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Smelliest007

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Aster, Twisty and Reimu are missing in the NijiKoshien draft. Sadly, it looks like the writing on the wall is turning into a novel for Reimu.
Just in time for people to catch onto the signs, she put out another tweet on her PL:

Reminder of what her pinned tweet is:

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I'm 75% on her leaving, shame it has to happen with all the vagueposting and shit surrounding the outfit reveal.

Fleeing after leaking Twisty's outfit! How devious! All Latinas are bitches.

I know, the whole thing is very circumstantial at best.And the signs for her leaving have been around for months now.
 

NotDecatto

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Aster, Twisty and Reimu are missing in the NijiKoshien draft. Sadly, it looks like the writing on the wall is turning into a novel for Reimu.
Just in time for people to catch onto the signs, she put out another tweet on her PL:

Reminder of what her pinned tweet is:

(a)(a)
I'm 75% on her leaving, shame it has to happen with all the vagueposting and shit surrounding the outfit reveal.

Sharing some additional tweets by Not-Reimu:
This is her reaction when the Twisty recordings from 8 months ago dropped

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This was posted 90 minutes after the Twisty black stream most recently, implying the possibility of livers having a discussion about the issue.

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Smelliest007

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Sharing some additional tweets by Not-Reimu:
This is her reaction when the Twisty recordings from 8 months ago dropped

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This was posted 90 minutes after the Twisty black stream most recently, implying the possibility of livers having a discussion about the issue.

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VSoyBoy

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This isn't really a clever plan and its the most likely explanation. She wants out. She's made it abundantly clear she wants out. Niji is effectively holding her career hostage, refusing to release her, but keeping her suspended, so she doesn't make any money. So, this is her way to force their hand. Doesn't require her to be smart, just manipulative and desperate.

Truthfully, with everything that's happened, her best bet is to get a lawyer involved and threaten Niji with a lawsuit. This suspension could count as workplace retaliation, which is straight up illegal, since its largely a response to her complaining about the sexual harassment. Not to mention that they didn't even investigate the initial complaint, which she could also sue them over. Even if NIji had the money to fight the case, that's bad PR they don't need right now. And no company wants to risk discovery. For a company like Niji, it would be devastating. She claims to have more receipts, including discord logs, messages to both staff and legal, and more to that recording of Aster, which, from the way she talks, is far more incriminating. Having all of that come out in a court case is not something that Niji wants. She probably has more than enough to simply force her way out of the contract at this point, or even argue that Niji's actions voided it. Considering how damning all of this is becoming, Niji will probably just let her walk in order to be done with it. The only thing is that if Twisty walks, Aster HAS to walk too, and probably at the same time. He's become too toxic to keep around, and the allegations against him are too damning to ignore anymore. If Twisty is terminated, Aster will have to be terminated at the same time, so that Niji doesn't look like their taking his side in the dispute. At this point, they can just fire him for cause, and be completely and legally in the clear.
Ok, let's imagine she manages to scrape together the money to even hire a lawyer, or find one who is willing to take on a 2 billion dollar company pro bono, she's going to have an extremely hard time arguing that the case doesn't fall under Japanese jurisdiction, so Niji has home-field advantage straight out the gate, including more favourable employment laws for them.
Also, she did not get suspended for complaining about Aster, she got suspended for leaking confidential information beyond what might be seen as "whistle-blowing", and even claiming whistle-blower protection for the Aster stuff would be difficult.

I generally find it hard to even suggest the legal route unless there is an overwhelming chance of success, and she's not even looking at a 50/50 if I'm being honest.
 

MerelyTourist

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Ok, let's imagine she manages to scrape together the money to even hire a lawyer, or find one who is willing to take on a 2 billion dollar company pro bono, she's going to have an extremely hard time arguing that the case doesn't fall under Japanese jurisdiction, so Niji has home-field advantage straight out the gate, including more favourable employment laws for them.
Bruh, this was explained million times. This is employment dispute. It falls wherever she live while doing the job and nowhere else. And it'll be up to niji to sue here wherever she live if they don't like her actions.
 

