Well you see. Unlike others, who are in it for creativity and money, like Cover. Anycolor is in it for just the money
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The Termination of Zaion LanZa
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Meanwhile, once again, Yagoo eats breakfast with his loving family then skips all the way to the bankI read news 2 days ago about the average subscribers of Japan Corpo Vtuber
VTuberグループ ぶいすぽっ！所属タレント17名の平均チャンネル登録者数で日本国内2位に浮上
VTuberグループ ぶいすぽっ！は2023年 (令和5年) 4月28日現在、所属タレント17名のYouTube公式チャンネルの平均登録者数が約35万706人を記録し、VTuber事務所・グループにおける平均登録者数において日本国内2位に浮上したことが判明しました。p2y.jp
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The total vtuber/avg subscriber:
Holo = 78/970k
VSPO = 17/350k
Nijisanji = 191/350k
I am not sure it is included the graduated on or not. But looking the average number, it says something about fucked up Nijisanji management and direction. Even VSPO has better performance than Niji
She spread it herself though so I doubt the 'no room mate discussion' factor matters here
We're eating good tonight boys, holy fuck.
This feels like a case of malicious incompetence, where they were probably trying to get her to quit of her own accord after the initial Genshin conflict (talking back to management is a red flag for such an authoritarian corporation) by generally making her experience as exhausting as possible, before eventually just giving up on plausible deniability and terminating her themselves.
The fact she was left in the red after picking up her debut costs herself is just more weight to something I've mucho texto'd about before, in that individual streamers hold little value to the company and are easily replaceable, similar to the 13-year-olds who were picked up by shady MCNs back in the day. This on its own is a take it or leave it kinda deal, but this doc confirming they're forced to cease all PL activity makes it an incredibly poor showing for the company, especially given other corpo streamers have entire separate careers outside of their corpo vtuber personas. Nijisanji offers less while asking for more.
This feels like a case of malicious incompetence, where they were probably trying to get her to quit of her own accord after the initial Genshin conflict (talking back to management is a red flag for such an authoritarian corporation) by generally making her experience as exhausting as possible, before eventually just giving up on plausible deniability and terminating her themselves.
The fact she was left in the red after picking up her debut costs herself is just more weight to something I've mucho texto'd about before, in that individual streamers hold little value to the company and are easily replaceable, similar to the 13-year-olds who were picked up by shady MCNs back in the day. This on its own is a take it or leave it kinda deal, but this doc confirming they're forced to cease all PL activity makes it an incredibly poor showing for the company, especially given other corpo streamers have entire separate careers outside of their corpo vtuber personas. Nijisanji offers less while asking for more.
With how cheap some food is in Japan, and small apartments, it makes sense how some streamers can just survive. Initial Holo "salary" might match current Niji if they have one. I don't think they do tho.
This is incredibly popular as a tactic in Japanese corpos and almost assuredly what happened here. In case anyone forgets, it is the same kind of tactic Konami pulled against Kojima when they wanted to get rid of him.
No, Cover is in it for the money, Hololive was meant as a means to promote their 3D tracking tech, but Cover seems to have a more humane internal culture and better sense.
Don't say that in front of Kson and Mikeneko.
well, okay let me reframe that
In it for creativity and money. They want money obviously, all companies do. But Yagoo has a vision, it’s not just about making money
This chart is almost meaningless. Niji somehow has worse performace than VSPO despite having over 10x as many talents as them with almost the exact same average sub count?I read news 2 days ago about the average subscribers of Japan Corpo Vtuber
VTuberグループ ぶいすぽっ！所属タレント17名の平均チャンネル登録者数で日本国内2位に浮上
VTuberグループ ぶいすぽっ！は2023年 (令和5年) 4月28日現在、所属タレント17名のYouTube公式チャンネルの平均登録者数が約35万706人を記録し、VTuber事務所・グループにおける平均登録者数において日本国内2位に浮上したことが判明しました。
View attachment 23654
The total vtuber/avg subscriber:
Holo = 78/970k
VSPO = 17/350k
Nijisanji = 191/350k
I am not sure it is included the graduated on or not. But looking the average number, it says something about fucked up Nijisanji management and direction. Even VSPO has better performance than Niji
Michael Cat has only herself to blame. Coco was a bad situation, but Cover panicking and flailing initially was kinda understandable.
It's almost as if uh, y'know, your talents won't form cliques and go after each other if they actually have enough time to get to know each other, and aren't just Vtuber #97/191.
This is the crux of it, pushing against your superiors/management in a lot Japanese companies is to put a target on your back. They were fairly obviously going out of their way to fuck with her, with the aim of either breaking her or forcing her to quit.
And that's why many of the other talents have gotten away with arguably worse violations, they don't second guess management and stay in their good graces.
Yes, you are right. It is only ~99% about making money. They are a publicly traded company.
I was making a joke saying they would disagree from their POV, not trying to imply I agreed with them. I can see it interpreted as the latter now that I look at it again, oops.
does it make a difference that, from what I recall , 20% of the company was put on the market and the rest wasn’t?
Rushia's implosion was self-inflicted but I think Cover were doing the malicious incompetence shit toward Coco too, I remember her allegedly being given the runaround when trying to make plans through the EN managers. I would not be surprised if they were just trying to get her to leave to get West Taiwan off their back, without having to explicitly fire her since that'd have awful optics for anyone living in a sane country.
If I'm remembering right, Japanese laws make it really hard to actually fire someone. Thus instead they just treat you like crap until you quit, or completely ignore you.
They even have a term for it: Oidashibeya or "the banishment room". Basically they give you an office out of view of everyone else and push off all the worst work they can on you on top of giving you zero support and treating you badly. Eventually, you'll slip up and be fireable or quit before you lose your mind.
They even have a term for it: Oidashibeya or "the banishment room". Basically they give you an office out of view of everyone else and push off all the worst work they can on you on top of giving you zero support and treating you badly. Eventually, you'll slip up and be fireable or quit before you lose your mind.
It's worse then that. Niji has people who never stream and some are famous for it. It's a totally useless chart. How many VSPO talents have a million subs?
Anyways, back to Zaion. Unlike Yugo or other grads, Zaions genmates turned against her. That annoys me because I thought maybe they had a difference in understanding the job. Now I feel the generates were just being company shills.
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