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I think someone here said she mentioned on a members stream she doesn't like the penguin jokes, so it could at least be a color change.
Suzupin is like the opposite of huke, or even Paco; just not that doting at all. Maybe a redesign by someone who's more in tune with vtubing (I know, cringe) but also more accommodating an artist, for a change.
 

JusticeDog

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Original artist abandoned her. Her eyes are all fucked up in 3D, her arms are a meme. Ugly shrink-wrapped outfit that people made penguin jokes about (especially due to her name) despite being intended to be based on a Barong.
The arms alone fully justify a redesign :SelenHAHAhere:
 

Negzana

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Stream started I love Kaela

Kronii is still with Kaela...
 

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Wixoyu

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Many wonderful Ceci giggles this collab.
 

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Kaela's redesign new outfit confirmed in stream right now. Expect nu-Kaela next week.
e: she's playing the teaser again and I am now deaf.
 

Negzana

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Kaela's been in for almost 3 years

3 years before this I didn't even know what vtubers were. I was a normal person. I was functional.

Kaela's redesign confirmed in stream right now. Expect nu-Kaela next week.
Looks sex by the silhouette, and her face is the same which is good
 

BlueSharkTV

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Someone posted this on the Kronii thread, I don't know where it came from or if it's real but it could be a new base design like IRyS.
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>Israel
I guess incompetence plagues every official HoloTwitter account, I wonder if they fucked it up because they wanted to schedule it but posted it instead. :pippasquish:
 

VTuberBobDole

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Yeah, seems like a complete redesign but keeping the same character, like IRyS did with hers.
 

tarkanoltr

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She's going to do a redebut stream of sorts, no new outfit, but should be new visuals.
 

Negzana

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I told you a new HoloID Gen would come and you didn't believe it. I might have gotten the specifics just a tiny bit off but this is a new debut. I was right.
 
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frz

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Does she particularly dislike her original?

Base redesigns (not upgrades) aren't rare in Holo but also not super common, iirc the people who have gotten one are:
Sora (outdated design)
Miko (outdated design)
Suisei (outdated design)
Azki (seems to be her thing)

Flare (Hated her OG)

Nene (Theme changed to swerve away from chink pandering)

Edit: Forgot Irys (ugly)
have you ever looked at kaela original model. It's uggo as fuck, the proportions are all fucked and her boobs spaced so far apart they are different entities. Actually a crime when you compared it to Kobo & Zeta model.
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She abanddoned it real fast once she got her new outfit. She mainly streams using the 2nd and 3rd model because they are much better looking.
 

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have you ever looked at kaela original model. It's uggo as fuck, the proportions are all fucked and her boobs spaced so far apart they are different entities. Actually a crime when you compared it to Kobo & Zeta model.
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She abanddoned it real fast once she got her new outfit. She mainly streams using the 2nd and 3rd model because they are much better looking.
I mean what did you expect of a Digimon Artist :selenpointandlaugh:
 

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I saw this stream on the front page of Holodex around 11 hours into it and Jurard had almost 4.5k viewers at the time, which would have been his fifth highest CCV ever, behind his first three streams and his new outfit reveal earlier this year.

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I was going to post about how the blanket Pokemon perms have been good for even Holostars, but then I thought maybe he was being botted or something, since he's usually a high 3/low 4-view for most streams. The Playboard looked like this:

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Checking the chat comments on Hololyzer showed that what actually happened was this:

1. Biboo streams Monster Hunter for 11 hours, then raids into Iofi with 27k viewers
2. Iofi (who is also playing MH) raids into Jurard half an hour later with 19k viewers
3. Jurard streams for another five hours and retains around a quarter of those viewers by the end

It's still impressive that he retained any of those viewers at all, considering Biboo has a pretty unicorn-heavy fanbase like the rest of Advent.

Regarding the Pokemon perms, a couple of hours later, Rio was streaming another Pokemon game to around 3k viewers.

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This is notable because he usually maxes out at 200-300 viewers for solo streams (like the rest of Stars JP other than Roberu and Aruran), it was 3 AM in Japan, and he didn't get raided, so it appears that Pokemon is a big draw for female JP viewers, as well.

As an aside, every member of Stars EN averages a significantly higher CCV than almost everyone in Stars JP; most EN streams usually have low 3/high 4-figure viewers at any given time. The first generation of Stars JP has been streaming to 200-300 viewers for almost six years at this point; Miyabi mentioned once that his debut stream had a couple dozen viewers, so averaging a Finana is still an improvement.
 

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I saw this stream on the front page of Holodex around 11 hours into it and Jurard had almost 4.5k viewers at the time, which would have been his fifth highest CCV ever, behind his first three streams and his new outfit reveal earlier this year.

gfqdNxBm_o.png


I was going to post about how the blanket Pokemon perms have been good for even Holostars, but then I thought maybe he was being botted or something, since he's usually a high 3/low 4-view for most streams. The Playboard looked like this:

AZPUSoCF_o.png


Checking the chat comments on Hololyzer showed that what actually happened was this:

1. Biboo streams Monster Hunter for 11 hours, then raids into Iofi with 27k viewers
2. Iofi (who is also playing MH) raids into Jurard half an hour later with 19k viewers
3. Jurard streams for another five hours and retains around a quarter of those viewers by the end

It's still impressive that he retained any of those viewers at all, considering Biboo has a pretty unicorn-heavy fanbase like the rest of Advent.

Regarding the Pokemon perms, a couple of hours later, Rio was streaming another Pokemon game to around 3k viewers.

7lVCQ82z_o.png


This is notable because he usually maxes out at 200-300 viewers for solo streams (like the rest of Stars JP other than Roberu and Aruran), it was 3 AM in Japan, and he didn't get raided, so it appears that Pokemon is a big draw for female JP viewers, as well.

As an aside, every member of Stars EN averages a significantly higher CCV than almost everyone in Stars JP; most EN streams usually have low 3/high 4-figure viewers at any given time. The first generation of Stars JP has been streaming to 200-300 viewers for almost six years at this point; Miyabi mentioned once that his debut stream had a couple dozen viewers, so averaging a Finana is still an improvement.
I don't have anything against the stars (I would be happy if they were successful like the girls) but they are a baffling thing to exist for long despite being so unprofitable and unpopular. I think anyone business minded would've stopped at one gen after seeing how poorly they were received.
 
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Phantasm

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I don't have anything against the stars (I would be happy if they were successful like the girls) but they are a baffling thing to exist for long despite being so unprofitable and unpopular. I think anyone business minded would've stopped at one gen after seeing how poorly they were received.
They're like covers very own WNBA you have all these people wondering why the boys don't get the same shit that the girls do but fail to understand that one brings in much more money than the other does and in the meantime if all the people bitching and moaning about the boys actually watched them they'd be in a much better spot than they are now
 
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frz

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I don't have anything against the stars (I would be happy if they were successful like the girls) but they are baffling thing to exist for long despite being so unprofitable and unpopular. I think anyone business minded would've stopped at one gen after seeing how poorly they were recieved.
Tbf you could have said the same about gen 0.
Only sora was doing anything. But her viewership still wasnt high enough to recoup the expenses since 3d and motion tracking was expensive as fuck then

One day holostars gonna be popu.... :ponrys::ponrys::ponrys::ponrys:
Ok that aint gonna happen lelw.

You have to be feminine, you have to engage in yaoibait to attract the current anime/anime-adjacent audience. Same is true even in the west. See how successful Sykkuno and Shoto are.

The male flesh streaming scence itself arent bro friendly either, the top streamers appeal to children, some of them are actual proplayers.
 

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