn't let you make faces that aren't at least vaguely Asian.

Yeah.

 

[ZerroDefex]

And now from out of nowhere the Twitter algo is suggesting that I follow shachi, which is weird as I didn't even have Mumei followed.

 

[NeneLOVE]

And now from out of nowhere the Twitter algo is suggesting that I follow shachi, which is weird as I didn't even have Mumei followed.

Probably thousands of people linking "Hololive" and "Mumei" with her because PL! PL! PL! PL!
The algo doesn't only analyze your data but also compares to the data of other similar users.

 

[ZerroDefex]

Probably thousands of people linking "Hololive" and "Mumei" with her because PL! PL! PL! PL!
The algo doesn't only analyze your data but also compares to the data of other similar users.

Yes but rather creepy that it suggested it to me today when I hadn't even been searching for Mumei there or commenting on posts about her.

 

[Negronald Trump]

Apparently this is how I find out they're actually making the Zelda movie and it's not a joke

Let me tell ya, they'll cast Rachel Zegler as Zelda and Dylan Mulvaney as Link, that'll make bank.

I was about to post something similar. To me it seems like Cover's vaunted HR kinda messed up with Council. Not in getting talented and cute young women, Council/Promise is probably one of my favorite gen of universally likable talents. But maybe temperament, personality, work expectations and stage in their life.

For example I used to work in a quasi government agency setting and noticed they would often decline to hire young and ambitious applicants, or those from high paying industries, like oil and gas or tech startups, in favor of the more agreeable stable older ones. Those types tend to bail fast or are not suited to the plodding nature of government corpo work. For Holo, each talent leaving is a huge scandal and damage to the brand so they need to minimize that. In fact I'd prioritize it.

We'll see if HR learned, and Advent and Justice are better fits. By now all the applicants know about the large "homework" load, constant flights to Japan, and all the idol stuff. All the new girls seem to be grinders and many experienced hardships, failures and long periods of no success.

Tl:dr hire more hags

Let me tell ya, ya hit the nail on its head. Justice and Advent are fucking grinders and seems to embody the current Cover mantra, same with ReGloss and FlowGlow. I'm just expecting more OGs to leave because that is the nature of the industry.

 

[SpringKusa]

Bro just drops that ominously with no context lol, if she's dropping hints then get an archive, member streams can be shared if they contribute to conversations.

Next time I vague post for fun I will include a disclaimer

Disclaimer this is from memory:

