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Limkin

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 1, 2023
Elira was unironically big. As in, bigger than Pomu in terms of subs and CCV (not donations, though).
She got all the Holo haters because she was doing lots of karaoke, had nice voice and giant tits, but not into idols. Meanwhile Pomu was a huge idol nerd, and missed out on all the Luxiem boost by hanging out with Luca and not being openly fujoshi into femboys and toxic yaoi
 

CalciumAnimal

Drink Milk
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Elira was unironically big. As in, bigger than Pomu in terms of subs and CCV (not donations, though).
Elira being a Fat Whore (and the Fish too to be honest) aside Lazu was easily the most note they got outside of the home/fujo gooner market (don't do it don't numberfag me) good song decent talent (untill you realize at least one of them is a whore and two of them are assholes with some overlap) then Obsidia came and because of an excellent gimmick (these two talents are related) it drew in lazu fans to the new blood

I legit wonder how the world would be different if Selen was "sisters" with Pomu instead. niji three times its current size how horrifying.


That being said the cracks were forming. The Fish was always retarded and it was becoming increasingly hard to ignore genuinely malicious (i could mention a specific collab but fuck it viewers choice) Elira and Selen NEVER COLLABING directly was doing more harm then good Petra fucking off for collage (I think) and Rosemi keeping to herself (not that I blame her) made it pretty obvious that something was up

I would like to note that even before Selen's Negligible departure Lazulight were dropping like flies. The Fish was being openly mocked and avoided (by sane non gooner viewers anyway) and Elira while surviving did not escape unscathed from being forced to collab with selen where everyone could see how off it felt (though some did put that on selen which is fair without context I suppose)
 

addamelech

I draw touhous
Joined:  Jan 12, 2025
This is coming from absolute ignorance since I stopped following nijiEN closely since Pomu left.

I wonder if they have another source of income in streaming besides what they regularly do.

If viewership won't grow and superchats won't increase then it would be expected from them to stream less and less like what the TTT girls did.

But if they still stream to those low numbers then the people that are watching are the most loyal turbofans and might give them money outside of what youtube donations can see. Like private streams for the whales or discord private rooms or whatever, like Finana did that one time.
 

MerelyTourist

jkterjter jkterjtier
LM's Ladyboy
Joined:  Feb 5, 2024
I wonder if they have another source of income in streaming besides what they regularly do.
Most corpo chuubas have another (main) source of income, especially if they live in US/CA/EU/JP.
We weren't optimistic about corpo chuuba income in the first place, now we know for certain that even rich kurosanji subtract assets cost from talents cut. Some small jap corpos do the same, but also give talents 20-30% cut from youtube and nothing from merch.
 
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addamelech

I draw touhous
Joined:  Jan 12, 2025
Most corpo chuubas have another (main) source of income, especially if they live in US/CA/EU/JP.
We weren't optimistic about corpo chuuba income in the first place, now we know for certain that even rich kurosanji subtract assets cost from talents cut. Some small jap corpos do the same, but also give talents 20-30% cut from youtube and nothing from merch.
Do you mean another main job or another streaming related main job?

Because if I was Nijisanji and I'm seeing the viewership stagnating I know I will never have my own EN Suisei so, since I'm nijisanji and I'm evil, I'd grab my biggest superchatters and include them in a super sekkrit r18 club with NDAs to bypass the youtube cut and make the chubas stream exclusive yabai content for them and somehow expect it doesn't get leaked and the twisty leak thing might be a little peek
 

Zinnaha

Niji and Indie Simp
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
This is coming from absolute ignorance since I stopped following nijiEN closely since Pomu left.

I wonder if they have another source of income in streaming besides what they regularly do.

If viewership won't grow and superchats won't increase then it would be expected from them to stream less and less like what the TTT girls did.

But if they still stream to those low numbers then the people that are watching are the most loyal turbofans and might give them money outside of what youtube donations can see. Like private streams for the whales or discord private rooms or whatever, like Finana did that one time.
We also know from some Livers (and many other Vtubers back this claim up in general) that Vod Views/passive viewers are just as valuable than live CCV, sometimes even more because it persists past the actual stream. So they do infact have other jobs or incomes, some more famously than others, but low numbers doesn't mean too much other than numberfagging, because streaming to 100+ on YT alone, with good CTR, is still decent money.
 