VSoyBoy

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Bruh, this was explained million times. This is employment dispute. It falls wherever she live while doing the job and nowhere else.
Would you be willing to back your conclusion with evidence? Because everything I'm reading has it determined by a variety of factors, a large majority of them leaning towards Japan.
And it'll be up to niji to sue here wherever she live if they don't like her actions.
I was replying to another comment. Generally it would be advised you read that comment before interpreting anything I wrote in reply.
If he is suggesting that she sue them, why are you talking about them suing her?
 

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Ok, let's imagine she manages to scrape together the money to even hire a lawyer, or find one who is willing to take on a 2 billion dollar company pro bono, she's going to have an extremely hard time arguing that the case doesn't fall under Japanese jurisdiction, so Niji has home-field advantage straight out the gate, including more favourable employment laws for them.
Also, she did not get suspended for complaining about Aster, she got suspended for leaking confidential information beyond what might be seen as "whistle-blowing", and even claiming whistle-blower protection for the Aster stuff would be difficult.

I generally find it hard to even suggest the legal route unless there is an overwhelming chance of success, and she's not even looking at a 50/50 if I'm being honest.
It falls where the employee resides.
That's why doki/selen got out, she lawyered up and the lawyer said "go ahead they won't have shit on You". Do You really believe that if niji had a case they wouldn't have sued doki to the ground? They couldn't so they tried to smear her in every way possible.
Sure Doki was a bit more mature and leaked hardly anything and let her lawyer speak for her, here twisty being the retarded negro Queen she is hasn't lawyered up, she really needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LAWYER UP.
 

returntomonke

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If Aster survives this, he must have god-tier evidence against Niji or Riku—nothing short of Riku falcon-punching a baby out of an SA victim or embezzlement levels unheard of since Enron would be enough to keep him in KuroSanji now.
 

MerelyTourist

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Would you be willing to back your conclusion with evidence? Because everything I'm reading has it determined by a variety of factors, a large majority of them leaning towards Japan.
Employment laws and court practice are the evidence. There's no variety, she's 100% full exclusive employee.
I was replying to another comment. Generally it would be advised you read that comment before interpreting anything I wrote in reply.
If he is suggesting that she sue them, why are you talking about them suing her?
She could, but why waste time with japlandian lawsuit (even if she had 6 figure sum to attempt it)? They don't earn jack shit from US so if she sue them locally they'd likely just ignore it.
So the only realistic "lawyering up" will be sending neglisanji termination letter citing all their violations, telling them to kick can and demanding all the payout from youtube and merch revenue that they docked.
 

VSoyBoy

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It falls where the employee resides.
That's why doki/selen got out, she lawyered up and the lawyer said "go ahead they won't have shit on You". Do You really believe that if niji had a case they wouldn't have sued doki to the ground? They couldn't so they tried to smear her in every way possible.
Sure Doki was a bit more mature and leaked hardly anything and let her lawyer speak for her, here twisty being the retarded negro Queen she is hasn't lawyered up, she really needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LAWYER UP.
Once again, you're going to have to spell it out for me what law overrides the contract she signed that specifies Japanese jurisdiction. I'm really trying to find the answer myself, but I keep finding the same possible "outs" that all don't apply to Niji.

The Doki case is different since the dispute would have gone the other way round and they would have sued her, which they had a variety of reasons not to by the way, not only jurisdiction questions. And if you remember, there were a lot of discussions of her possibly trying to sue and the same thing came up, it would be hard for her to sue in Canada without being challenged on jurisdiction. So in the end she didn't, again for a variety of reason, all of them apply to Twisty.

Relevant part in the contract that Twisty and Anycolor both agreed upon and signed:
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Employment laws and court practice are the evidence. There's no variety, she's 100% full exclusive employee.
What the fuck are you talking about, what does that have to do with the question of Jurisdiction? She signed a contract that stipulates where a dispute is to be held, I'm asking you for the reason that wouldn't apply.
 

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People saying to lawyer up, remember lawyers cost money and Twisty doesn't have much, and I doubt her paypigs could foot enough to get one. I can't see any lawyer worth anything doing work on this pro bono.
 

