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General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

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Muyu has started getting hit with copyright. In response to this, she has decided to be very based and link to gofile with archives.

Here's the link in question:
https://gofile.io/d/sPKALC
 

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So merging a branch is like putting it on death row. You get a very small backlash because you are not firing them, you even are adding them to the main branch! They will surely get more assistance and opportunities this way. In reality you are just putting them on a cue to fire them in a more sneaky and delayed way.
I think you're partially right - merging the branches let them dodge the initial PR hit they would have got from letting everyone go. But what happened after that was a steady stream of ID talents quitting over months and months (which definitely gave a bunch of people the impression that Niji had turned into a sinking ship). That probably hurt them PR-wise even worse in the long run than simply saying "sorry, this branch isn't working out business-wise and we need to leave the market".
 

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Seems like it would have been better all around to just kill the branch outright and let everyone go at once rather than drag them through this.....
Seems like death by a thousand cuts as far as their reputation goes. On the other hand ex-KR has been doing pretty well after assimilating into the main branch - for a generous interpretation maybe they just miscalculated the capability (or willingness) of ID to do the same. I'm far from an expert but I was under the impression that the KR talents have always been closer with JP, while ID mostly did their own thing. And honestly it must suck knowing that you're never going to get new kouhai.

With Kanade i noticed that there are a lot of Japs that will watch a Korean Vtuber if they speak nihongo
Yeah it's true, I think pre-merge Niji's biggest KR talent was Bora who mostly had a JP audience, and then she went on to join VSPO and became even bigger over there. Now they have people like Seffyna and Nari who are also very popular with JP fans (seems possible that Nari will even get a 3D model for the dance stage she's doing at Nijifes, won't be long before that rrat is confirmed or not). But I guess as groups like Isegye Idol continue to grow there will be more of a demand for 'pure' KR vtubers.
 
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Seems like death by a thousand cuts as far as their reputation goes. On the other hand ex-KR has been doing pretty well after assimilating into the main branch - for a generous interpretation maybe they just miscalculated the capability (or willingness) of ID to do the same. I'm far from an expert but I was under the impression that the KR talents have always been closer with JP, while ID mostly did their own thing. And honestly it must suck knowing that you're never going to get new kouhai.
With Kanade i noticed that there are a lot of Japs that will watch a Korean Vtuber if they speak nihongo
 

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Alright I'm just gonna say, Runie's karaoke fuckin slapped. Muyu is a powerful singer but I think Runie is gonna turn out to be some gold too, the Last Christmas yandere mix was especially cool. (Starts around 43:00)
 

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trying to keep up with the Nijifes streams is hard
 

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I have to thank Proctor for expanding the rules for vtubers visiting this site publicly. It was very considerate of him to take the time and effort to do so in addition to looking out for the people who make this community a thing in the first place. Good jerb dear leader. :shubaIapprob:
 

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I have to thank Proctor for expanding the rules for vtubers visiting this site publicly. It was very considerate of him to take the time and effort to do so in addition to looking out for the people who make this community a thing in the first place. Good jerb dear leader. :shubaIapprob:

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I have to thank Proctor for expanding the rules for vtubers visiting this site publicly. It was very considerate of him to take the time and effort to do so in addition to looking out for the people who make this community a thing in the first place. Good jerb dear leader. :shubaIapprob:
Now you can finally admit that you're Rie :BijouBijou:
 

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Man, the new Vtube studio update brings back all the classics;

And some new ones;

[EDIT:] Audio is from Ami's short cover of GEDDAN (It's real name is Promise by Kohmi Hirose) It's good! You watch!
 
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To all of this I say:

Yes, and?

It's going to take work to replicate the exact scenario, much like anything else that is pushing new tech in the industry, and I still maintain that the donation potential would be worth it.

On a smaller scale, individual streamers could test the waters with single-player, moddable games, not necessarily Minecraft. Learn the process as you go, turn the scuff into content itself. As time goes by, more streams are in the bag, more experience and tech know-how in how to set it up, and to teach their friends how to do so. Slowly expand to two people streaming at once, when that process has been nailed down, add another, so on and so forth.

But, really, the benefit I see is in solo-streams, giving added benefits to regular donations when activated. In the short term, early days of using it will have a sizeable boost in donos, which will readily stabilize as time goes by. Stable does not mean "bad" or "not worth the effort", as this sort of thing could be used to give supporters more value for their dollar, incentivizing them to stay/remain as regular supporters. I see this as adding to the value proposition of the streamer, where I would argue that the start-up cost - while initially high in comparison to immediate returns - is something that will be appreciated in the long-term, where it shouldn't be seen as a novelty, but something in the same vein as "funny sounds being played on stream tied to donation number".

Once normalized, it would be up to the streamers themselves to innovate, but that's a different conversation altogether in terms of talent vs streamer ability to maintain an audience.
your taking up far more of your corps staff resources when you could just have them stream like normal one time per talent and make about as much without having to fuck around with technical issues.

you might get an influx of additional donos sure but is the marginal profit increase worth the set up the extra hours and logistics? and that is assuming it all goes smooth.

if you want a quick cash infusion it's far cheaper easier and works nearly as well to just have them collab like normal .
We can groom Mika into joining HoloID, ayo
I honestly think this is most likely at least what shes AIMING for. i know a big part of her audience is English but there are things she can do to include them i know Reine does to some extent i don't see her in Vsho simply because while they can do events and such it's still rare and theres little/no support which is what she says she wants.
Add @wew, @Empraize and @somethingfarworseinthehorizon and its a collab more than half the forum will watch.
stop encouraging them to groom us traitor!
 
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