• She talked to Fauna and Ame very recently
  • She was chatting with Ame during backstage at Fes, then ran over to Calli and they sent a selfie together to her
• She once again says that there are many different things that Management could improve on, and that the issues they have are different for each girl are different
  • The fix for one girls gripes could inconvenience another one or not help her at all, there is no 1-fits all solution
  • thats why changes have to be slow and put in with consideration
• She says that she once again considered graduation not that long ago (implied to be Winter 24/25 in January or February)
  • She can't guarantee what happens and what life throws at her, so she can't promise that she will still be here in 2 or 3 years, she just doesn't know
  • She has no plans to leave yet
  • She can promise that KFP won't lose her in 2025 at least
• She dislikes the way graduations are always so vague
  • She doesn't like to lie or to keep those who support her in the dark (she will probably be not subtle if its really a management issue)
  • So if she ever was to leave, there will be hints (it will be very obvious)
• (I am not taking Kiaras graduation baiting here all that serious, she always seems to think about graduation during her winter depression bouts and she seems to think that Hololive will either fire her ass or that she will not last another yeas since 2021. I swear, that I don't know if I can promise 2 or more years of this, I don't know if I can take it, she said that same stuff back in 2022 and 2023)
• She had a big long rant about how Management dropped the ball heavily on Holotori
  • Says that she had big plans for holotori and was really happy when they were finally recognised as a real idol unit by management and that management took care of Holotori Dance
  • But since then, not much happened
  • She has been trying to get a new song going for the past 2 years but just doesn't work out because of management
  • Holotori has a responsible creative director or something like that Kiara and the others pitch ideas or so to, and he then goes with those to other managers before they can do anything
  • Somewhere along the way, the new Holotori projects all die in cold hell of middle management
  • Kiara has already given up on ever getting a Sololive or a 2nd 3D outfit
    • but she hoped that maybe by leveraging Holotori as a group they all might get special Holotori idol uniforms or something or get to do a concert, but that all never happened as well
  • One day the director said that he has a new roadmap thing for Holotori in the works, he just has to iron it out with the other management but he never got back her with that, despite Kiara poking him for it every other week or so
  • Slowly she felt really time pressure mounting to really put something out with holotori, but management still didnt get moving
  • Ever since Mumei announced it internally Kiara has been upping the pressure and yet, nobody else seems to feel that pressure
  • She didnt really specify if management ghosted her or just hold her off with cookie cutter replies, but the gist is that Holotori, with management support could have been much more and now with Mumei leaving Kiaras vision for her own idol sub group will never be realised, no matter how much she pushed
• She also had a lengthy talk about her depression
  • Currently her depression seems to be on the more severe side
    • She can barely get motivated to do everyday things like cooking, take a shower, clean up or just shop for groceries
    • She barely leaves her house anymore
    • Thats why she is very very proud of herself to even go to Yoga class every week
    • She jumps in head first into Holo Homework so that she can distract herself from how shitty she feels about everything else in her life
    • She wants to go back to see her shrink again soon, considering getting anti-depressants from her
    • She does have irl and Holo friends but at the end, her only real support system seems to be her cats
  • She probably had depression since way before she joined Holo and has let it fester untreated in the back for way too long
    • She always tries to overcome those things on her own in the past
      • She thinks that is what has made her strong in the past
  • Despite all that, she still feels better now than she did in late 23/ early 24 when she considered graduating the last time
• Her summer months seem really packed
• She has to be in America for 2 different occasions that are only 1 week apart
  • She will try to do an America vacation with someone (potentially Ame, maybe someone else) during that 1 week
  • One of those is very very likely the next full EN concert
• She is sad she missed her change to go on a Maldives trip this year
  • She wanted to go with Kronii but she got cucked by Kaela
    • Btw, Kronii is still blue balling Kiara on a collab Kronii herself proposed to Kiara, Kiara got back to her on it and since thing nothing
• She will not bother with VR chat collabs anymore, too much work. These days there are people in management who know their way around VR chat, she leaves it up to them
• She did not prepare anything special for Easter, but well her Covid compensation 3D Live will release around that time
  • Reminder:
    • That 3D Live was supposed to be recorded in last December but they were unable to due to various visa issues
    • Every single EN talent was supposed to be part of the show (yes, all, even the shark said yes)
  • Easter is about a week before Mumei leaves, so she still might be in Kiaras show

This stream began really depressing and with Kiara really down in the dumps. But the mood got better as it went on. I still think she will cuddle a few more times with her cats and then she will overcome this too. Kiara is not as weak as she might look, I trust her still. She just really needed that outlet and vent because her chat is more of a psychologist to her than her shrink will ever be.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Gura is just mickey mouse, she's kept around for the prestige. And to live rent free in the heads of gorillions and make them seethe.

On the occasions she does stream, she's still absolutely the best in the business.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Apparently this is how I find out they're actually making the Zelda movie and it's not a joke

it's been confirmed since the Mario movie was. but you probably forgot since that's literally the only news we had on it Avi is a good producer (as much as you can tell from his work anyway)

but why the fuck would you get The Maze Runner guy (Wes Ball) is Sony really going to tank the movie because of years of petty rivalry between the two?

 

[Sankisei]

Next time I vague post for fun I will include a disclaimer

Disclaimer this is from memory:

