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NeneLOVE

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I think the industry is still too young to know what a "normal" rate of turnover looks like, especially since a large chunk of its formative years took place in a period with near-captive audiences and talents potentially having a harder-than-usual time finding employment that wasn't based on sitting in front of your computer at home, of which vtubing at the top levels is basically the most lucrative option available. 2020-2023 might have been an idyll of stability that we'll never see again, irrespective of corporate virtue.
The "normal" turnover rate for the industry is literal corpo death and implosion or indie dramafest/google doc. People just judge Holo much harshly because 1. They like the corpo and/or 2. Industry leader should set a higher standard, which I agree with.

I do think Holo is "shedding weight" at the moment as 4 of out the 6 graduations have been less than active members who've been essentially checked out for years, hopefully they will begin hiring people who are more in line with whatever new mysterious ethos the company wants and the turnover will slow down again.

I wouldn't be surprised if the company ends up gaining a reputation for being hyper-competitive and only for masochists who desire the highest level of stardom as quickly as possible. The years of cruising along without much ambition might just be over if there's such a big (indirect or otherwise) push for performing in the background.
 
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Aka Split

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I'll be sending a letter, but also doing this too:

I suck at emotions too, so figuring out what to say is always horrible.
 
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Negzana

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Smelliest007

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Will we finally get a hint to what she looks like IRL?

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Phantasm

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Apparently this is how I find out they're actually making the Zelda movie and it's not a joke
 

Superduper Samurai

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Apparently this is how I find out they're actually making the Zelda movie and it's not a joke

Cant wait to see black zelda and aryan ganondorf
 

NeneLOVE

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Renmai

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I do think Holo is "shedding weight" at the moment as 4 of out the 6 graduations have been less than active members who've been essentially checked out for years, hopefully they will begin hiring people who are more in line with whatever new ethos the company wants and the turnover will slow down again.
I was about to post something similar. To me it seems like Cover's vaunted HR kinda messed up with Council. Not in getting talented and cute young women, Council/Promise is probably one of my favorite gen of universally likable talents. But maybe temperament, personality, work expectations and stage in their life.

For example I used to work in a quasi government agency setting and noticed they would often decline to hire young and ambitious applicants, or those from high paying industries, like oil and gas or tech startups, in favor of the more agreeable stable older ones. Those types tend to bail fast or are not suited to the plodding nature of government corpo work. For Holo, each talent leaving is a huge scandal and damage to the brand so they need to minimize that. In fact I'd prioritize it.

We'll see if HR learned, and Advent and Justice are better fits. By now all the applicants know about the large "homework" load, constant flights to Japan, and all the idol stuff. All the new girls seem to be grinders and many experienced hardships, failures and long periods of no success.

Tl:dr hire more hags
 

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NeneLOVE

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I was about to post something similar. To me it seems like Cover's vaunted HR kinda messed up with Council. Not in getting talented and cute young women, Council/Promise is probably one of my favorite gen of universally likable talents. But maybe temperament, personality, work expectations and stage in their life.

For example I used to work in a quasi government agency setting and noticed they would often decline to hire young and ambitious applicants, or those from high paying industries, like oil and gas or tech startups, in favor of the more agreeable stable older ones. Those types tend to bail fast or are not suited to the plodding nature of government corpo work. For Holo, each talent leaving is a huge scandal and damage to the brand so they need to minimize that. In fact I'd prioritize it.

We'll see if HR learned, and Advent and Justice are better fits. By now all the applicants know about the large "homework" load, constant flights to Japan, and all the idol stuff. All the new girls seem to be grinders and many experienced hardships, failures and long periods of no success.

Tl:dr hire more hags
Council was brought in at a turbulent time, it was less than a year post-boom, everyone had insane expectations for myth's follow-up and you omegay at the helm doing whatever he pleased. I think Advent and Justice are a lot better prepared since they were brought in after the boom died down and people began having less rose-tinted delusions about the industry and corpos. The more cynical the industry gets, the wiser people will get about trying to join a corpo (BIG RAINBOW).
 

Renmai

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Hag, lesbian, and to make Bae feel less lonely, Australian.

Anyone fitting the bill?
Spoon feed.me. Ever since the threads got split, I have little need to go to the main thread to skim past all the indie and small corpo stuffs.
 

Superduper Samurai

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Hag, lesbian, and to make Bae feel less lonely, Australian.

Anyone fitting the bill?

Warning: may contain sausage and eggs
 

JusticeDog

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I do think Holo is "shedding weight" at the moment as 4 of out the 6 graduations have been less than active members who've been essentially checked out for years
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Smelliest007

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The more cynical the industry gets, the wiser people will get about trying to join a corpo (BIG RAINBOW).
Well, the ones who aren't that wise are probably not passing their auditions. BIG RAINBOW
 

NeneLOVE

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Gura is just mickey mouse, she's kept around for the prestige. And to live rent free in the heads of gorillions and make them seethe.
 

Smelliest007

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SpringKusa

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well, I will be very surprised if this kiara members will not lead to increased doom and shitposting
 

Smelliest007

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Phantasm

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well, I will be very surprised if this kiara members will not lead to increased doom and shitposting
Can you at least drop some hints about what she said?
 

Smelliest007

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Can you at least drop some hints about what she said?
Kiara's thread on /vt/ is making it sound like nothing but more complaining about medication and her bad back.
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