Hololive General

[thirteenorphans]

Did you watch Hololive before 2020? Do you watch now? It's very different. I don't think there's much more to it than that.

I'm mainly arguing semantics here, direction to me implies a strategic aspect and to me the strategy of "stream and do events" hasn't changed - except in production quality and frequency.

McDonald's no longer frying their fries in beef tallow is not a change of direction. Nor is adding safety processes and audits.

Of course I'm not saying things haven't changed, for good or bad. Just that the verbiage used is very ambiguous and likely intentionally so.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Apparently she said in a stream (Either the membership or announcement?) that one issue she's had is she feels like vtubing isn't a real job and she feels pressured to grow up and have a real job? Can someone confirm that?

Shion. Remember Abe.

You have money. You can retire to the countryside with a small harem of gachikoi and make Abe happy.

 

[Poyoyo & Jill]

I just realized a lot of the girls that graduated recently are less than 30 years old

 

[Negzana]

I just realized a lot of the girls that graduated recently are less than 30 years old

That means all my oshis in Hololive are safe

 

[Saturnus]

bro my onion and garlic combo is officially gone now

Gotta get Salt and Pepper ready for gen7 or else there's no spice/seasoning in Hololive.

 

[Koronesuki]

McDonald's no longer frying their fries in beef tallow is not a change of direction.

Many would disagree with that statement. Some would disagree quite strongly.

I just realized a lot of the girls that graduated recently are less than 30 years old

A lot of the younger girls, at least the ones who joined before 2020, may not have joined with the intention of making this a career. They may want to move on to other things. The older girls are less likely to want to make such a change at this point.

Gotta get Salt and Pepper ready for gen7 or else there's no spice/seasoning in Hololive.

Salt already became their first affiliate.

 

[Cptn Snshn]

Flayon already raped kronii 500 times since this thread got made councilsister

The only reason he feels comfortable raping her as a femboy faggot is the fact that Kronii has a 10ft cock.


Source: I mean why would anyone lie about that?

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

I'm mainly arguing semantics here, direction to me implies a strategic aspect and to me the strategy of "stream and do events" hasn't changed - except in production quality and frequency.

McDonald's no longer frying their fries in beef tallow is not a change of direction. Nor is adding safety processes and audits.

Of course I'm not saying things haven't changed, for good or bad. Just that the verbiage used is very ambiguous and likely intentionally so.

How many times do we see an actor or director leave a project due to "creative differences" and don't freak out. Means basically the same catch all thing.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Time passes. People move on.

All you can do is to remember them.

 

[Abomination]

This is something she felt like doing for years and it's been building up. Her mental was at such a bad state before her hiatus last year, she was genuinely concerned for her life (basically implying she heavily considered suicide). Her mental health and physical health were both doing terrible and she had to visit the hospital multiple times. Her hiatus was meant to help with this, as she didn't want to end up hating this hobby. But even now, she still has to go to the hospital and it's likely that her mental will never be completely fixed.

However, one thing she's sure of after coming back from her hiatus is that she loves this. If this was her from long ago, she wouldn't have even gone to the hospital and would have just given up on trying to fix herself (again, heavy suicide implications). But because of all the love and support from the fans, she wanted to try harder at taking care of herself last year. She was able to think of the internet as a great place and she wanted to keep smiling with all the love from her fans. This is not a lie.

I can't say this is too surprising to hear, but it's incredibly sad to hear. At least she was very smart to recognize the problems she was having, including when she decided to take her hiatus. And at least she's been taking care of herself. I really hope she continues with this after she graduates. Even when she's moved on, I know there will be plenty of reminders that she still has fans that love her and wish her all the best. I hope that she remembers that whenever she needs it.

Myself, while I didn't watch Shion as much as others, I did enjoy her quite a bit when I did watch her. Her early collabs with Aqua and their Minecraft shenanigans were so much fun when I was getting into vtubing. It is a shame to see her go, but it's understandable. She even admits that the writing has been on the wall for a long time now. She clearly doesn't have the same spark she once had, and it can't be easy to be an entertainer without it. She's been in this for a long time, and she started when she and the industry as a whole was still young. A lot has changed since then, and that much change isn't always easy to adapt to, especially while having to deal with the health problems she's been. This is clearly what is best for her.

I hope the remaining time will be great for her and her fans and that both will be able to see each other off with some great memories. I'm no where near her biggest fan, but I'll have fond memories of her time as Shion, and I'll definitely keep rewatching my favorite moments with her.

God speed you smug little kusogaki witch. I hope life after will treat you well and that you remember you'll always have so many people cheering you on.