MerelyTourist

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Once again, you're going to have to spell it out for me what law overrides the contract she signed that specifies Japanese jurisdiction. I'm really trying to find the answer myself, but I keep finding the same possible "outs" that all don't apply to Niji.

The Doki case is different since the dispute would have gone the other way round and they would have sued her, which they had a variety of reasons not to by the way, not only jurisdiction questions. And if you remember, there were a lot of discussions of her possibly trying to sue and the same thing came up, it would be hard for her to sue in Canada without being challenged on jurisdiction. So in the end she didn't, again for a variety of reason, all of them apply to Twisty.

Relevant part in the contract that Twisty and Anycolor both agreed upon and signed:
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This doesn't mean jack shit. Employment laws of the country she reside in override whatever crap niji idiot lawyers wrote in their bullshit contract. Even if she gonna sue them in japan, judge can be compelled to use US employment laws.
What the fuck are you talking about, what does that have to do with the question of Jurisdiction? She signed a contract that stipulates where a dispute is to be held, I'm asking you for the reason that wouldn't apply.
Everything. Contract says "independent contractor" in the header, but terms do not qualify it as such. It's unquestionably full employment contract. Thus JP jurisdiction can kick can, it's completely irrelevant.
 

Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡

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Once again, you're going to have to spell it out for me what law overrides the contract she signed that specifies Japanese jurisdiction. I'm really trying to find the answer myself, but I keep finding the same possible "outs" that all don't apply to Niji.

The Doki case is different since the dispute would have gone the other way round and they would have sued her, which they had a variety of reasons not to by the way, not only jurisdiction questions. And if you remember, there were a lot of discussions of her possibly trying to sue and the same thing came up, it would be hard for her to sue in Canada without being challenged on jurisdiction. So in the end she didn't, again for a variety of reason, all of them apply to Twisty.

Relevant part in the contract that Twisty and Anycolor both agreed upon and signed:
View attachment 101406

What the fuck are you talking about, what does that have to do with the question of Jurisdiction? She signed a contract that stipulates where a dispute is to be held, I'm asking you for the reason that wouldn't apply.
Bro, you're arguing with Merely "Definitely not Nolan with a fake mustache" Tourist.
People saying to lawyer up, remember lawyers cost money and Twisty doesn't have much, and I doubt her paypigs could foot enough to get one. I can't see any lawyer worth anything doing work on this pro bono.
Couldn't a lawyer offer to carry the case and charge only if they win? Keep in mind, I'm not asking for a good lawyer.
 

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VSoyBoy

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This doesn't mean jack shit. Employment laws of the country she reside in override whatever crap niji idiot lawyers wrote in their bullshit contract.
Ok, that's you saying that, now show me why.
Genuine question man, I'm really trying to find out the reason the exclusive jurisdiction clause would be overridden but I can't, I need your help. Please.
Come on, I gave you enough chances to google it now, just give me a link or anything that provides a solid reason the clause would be invalid.
Even if she gonna sue them in japan, judge can be compelled to use US employment laws.
I didn't even bring this up, but now that you did I'm going to have to ask you to substantiate that as well. That one's on you.
Everything. Contract says "independent contractor" in the header, but terms do not qualify it as such. It's unquestionably full employment contract. Thus JP jurisdiction can kick can, it's completely irrelevant.
Another argument that has nothing to do with exclusive jurisdiction. Even if the contract is Employment, exclusive jurisdiction in the country that the business primarily operates in is still an option. You need to show me why it isn't here.
 

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She should sue because a lolsuit arc would be funny
 

MerelyTourist

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Couldn't a lawyer offer to carry the case and charge only if they win? Keep in mind, I'm not asking for a good lawyer.
Nah, i doubt anyone would take such case for portfolio. Too long and too international.
Ok, that's you saying that, now show me why.
Genuine question man, I'm really trying to find out the reason the exclusive jurisdiction clause would be overridden but I can't, I need your help. Please.
Come on, I gave you enough chances to google it now, just give me a link or anything that provides a solid reason the clause would be invalid.

