Why would that be a problem?Ok, now i understand why she sounded bit "miffed" when Doki got Maru again as the Artist Mama
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Despite everything, I actually hope they all collab one day because that's really funny.
Curious as I am, I wouldn't want the talents themselves to be hurt in you leaking information.
But if you do decide not to leak information, don't be a fag and pop in every now saying "oh if only you KNEW how awful these corpos are." Either leak it or drop it.
If you were serious about keeping the information secret, you wouldn't even vaguepost about it.
You already want to share the information. What your conscience is looking for is the excuse that people on twitter and other platforms "asked" you to share the information.
When you share it, just take the responsability that you made that choice. I just hope, as others have told you on twitter that you talk to the talents first.
Proctor's posts got from cringe to gay and now speeding into advanced faggotry. Furry outing imminent. Potentially diaperfur.
I'm sorry if that's the impression I gave. I've always had a desire to talk about this stuff. In my opinion this and 95% of all the other things I've ever heard of ought to be fully public information, and that's what I tell everyone who speaks to me. This industry should not operate under a model that requires anyone to willingly choose to ignore wrongdoing and malpractice in exchange for continued access to services within it. It should never even be considered 'leaking' to talk about corruption, nepotism, abuse or any other such topic, but I don't make these silly rules.
you dont have to like them. you do have to participate in them atl east if you want the continued privilege to be privy to this kind of of shit.
I remember her talking about behind the scenes stuff with regards to V4Mirai. I'm actually going to go out on a limb and say that she confused the two companies which, fair LOL
Wait or was it V&U, it was that one V&U, FUCK all these names man
Welcome to the entertainment industry.
Because these companies are exploiting the dreams of (mostly) inexperienced young people, it's extremely difficult to bring about these kinds of changes. For every corpo vtuber, there are hundreds of talented girls who would kill to take her spot. The companies know this and it gives them a lot of power.
You aren't a lawyer, you don't really have any influence. You run a niche forum where we talk shit and sometimes aggregate some useful information. What do you have to offer here?
What are you expecting to happen if you leak this info? Most people are just going to think "Oh boy! That company sure was bad but at least it's gone now!" I sincerely doubt anything's going to change. Is that worth potentially destroying opportunities for the people who gave you that information in the first place? Shouldn't you give them the chance to make that choice? Sure, you can redact whatever you want, but there were only so many talents at Vreverie. If you're not careful, this could cause issues for all of them.
Be smart about this or you'll be stuck at the level of FalseEyeD. Desperate to have some sort of influence, but nothing more than a gossip rag in the end.
Being a gossip rag is why False has influence. That's why he gets invited to cohost at things like Filian's awards show and is accepted in all the mainstream circles. He knows exactly the same things that I do, probably far more, but simply chooses to filter it down into meaningless gossip that can never actually hurt anyone. If you notice, he only ever talks about things that are 'no shit, Sherlock' to people like us. He's the tabloid of vtubers, fully in the pocket of all the people he claims to be critiquing and exposing.
Is that the kind of influence you want, though? When I talk about wanting influence, I'm thinking about False's video on Eilene. He was desperate for that to have some sort of impact. To help her or get more attention, anything. He paid for Japanese subs on that video. It got less than 200k views and accomplished nothing. People talked about it for maybe a day and then forgot about it.
Do you want to cohost award shows and have famous friends? Another cog in the machine, scapegoating "the bad ones" so the industry can chug on unchallenged? Or do you want to make it so that people don't have to be afraid to expose corruption? To at least try to help break those "silly rules"?
I guess you don't know what you really want or what your values are. You just know that you should pretend to have them.
Do whatever you want, man. Idk what I was expecting LMAO.
I've not wavered from my principles from day one. I have no idea what made you look at my statements about False and go 'oh that's obviously what you want as well'. My values are freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and freedom of association. Those have always been the same and I have never wavered from them even when under an enormous amount of pressure.
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If the original agreement with the source was that the conversation was private, it's probably better in the long run to keep it that way. I don't say this from an either an ethical or legal perspective, since I don't doubt for a second you're sitting on tons of newsworthy material that's unarguably in the public interest; it's strictly a practical consideration. Other people who have valuable information, potentially missing puzzle pieces you need for other controversies, could easily miss the nuance on why you've publicised this, and won't trust you as a result of it.
If publishing what you have could prevent immediate life-changing abuse, then it's worth risking it. If it's anything less than that then you'd just be burning future opportunities for no reason - people aren't going to tell you about Crumbling Small Corpo #57 if they didn't like how you handled Crumbling Small Corpo #56.
If the original agreement with the source was that the conversation was private, it's probably better in the long run to keep it that way. I don't say this from an either an ethical or legal perspective, since I don't doubt for a second you're sitting on tons of newsworthy material that's unarguably in the public interest; it's strictly a practical consideration. Other people who have valuable information, potentially missing puzzle pieces you need for other controversies, could easily miss the nuance on why you've publicised this, and won't trust you as a result of it.
If publishing what you have could prevent immediate life-changing abuse, then it's worth risking it. If it's anything less than that then you'd just be burning future opportunities for no reason - people aren't going to tell you about Crumbling Small Corpo #57 if they didn't like how you handled Crumbling Small Corpo #56.
I might be encouraging you into something of a devil's deal but credibility and integrity trump's everything. Beyond Prurient interest, confidence is confidence and if none of the talents involved have gotten back to you, then this is one instance in which silence does not equal consent.
Despite the temptations to break open a complete shit-show as so many of these small agencies seem to be, The people that have approached you did so on the understanding that you would guarantee anonymity. At a bare minimum, I would wait longer for a reply and release only statements that have zero chance of being traced back to anyone in particular. Some of the talents may have aspirations to keep going or to apply to other agencies and it would be a disservice to accidentally black-ball them.
For what it's worth, in a community with as much concentrated autism as this one, I don't believe there's such thing as a statement that can't be tracked back to its source. People will closely compare talking points and speech patterns to off-hand comments made on streams, and use a process-of-elimination until they have an answer they're satisfied with.
Proctor has some very dedicated antis on /vt/. Over the past few days there has been a noticeable attempt to sabotage Megumi and Koinu's reputations by spamming shit about TVA in the Stellarverse threads. They will do the same thing to the ex-vReverie girls to spite the doxxxxfags, if they find ammunition to work with.
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Salmon debut as another person in a corpo, but her pl before that is Relia Lace. I don't know her new life is or the corpo.
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