Superduper Samurai

Well-known member
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Do you mean another main job or another streaming related main job?

Because if I was Nijisanji and I'm seeing the viewership stagnating I know I will never have my own EN Suisei so, since I'm nijisanji and I'm evil, I'd grab my biggest superchatters and include them in a super sekkrit r18 club with NDAs to bypass the youtube cut and make the chubas stream exclusive yabai content for them and somehow expect it doesn't get leaked and the twisty leak thing might be a little peek
why would they need to go through with incredibly PR harming plans when they can just coast by with the seemingly low overhead they have and still acceptable revenue from their whales. Or just downsizing all events.

Supa sekrit R18 productions exclusively for whales forced or encouraged by management in any corpo would be a very heavy scandal
 
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MerelyTourist

jkterjter jkterjtier
LM's Ladyboy
Joined:  Feb 5, 2024
As fun as this idea is to entartain, no amount of NDA and pre-vetting will stop it from leaking instantly (single digit minutes) and everyone in a corpo gotta be medically certified braindead to attempt that. Which means Wactor likely will do just that.
 

Awoogers

basic ass man who loves the british funny woman
Joined:  Jun 7, 2023

Zinnaha

Niji and Indie Simp
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
Supa sekrit R18 productions exclusively for whales forced or encouraged by management in any corpo would be a very heavy scandal
Especially because girls don't know how to behave and not fuck it all up when they choose to get closer to one person (or even date them if they're actually single), so yeah it's a landmine best avoided.
 

CalciumAnimal

Drink Milk
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Most corpo chuubas have another (main) source of income, especially if they live in US/CA/EU/JP.
We weren't optimistic about corpo chuuba income in the first place, now we know for certain that even rich kurosanji subtract assets cost from talents cut. Some small jap corpos do the same, but also give talents 20-30% cut from youtube and nothing from merch.
just want to add to this. Hololive probably has several internal ways talents supplement their income or at least covers some of the expenses to keep things smooth I think Phase and even Vshojo also do this to a much lesser degree
 

returntomonke

Unapoligetic sheep enjoyer
Joined:  May 5, 2023
I wonder if they have another source of income in streaming besides what they regularly do.
If they are not braindead, they should, Internet entretainment is fickle as fuck and betting you life on being a chuuba is a quick way to rely on foodstamps or go into debt (I'm looking at you twisty). The ones that hit it big do have their life done as long as they don't try to diddle a minor or do something utterly dumb, but for every successful content creator, there are hundreds or thousands more that can't reach 10 viewers.

Take Pomu as an example, she was a known wagie and if i remember correctly, her chat had to convince her for months to leave her job and go in 100% into being a chuuba it paid off and even when she left Niji she still makes a living out of being an anime girl online, as the other example look at the massive amounts of vtubers on twitter, Youtube/twitch, most of them won't be around next year.
 

Limkin

Well-known member
Joined:  Mar 1, 2023
her chat had to convince her for months to leave her job and go in 100% into being a chuuba it paid off and even when she left Niji she still makes a living out of being an anime girl online
She became OL to get insurance benefits for mastectomy and picked a company based on that. She also quit it because she never intended to actually work there, and only reason she hesitated was because her boss was very nice and always tried to connect with young employees by talking about things they are interested in. She even shared a story where after she explained to him what she is doing he also went "this sounds a lot more interesting than this job". No one needed to convince her to quit, it was her intention all along and no one tried to keep her there
 

CalciumAnimal

Drink Milk
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
She became OL to get insurance benefits for mastectomy and picked a company based on that. She also quit it because she never intended to actually work there, and only reason she hesitated was because her boss was very nice and always tried to connect with young employees by talking about things they are interested in. She even shared a story where after she explained to him what she is doing he also went "this sounds a lot more interesting than this job". No one needed to convince her to quit, it was her intention all along and no one tried to keep her there
thanks for posting this correction. Not every Vtuber is in a shit situation that needs chat to save them from she's an adult and handled it like an adult.
 

nooternun

(๑ 'ᆺ' ) Pfp is me IRL
Joined:  Mar 15, 2023
Well, this is a win but I'll post it here

Toru
Basically another anonymous" image board poster got caught and after sending an apology message they don't have to pay the 1 Million yen fine, instead paying a reduced fee.

