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CalciumAnimal

Drink Milk
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Please take your talk of Legal Grindset and his debt dodging tactics over to the banter thread. It is not on topic to the current happening.
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let the two retards fight!
 

VSoyBoy

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Joined:  Feb 16, 2024
Please take your talk of Legal Grindset and his debt dodging tactics over to the banter thread. It is not on topic to the current happening.
:medsmoremeds:
Done.
 

bothyourhouses

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Joined:  Sep 28, 2022
everyone delete pasts stuff on their own whim so there's no actual rule or demand to delete things
Or there's a rule but they enforce it inconsistently. That would be a classic bully corpo tactic.
including more favourable employment laws for them.
Japanese law has many problems but I'm not sure it's actually more favourable. I've lost track of who is being suggested to sue who over what, but not paying wages or suspending someone without a really solid cause is something the Japanese courts will rule against (although they tend to only award actual damages), and they're not super eager to enforce non-competes.
even for those exemptions she would first have to argue that she is an employee and not a contractor. We're like five arguments deep before she can get her actual case heard.
All of them pretty normal for an employment dispute though? Bad employers put layers of bullshit in their contracts all the time, the court will be used to that and will cut through it. If you could get out of your obligations by incorporating overseas and putting a few lines in the contract, everyone would do it.
 

The Scream Guy

Genuinely Mentally Handicapped
Joined:  Mar 10, 2023
What really gets me, is that if we take twisty's claims at face value, they were apparently willing to stick up so much for Aster in the name of not losing any more face after all their graduations, terminations and general lower turnout of the EN branch, was it done just because they were just incompetent? does Aster give free rimjobs to Riku on Saturdays? If she wasnt just the only Liver he fucked with, and he actually was a sexpest, its just bizzare
Aster probably has some juicy behind the scenes dirt and is using it to blackmail management/Riku to the point they're afraid if they terminate him he will leak all their skeletons in the closet as revenge
 

Negronald Trump

I am the greatest black president evar!
Joined:  Dec 22, 2022
A proposed NijiEN logo for their upcoming 5th year anniversary. The logo represents their inclusivity, equality, respect for everyone and an overall commitment to be as transparent and fair to their talents and fans as much as possible.

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It captures the very essence of being a NijisanjiEN fan.

Bint, your SEAníggerry is very much represented here. Try not to choke on that pagpag ok.
 
It's over Twisty bros... New

Smelliest007

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Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
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All hail King Aster.
 
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Thomas Talus

Εκ λόγου άλλος εκβαίνει λόγος
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 15, 2022
I'm not even sure what relief either side would be praying for in a theoretical international suit, in either direction, that would be worth suing over.
 

Sankisei

HOLOLIVE SAIKYO
Joined:  Feb 23, 2023

dkn2038

it all started with an "A"
Joined:  May 19, 2024
It doesnt matter that Twisty did a Miguel
Her fuck up isnt going to undone all the shit Aster did
And is not like Riku even cared about it, niji managers only want to keep company's name intact, they don't care about the female talents well being

He's a brand risk but they know admitting it makes them be perceived as negligent

Edit: more ranting
They'll push it under the rug, probably will make him sign an NDA and will receive a graduation in the same way they did with Ike, and probably will tell lies about the reason he's out

That if they even fire him...
 

Superduper Samurai

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Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Right on time for page 700

Anyone want to bet what they put on the termination notice? I wonder if they will make is vauge or verbose as fuck like Selens
Either way i hope Twisty is shoring up her discord kitten and burger flipping skills
 

dkn2038

it all started with an "A"
Joined:  May 19, 2024
Right on time for page 700

Anyone want to bet what they put on the termination notice? I wonder if they will make is vauge or verbose as fuck like Selens
Either way i hope Twisty is shoring up her discord kitten and burger flipping skills
I bet it will be a longer hit piece than the one our beloved GUY ana valens wrote LMAO
 

Smelliest007

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Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
Right on time for page 700

Anyone want to bet what they put on the termination notice? I wonder if they will make is vauge or verbose as fuck like Selens
Either way i hope Twisty is shoring up her discord kitten and burger flipping skills
I bet we will have a vague one, the less the masses ask question about Aster, the better.
 

reinigen

Dang it
Ward Security
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
Right on time for page 700

Anyone want to bet what they put on the termination notice? I wonder if they will make is vauge or verbose as fuck like Selens
Either way i hope Twisty is shoring up her discord kitten and burger flipping skills
The REAL bet is how long it'll take them to shitcan Aster.
 

Mantine

Active member
Joined:  Feb 6, 2024
The menhera woman with grievances (and evidence) is terminated before the sexual predator. Really shows what Nijisanji's priorities are lol.
 

Hff201

Pippa Fan, Failed Normalfriend
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 13, 2022
Now all they need to do is put out a statement saying she was terminated for racism and transphobia, and the general populace will forget about them forcing her to deal with sexual harassment altogether.

EDIT:
I love how when you search "aster nijisanji" on YouTube it brings up drama videos talking about him and a bunch of random clips (including a painfully cringe-inducing video of him flirting with Finana) before anything from his actual channel, even on a logged-out incog tab. Good luck digging your way out of that one buddy.
 
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BM59

How is that rifle typing on a laptop?
Joined:  Dec 13, 2024

Negronald Trump

I am the greatest black president evar!
Joined:  Dec 22, 2022

Hff201

Pippa Fan, Failed Normalfriend
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Salado

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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz

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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
At least the Owozu case did show us that labor law may perhaps not apply to a vtuber-agency work relation because if the talent's salary depends on donations and not on the employer, there is no relationship of subordination or dependence between employee and employer, technically speaking, of course.

The key here is what exactly the Nijisanji contracts promise will be the place from where the talent money salary is going to come from.
As far as we have been able to ascertain, from leaks and insider info, Nijisanji gets all the money (after Youtube takes its cut), then gives the liver their cut of the funds (which is a fraction of the total). Its not like the donations go right to the liver's bank account; Niji controls the accounts. Same with merch sales and like; Niji takes the majority, then gives the livers a cut. Honestly, its not much different from the tips that waiters/waitresses and other service workers receive. They are still employees, even if they get the vast majority of their pay from their tips. There is clearly a relationship of subordination and dependence; talents must stream on a set schedule, controlled by the company. They must use equipment provided by the company. They can't work for other companies as Vtubers while employed by Nijisanji (aka exclusivity). Everything they do as livers is controlled and overseen by the company. Their pay is controlled by the company and they specifically can not seek other sources of revenue outside the company's control using the model (which is also provided by the company and they must use that model and not their own).

Are they really going to fire a sexual harassment victim before they fire the harasser? If they do, they are beyond stupid and this company is run by morons.

Oh, Makina, sweety, no...

I hope she's just out of the loop regarding all the crap Aster is involved in and was just being nice.
 
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