I didn't even bring this up, but now that you did I'm going to have to ask you to substantiate that as well. That one's on you.
US law, as most countries in the world, state that employment terms and disputes fall under country of residence law. So if japlandian company hire employee living in commiefornia to work from home, they are technically obligated to follow every commiefornian labor board regulation and shit, in addition to basic US labor laws.
Another argument that has nothing to do with exclusive jurisdiction. Even if the contract is Employment, exclusive jurisdiction in the country that the business primarily operates in is still an option. You need to show me why it isn't here.
It could be an option indeed, but only if both foreign employee and judge agree to do so.
 

VSoyBoy

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Nah, i doubt anyone would take such case for portfolio. Too long and too international.

US law, as most countries in the world, state that employment terms and disputes fall under country of residence law. So if japlandian company hire employee living in commiefornia to work from home, they are technically obligated to follow every commiefornian labor board regulation and shit, in addition to basic US labor laws.

It could be an option indeed, but only if both foreign employee and judge agree to do so.
Fuck it, I asked the AI for you:
Is an exclusive jurisdiction clause, stating that Japanese law is governing law and that Tokyo district court has jurisdiction for any disputes over the contract, between a US employee, residing in the US, and a Japanese company, primarily doing business in Japan, valid?
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There we go, it's generally valid with few exceptions concerning specific worker protection laws.
So no, employment laws and disputes do not always fall under the country of residence.

All of it irrelevant since she doesn't have the money to even talk to a lawyer. Case closed.
 

JusticeDog

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This isn't really a clever plan and its the most likely explanation. She wants out. She's made it abundantly clear she wants out. Niji is effectively holding her career hostage, refusing to release her, but keeping her suspended, so she doesn't make any money. So, this is her way to force their hand. Doesn't require her to be smart, just manipulative and desperate.
She had already said before that she wanted to leave quietly instead of making a fuzz out of consideration for the good livers there. She's still showing a lot of restraint, like the very shortened Aster audio, but she definitely seems to be on the edge of nothing caring anymore.

Truthfully, with everything that's happened, her best bet is to get a lawyer involved and threaten Niji with a lawsuit. This suspension could count as workplace retaliation, which is straight up illegal, since its largely a response to her complaining about the sexual harassment. Not to mention that they didn't even investigate the initial complaint, which she could also sue them over. Even if NIji had the money to fight the case, that's bad PR they don't need right now. And no company wants to risk discovery. For a company like Niji, it would be devastating. She claims to have more receipts, including discord logs, messages to both staff and legal, and more to that recording of Aster, which, from the way she talks, is far more incriminating. Having all of that come out in a court case is not something that Niji wants. She probably has more than enough to simply force her way out of the contract at this point, or even argue that Niji's actions voided it. Considering how damning all of this is becoming, Niji will probably just let her walk in order to be done with it. The only thing is that if Twisty walks, Aster HAS to walk too, and probably at the same time. He's become too toxic to keep around, and the allegations against him are too damning to ignore anymore. If Twisty is terminated, Aster will have to be terminated at the same time, so that Niji doesn't look like their taking his side in the dispute. At this point, they can just fire him for cause, and be completely and legally in the clear.
A lawyer won't change anything. Remember they were trying to do the same thing to Doki by not allowing her to leave for almost 2 months even though she was using real money lawyers that knew what they were doing.

And the only reason they even let her out was their own incompetence of misunderstanding Doki's book of evidence as a threat to go public. If it wasn't for that, who knows how long they would have held her hostage for too.


This was Father's day weekend, she might have meant an actual family meeting. Wouldn't read too much into that specific tweet. :SelenHAHAhere:

This doesn't mean jack shit. Employment laws of the country she reside in override whatever crap niji idiot lawyers wrote in their bullshit contract. Even if she gonna sue them in japan, judge can be compelled to use US employment laws.
The law is irrelevant when one party has infinite money and the other has 0. Even if her lawsuit was 100% guaranteed to win, they could easily stall it for months and cost her tens of thousands of dollars. The jurisdiction issue alone could buy then weeks of back and forth arguing. :shiinasadbee:
 
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