2chan Gossip Forum info
"Apparently there are a lot of information flowing on Ari-Nichi thread and Sukikirai.com information
https://bbs.jpnkn.com/test/read.cgi/nijifunbbs/1740964472/1979 "This is the one who revealed Shii-chan's identity and photo of her face, right?"
https://bbs.jpnkn.com/test/read.cgi/nijifunbbs/1740964472/3533 "Shi-chan's real name, junior high and high school, and even his parents' faces were exposed."
https://bbs.jpnkn.com/test/read.cgi/nijifunbbs/1740964472/3695 "I guess that photo was the one myself... I thought there would be any Brazilian female college students everywhere."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115365 "Didn't you even get exposed to the graduates? Is it a family member?"
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115371 "You're family member when you've been exposed to your face, real name, and even your graduation album."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115458 "I guess it's 100% of the people who spread their face and real name on social media."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115811 "The information was excavated, not just in the past life, so the theory that it is within the family is suspected."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115812 "I saw a photo being posted on the thread."
Other then Toru's success I don't see any other reasons why people dislike her. No idea why this person linked to went so far either.


How do you link to 2chan anyways? Someone linked a past on so megadon is the archive site I guess?
NSFW links below - megalodon hentai ads.


have a mtl copy/paste for Nijifest summary
"NijiFest 2025 Summary
・90% of visitors are women
- Food waits for up to 7 hours, and served without toppings halfway through, and in DAY2, even if you line up at the first train, you can't eat it.
・DJ events are unpopular and rattle
・The black bikini used by Morinaka when he went to the night pool last year was displayed at the venue.
- Mystery Mito lifts up her skirt and shows off her panties
・There are no chairs or seats at the hero show, and the audience viewed on concrete ground
・It seems that a high-five event caused crowds to move as the crowd was pushed from behind, and some people fell over by pinching their feet on the sign.
・The audiovisual room was laid out for an hour due to problems with the venue
・Audio discrepancy occurs in some video due to connection reasons during Voltaction's live performance."

Also, sadly we are not on their radar... https://web.archive.org/web/20250301125725/https://dec.2chan.net/73/res/1775142.htm

"*How to properly search for overseas information
・Go check out reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/
https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/
・Go to see Futaba Channel's sister site
https://boards.4chan.org/vt/catalog
Overseas Narugami (FalseEyeD) https://youtube.com/@falseeyed
Rima Evenstar https://youtube.com/@rimaevenstar
Khyo (Khyo) https://youtube.com/@khyo I also look at the area casually
・Search on Twitter for the topics mentioned above
・See websites that also handle overseas information https://progress-official.jp/category/vtuber/
・Refer to legal explanations from lawyer LegalMindset https://youtube.com/@legalmindset
・Right-click in Google Chrome: Translate to Japanese or "Search image on Google → Translate"
Deepl ( https://www.deepl.com/translator ) ・Copy and paste the English text into"
 

Scoots

The Pontiff of PonWolf
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Likely unrelated to Niji but it made me laugh
 

JusticeDog

Well-known member
Joined:  Jul 3, 2024
Well, this is a win but I'll post it here

Toru
Basically another anonymous" image board poster got caught and after sending an apology message they don't have to pay the 1 Million yen fine, instead paying a reduced fee.