• She talked to Fauna and Ame very recently
  • She was chatting with Ame during backstage at Fes, then ran over to Calli and they sent a selfie together to her
• She once again says that there are many different things that Management could improve on, and that the issues they have are different for each girl are different
  • The fix for one girls gripes could inconvenience another one or not help her at all, there is no 1-fits all solution
  • thats why changes have to be slow and put in with consideration
• She says that she once again considered graduation not that long ago (implied to be Winter 24/25 in January or February)
  • She can't guarantee what happens and what life throws at her, so she can't promise that she will still be here in 2 or 3 years, she just doesn't know
  • She has no plans to leave yet
  • She can promise that KFP won't lose her in 2025 at least
• She dislikes the way graduations are always so vague
  • She doesn't like to lie or to keep those who support her in the dark (she will probably be not subtle if its really a management issue)
  • So if she ever was to leave, there will be hints (it will be very obvious)
• (I am not taking Kiaras graduation baiting here all that serious, she always seems to think about graduation during her winter depression bouts and she seems to think that Hololive will either fire her ass or that she will not last another yeas since 2021. I swear, that I don't know if I can promise 2 or more years of this, I don't know if I can take it, she said that same stuff back in 2022 and 2023)
• She had a big long rant about how Management dropped the ball heavily on Holotori
  • Says that she had big plans for holotori and was really happy when they were finally recognised as a real idol unit by management and that management took care of Holotori Dance
  • But since then, not much happened
  • She has been trying to get a new song going for the past 2 years but just doesn't work out because of management
  • Holotori has a responsible creative director or something like that Kiara and the others pitch ideas or so to, and he then goes with those to other managers before they can do anything
  • Somewhere along the way, the new Holotori projects all die in cold hell of middle management
  • Kiara has already given up on ever getting a Sololive or a 2nd 3D outfit
    • but she hoped that maybe by leveraging Holotori as a group they all might get special Holotori idol uniforms or something or get to do a concert, but that all never happened as well
  • One day the director said that he has a new roadmap thing for Holotori in the works, he just has to iron it out with the other management but he never got back her with that, despite Kiara poking him for it every other week or so
  • Slowly she felt really time pressure mounting to really put something out with holotori, but management still didnt get moving
  • Ever since Mumei announced it internally Kiara has been upping the pressure and yet, nobody else seems to feel that pressure
  • She didnt really specify if management ghosted her or just hold her off with cookie cutter replies, but the gist is that Holotori, with management support could have been much more and now with Mumei leaving Kiaras vision for her own idol sub group will never be realised, no matter how much she pushed
• She also had a lengthy talk about her depression
  • Currently her depression seems to be on the more severe side
    • She can barely get motivated to do everyday things like cooking, take a shower, clean up or just shop for groceries
    • She barely leaves her house anymore
    • Thats why she is very very proud of herself to even go to Yoga class every week
    • She jumps in head first into Holo Homework so that she can distract herself from how shitty she feels about everything else in her life
    • She wants to go back to see her shrink again soon, considering getting anti-depressants from her
    • She does have irl and Holo friends but at the end, her only real support system seems to be her cats
  • She probably had depression since way before she joined Holo and has let it fester untreated in the back for way too long
    • She always tries to overcome those things on her own in the past
      • She thinks that is what has made her strong in the past
  • Despite all that, she still feels better now than she did in late 23/ early 24 when she considered graduating the last time
• Her summer months seem really packed
• She has to be in America for 2 different occasions that are only 1 week apart
  • She will try to do an America vacation with someone (potentially Ame, maybe someone else) during that 1 week
  • One of those is very very likely the next full EN concert
• She is sad she missed her change to go on a Maldives trip this year
  • She wanted to go with Kronii but she got cucked by Kaela
    • Btw, Kronii is still blue balling Kiara on a collab Kronii herself proposed to Kiara, Kiara got back to her on it and since thing nothing
• She will not bother with VR chat collabs anymore, too much work. These days there are people in management who know their way around VR chat, she leaves it up to them
• She did not prepare anything special for Easter, but well her Covid compensation 3D Live will release around that time
  • Reminder:
    • That 3D Live was supposed to be recorded in last December but they were unable to due to various visa issues
    • Every single EN talent was supposed to be part of the show (yes, all, even the shark said yes)
  • Easter is about a week before Mumei leaves, so she still might be in Kiaras show

This stream began really depressing and with Kiara really down in the dumps. But the mood got better as it went on. I still think she will cuddle a few more times with her cats and then she will overcome this too. Kiara is not as weak as she might look, I trust her still. She just really needed that outlet and vent because her chat is more of a psychologist to her than her shrink will ever be.

I love how blunt Kiara is
In Holo there are only a few girls like her so i always like how direct she is

 

[BioBreak]

CC giving in to her schizo ideas with this inZOI stream.