And with all this being said, I really hope this won't be as hard on Subaru as Aqua's graduation. That was really hard to watch.

 

[Ensok]

She was like, the youngest person in Hololive when she applied so I guess it's not too surprising that she might want to move on and experience more things compared to some of the older girls who really view this as their full career.

 

[NeneLOVE]

All of this is gonna be incredibly funny when she comes back next week omegalul

Truth is, Shion has been inconsistent for years and joined at a time when the company was so disorganized and unprofessional that by her own admission alongside other members they basically told them "take this phone and stream", no gen cohesion, no coaching pre-debut or anything (Korone's disastrous debut hadn't yet happened).

Apart from Chloe and fauna a lot of these drops are not surprising to me, specially not this one. This "difference in direction" shit is just a stock robotic "she didn't wanna work here anymore" they are never gonna tell you why she left but the bitch has been in menhera hiatus after menhera hiatus for years, go guess why it was.

 

[frz]

Expanding on this after watching again.

Everything that Shion said in her graduation announcement:​

Her heart hurt to announce it but she's graduating on April 26th due to a difference in direction with the company.

This is something she felt like doing for years and it's been building up. Her mental was at such a bad state before her hiatus last year, she was genuinely concerned for her life (basically implying she heavily considered suicide). Her mental health and physical health were both doing terrible and she had to visit the hospital multiple times. Her hiatus was meant to help with this, as she didn't want to end up hating this hobby. But even now, she still has to go to the hospital and it's likely that her mental will never be completely fixed.

However, one thing she's sure of after coming back from her hiatus is that she loves this. If this was her from long ago, she wouldn't have even gone to the hospital and would have just given up on trying to fix herself (again, heavy suicide implications). But because of all the love and support from the fans, she wanted to try harder at taking care of herself last year. She was able to think of the internet as a great place and she wanted to keep smiling with all the love from her fans. This is not a lie.

Of course, it's right to follow the guidelines and rules of a company you're a part of. But as the years passed, she had to do things that she didn't have to back then or things that she wasn't really ready for. This is where she thinks the gap between her and the company began. This is the main reason for her graduation. She was concerned about announcing it right before 6th Fes, but she wanted everyone to know that this was her final Fes.

She knows "difference in direction" has been said a ton, but that's really all this is and she apologizes that she can't say more. She plans to go into more detail at a later stream. There will be a ton of rumors and speculation around but please don't get tricked by that and just trust in her words. This is truly how it is, truly what she thinks and she hopes this won't be used maliciously out of context. There's still some time left so she wants to make a lot of memories with everyone. She'll do her best in 6th fes and she hopes we'll keep supporting her until the end.

I made this post during her return from hiatus. Armchair theorizing that she has real mental health issues and that she needed to see a therapist.
I could still be wrong on the exact conditions, but, end of the day "just get over it" has royally failed. If you have mental problem you need professional help. Too bad noone in asia takes it seriously.

Only thing I hope at this point is not hearing about her killing herself if her post-holo stint doesn't work out. But retiring instead of forcing yourself to continue is a correct move

All of this is gonna be incredibly funny when she comes back next week omegalul

you get the pass to call everyone fag and "I told you so" if this is right.

 

[agility_]

Why can't it ever be the cumdumpsters. I literally would not bat an eyelid if Lamy or Noel decided to go away.
Shion was always funny. Damn this.

 

[Grass4Cats]

I was suspicious when there is a sudden spike of streaming activity AND collab with Korone. It's like a telltale sign at this point. Wasn't surprised at the announcement.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Wrong, I actually read posts while migoing

Why the fuck would you read a bunch of worthless Holobrony posts, might as well just set up a bot.

The funniest part about all of this is that Holo has not really been affected by this string of grads, even if people freak out (or pretend to freak out) about them the company has done nothing but grow in terms of CCV lately (around 50% of the entire industry), it was recently reported that Holo had broken several all time agency watchtime records even with less members than before.

Truly fucking ironic. It would honestly be better if shit did catch on fire because then there would be more internal panic, but it seems like there really isn't.

 

[Empty_Inbox]

 

[Sankisei]

Why can't it ever be the cumdumpsters. I literally would not bat an eyelid if Lamy or Noel decided to go away.
Shion was always funny. Damn this.

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Damn Dude i understand seething at Noel but Lamy has cancer risk problems

 

[La+ de Central Norte]

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Me with a Bomb in my backpack:

 

[NeneLOVE]

Me with a Bomb in my backpack:
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Argensimian jihad is something I did not expect.