2chan Gossip Forum info
"Apparently there are a lot of information flowing on Ari-Nichi thread and Sukikirai.com information
https://bbs.jpnkn.com/test/read.cgi/nijifunbbs/1740964472/1979 "This is the one who revealed Shii-chan's identity and photo of her face, right?"
https://bbs.jpnkn.com/test/read.cgi/nijifunbbs/1740964472/3533 "Shi-chan's real name, junior high and high school, and even his parents' faces were exposed."
https://bbs.jpnkn.com/test/read.cgi/nijifunbbs/1740964472/3695 "I guess that photo was the one myself... I thought there would be any Brazilian female college students everywhere."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115365 "Didn't you even get exposed to the graduates? Is it a family member?"
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115371 "You're family member when you've been exposed to your face, real name, and even your graduation album."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115458 "I guess it's 100% of the people who spread their face and real name on social media."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115811 "The information was excavated, not just in the past life, so the theory that it is within the family is suspected."
https://suki-kira.com/p/96963/c/115812 "I saw a photo being posted on the thread."
Other then Toru's success I don't see any other reasons why people dislike her. No idea why this person linked to went so far either.


How do you link to 2chan anyways? Someone linked a past on so megadon is the archive site I guess?
NSFW links below - megalodon hentai ads.


have a mtl copy/paste for Nijifest summary
"NijiFest 2025 Summary
・90% of visitors are women
- Food waits for up to 7 hours, and served without toppings halfway through, and in DAY2, even if you line up at the first train, you can't eat it.
・DJ events are unpopular and rattle
・The black bikini used by Morinaka when he went to the night pool last year was displayed at the venue.
- Mystery Mito lifts up her skirt and shows off her panties
・There are no chairs or seats at the hero show, and the audience viewed on concrete ground
・It seems that a high-five event caused crowds to move as the crowd was pushed from behind, and some people fell over by pinching their feet on the sign.
・The audiovisual room was laid out for an hour due to problems with the venue
・Audio discrepancy occurs in some video due to connection reasons during Voltaction's live performance."

Also, sadly we are not on their radar... https://web.archive.org/web/20250301125725/https://dec.2chan.net/73/res/1775142.htm

"*How to properly search for overseas information
・Go check out reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/
https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/
・Go to see Futaba Channel's sister site
https://boards.4chan.org/vt/catalog
Overseas Narugami (FalseEyeD) https://youtube.com/@falseeyed
Rima Evenstar https://youtube.com/@rimaevenstar
Khyo (Khyo) https://youtube.com/@khyo I also look at the area casually
・Search on Twitter for the topics mentioned above
・See websites that also handle overseas information https://progress-official.jp/category/vtuber/
・Refer to legal explanations from lawyer LegalMindset https://youtube.com/@legalmindset
・Right-click in Google Chrome: Translate to Japanese or "Search image on Google → Translate"
Deepl ( https://www.deepl.com/translator ) ・Copy and paste the English text into"

Not surprised it's mostly women, but didn't expect it would be that high.
 

nooternun

(๑ 'ᆺ' ) Pfp is me IRL
Joined:  Mar 15, 2023
Not surprised it's mostly women, but didn't expect it would be that high.
Off topic but it's legit the reason the Stars languish, 90% of Holo fans must be Male. Watch the free portions from the last Fes and the Stars fans are mostly women. I wonder if the nosedive from NijiEN helped StarsEN at all...
 

Migoed Helmet

Unintentionally reuses words in every longpost
Joined:  Feb 29, 2024
Off topic but it's legit the reason the Stars languish, 90% of Holo fans must be Male. Watch the free portions from the last Fes and the Stars fans are mostly women. I wonder if the nosedive from NijiEN helped StarsEN at all...
I legitimately think Bettel won over a good chunk of Luxiem fans. My money's on the OG Luca/Mysta fans from 2022, Bettel does the "boyfailure" bit much better than those two and they dropped off the hardest out of Luxiem in 2023 IIRC.
 

White Stone

A literal white stone
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
I legitimately think Bettel won over a good chunk of Luxiem fans. My money's on the OG Luca/Mysta fans from 2022, Bettel does the "boyfailure" bit much better than those two and they dropped off the hardest out of Luxiem in 2023 IIRC.
I'm pretty sure Mysta even recommended his fans to check out Bettel before he graduated, instead of any of his branchmates.
 
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