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VSoyBoy

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Another graduation instead of going affiliate. How much does Cover expect of affiliates that people are choosing to graduate instead?

Or is it the idol autism that makes them want to do the proper graduation?
 

Phantasm

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Another graduation instead of going affiliate. How much does Cover expect of affiliates that people are choosing to graduate instead?

Or is it the idol autism that makes them want to do the proper graduation?
I mean we don't know maybe the thing about affiliates having a non-compete clause was right because I too was expecting more people to be affiliates
 

Negzana

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I mean we don't know maybe the thing about affiliates having a non-compete clause was right because I too was expecting more people to be affiliates
Honestly I was expecting Shion to go affiliate given I thought she liked the Gura/Ayame coasting model and would just want to officialize it.
 

Aquatic Novellite

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I mean we don't know maybe the thing about affiliates having a non-compete clause was right because I too was expecting more people to be affiliates
Ame streams, so no.
 

tarkanoltr

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Halal Gaming

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I kinda just realized

This is full blown graduation right? Wonder how this will affect the EN release of HoloTCG since set 2 is focused on Shion
And Holowitches too where Chloe is also a member

This is her new twitter account that was created in October of 2024
And this is her fanbox if you feel like paying 10000 JPY
 

Phantasm

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Ame streams, so no.
The non-compete was theorized to be against other companies Dooby's an Indie so I don't think they'd be able to stop her from streaming altogether
 

Negzana

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And Holowitches too where Chloe is also a member

This is her new twitter account that was created in October of 2024
And this is her fanbox if you feel like paying 10000 JPY

I wonder if she's gonna get Tam U to do art for her reincarnation.

Frankly, maybe Hololive did burn her out that hard, but I can't imagine her being much more active in her rebirth either.
 

frz

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What is this mythical direction people keep citing on graduations? Is it just reference to things being more corporate behind the scenes?
literally hololive's version of "Dog ate my homework"
She aint going to say "I am lazy as fuck. I made enough money, bye bitches"
I hope whoever oshis Choco holds onto her dear. The curse is 3/4 complete.
She's too old for a career change imo. Unless she has a baby or something I dont think she would quit. Choco already sleeps 12 hour a day and still fucking have time for her PL. Literally can't ask for a better job.
 

White Stone

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I have read this theory before somewhere.

Ame and Chloe graduated relatively close to their anniversary, aka close to when their contract expires, hence "affiliate".
Fauna and Shion graduated nowhere close to their anniversary, so they can't be an "affiliate" even if they want to.
 

Aquatic Novellite

Merry Shiorin
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The non-compete was theorized to be against other companies Dooby's an Indie so I don't think they'd be able to stop her from streaming altogether
If Shion quits Holo only to join another, smaller vtubing company, I'm going to shell out for a custom title of your choosing.
 

RiverBear

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I wonder if she's gonna get Tam U to do art for her reincarnation.

Frankly, maybe Hololive did burn her out that hard, but I can't imagine her being much more active in her rebirth either.
We said the same about Aqua yet she's been more active than when she was with Hololive
 

Phantasm

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Yagoo made a tweet thanking everyone for their support and saying they're still trying to improve and make things better for all the talents
 

Koronesuki

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Joined:  Oct 1, 2023
As much as I admittedly don't care about Shion
Didn't watch Shion but this seems really damaging for a lot of Hololive.
The most I care about her is this might be the final nail for Gura ever being motivated and that she shares the artist for Panko who I like watching occasionally.
Oh right that's why I had an active apathy for her.
I hope whoever oshis Choco holds onto her dear. The curse is 3/4 complete.
Could you not? You do this every time someone graduates. No one wants to hear about it. Stop it. Get some help.
What is this mythical direction people keep citing on graduations? Is it just reference to things being more corporate behind the scenes?
Did you watch Hololive before 2020? Do you watch now? It's very different. I don't think there's much more to it than that.
Another graduation instead of going affiliate. How much does Cover expect of affiliates that people are choosing to graduate instead?

Or is it the idol autism that makes them want to do the proper graduation?
The second thing. Idols don't keep hanging around after they stop being idols. They have one last hurrah and go out on a high note. Did you watch Aqua's graduation? Shion wants the same kind of graduation.
 

tarkanoltr

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Fubuki already planning collab streams:
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ValkyrieAce

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How many people have access to this woman's account? Does she just give it up to anyone who asks?

She’s getting visa fucked like Ina was before. Apparently the only thing she’s cleared to work on is Fes, so no other outside things, even tweeting.
 
Translation/Summary of Shion's Graduation Announcement New

Shuba

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She's graduating, April 26th. Difference in direction being used as the reason again. Her mental was doing incredibly bad and she thought of graduating multiple times over the years. She had hoped that her hiatuses would help but this was the decision she came to. She understands that she has to follow guidelines and rules when you're in a company, but it can be difficult to accept when new rules get added along the way. Simply, it isn't what she originally signed up for. Also said not to go off rumors and just trust in her words.
Expanding on this after watching again.

Everything that Shion said in her graduation announcement:

Her heart hurt to announce it but she's graduating on April 26th due to a difference in direction with the company.

This is something she felt like doing for years and it's been building up. Her mental was at such a bad state before her hiatus last year, she was genuinely concerned for her life (basically implying she heavily considered suicide). Her mental health and physical health were both doing terrible and she had to visit the hospital multiple times. Her hiatus was meant to help with this, as she didn't want to end up hating this hobby. But even now, she still has to go to the hospital and it's likely that her mental will never be completely fixed.

However, one thing she's sure of after coming back from her hiatus is that she loves this. If this was her from long ago, she wouldn't have even gone to the hospital and would have just given up on trying to fix herself (again, heavy suicide implications). But because of all the love and support from the fans, she wanted to try harder at taking care of herself last year. She was able to think of the internet as a great place and she wanted to keep smiling with all the love from her fans. This is not a lie.

Of course, it's right to follow the guidelines and rules of a company you're a part of. But as the years passed, she had to do things that she didn't have to back then or things that she wasn't really ready for. This is where she thinks the gap between her and the company began. This is the main reason for her graduation. She was concerned about announcing it right before 6th Fes, but she wanted everyone to know that this was her final Fes.

She knows "difference in direction" has been said a ton, but that's really all this is and she apologizes that she can't say more. She plans to go into more detail at a later stream. There will be a ton of rumors and speculation around but please don't get tricked by that and just trust in her words. This is truly how it is, truly what she thinks and she hopes this won't be used maliciously out of context. There's still some time left so she wants to make a lot of memories with everyone. She'll do her best in 6th fes and she hopes we'll keep supporting her until the end.
 

Sporg

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We said the same about Aqua yet she's been more active than when she was with Hololive
Not sure how true it is since I rarely keep up with Shion, but I saw someone elsewhere say that she very recently mentioned that she had bought some new streaming-related equipment.
 

Shuba

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Joined:  Oct 22, 2022


Yagoo made a tweet thanking everyone for their support and saying they're still trying to improve and make things better for all the talents

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This is true. Multiple talents have talked about how recently, Yagoo has set up open tea sessions where talents can just go and chat with him about anything they want. FuwaMoco said they've been to all of them, Towa and Subaru have also gone to one together. He's also been setting up more chances for private meetings as well iirc. It's at least nice to see he's not bullshitting about this and taking it seriously.
 

Phantasm

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Joined:  Nov 28, 2022


Guys I think Laplus is already making plans for after the graduation
 
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