Nijisanji L Collection

[JusticeDog]

Looking at /vt/, I'm seeing a lot of posters denying it could be Twisty and their reasoning is
I don't know, their counter-argument is also flimsy.
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The first point reminded me of a good time to rrat something up.

The messages were from mid September, meaning 9 months ago would have been mid December. That is just before all the shit started to happen, which would line up with the story of not knowing what they were really getting into.

If they had to quit their job (which I'm sure just means nuking their PL), that likely means they had signed their contracts already by then. If Niji considers their sign date as the expiration date, rather than the debut that was extremely delayed because of Selen, it means that there is a possibility that she and the rest of her wave could have the option to graduate like Vivi and Kunai did before the year ends.

If Twisty was already this burned out in September, she is likely even worse now. No one in their wave is taking part in the upcoming concerts, so there's no "obligations" that could delay their graduations as soon as the contract is up.

 

[Bug Eater]

Looking at /vt/, I'm seeing a lot of posters denying it could be Twisty and their reasoning is
I don't know, their counter-argument is also flimsy.
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Verifying the leak as real vs. verifying that the things she says are correct are two different issues, it's possible that the leak is real but she's mistaken or misspoke about some of the details. Personally I'm leaning towards Israel because I don't understand why someone would go to so much trouble to impersonate Twisty when they could make a leak of Elira calling Doki a fat cunt instead (which would be way funnier). As far as that post goes It's a waste of time to address each point individually, but just to show how disingenuous they are being - "Twisty's debut stream only had a short game made in RPG maker" - she commissioned starting and ending screens with live2D animation, other illustrations, emotes, badges, donation alerts, a stinger transition, and stream overlays. Source: her debut stream.

 

[Bronze]

If Twisty was already this burned out in September, she is likely even worse now. No one in their wave is taking part in the upcoming concerts, so there's no "obligations" that could delay their graduations as soon as the contract is up.

Her situation doesn't sound like she can just jump ship. Or she's convinced it's not at least. She might graduate eventually, but I'm unsure about it happening soon

 

[Smelliest007]

Verifying the leak as real vs. verifying that the things she says are correct are two different issues, it's possible that the leak is real but she's mistaken or misspoke about some of the details. Personally I'm leaning towards Israel because I don't understand why someone would go to so much trouble to impersonate Twisty when they could make a leak of Elira calling Doki a fat cunt instead (which would be way funnier). As far as that post goes It's a waste of time to address each point individually, but just to show how disingenuous they are being - "Twisty's debut stream only had a short game made in RPG maker" - she commissioned starting and ending screens with live2D animation, other illustrations, emotes, badges, donation alerts, a stinger transition, and stream overlays. Source: her debut stream.

Thank you for putting it into words my hungover brain couldn't fathom.

 

[God's Strongest Wardog]

Some users on this forum right now after Twisty may or may not be black:
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I feel sorry for Twisty, but I'm only racemixmaxxing with my retard princess Scarle.


Asster, I'm comin' to kill you, at Riku's yacht!

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Looking at /vt/, I'm seeing a lot of posters denying it could be Twisty and their reasoning is
I don't know, their counter-argument is also flimsy.
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• To be fair if she debuted 6 months ago (actually 5) while the leak said said she hasnt made any money in 9, 4 months into her Niji career it would still line up if she prepared to debut for 5+ months, either due to Niji or by her own volition. IIRC half a year is somewhat common for some corpo debuts. Due to how vtuber debuts could grab talent from previous applications in theory and applications not always being set debuts (i.e the retard who applied in december debuts in february) it could still line up unless she was hired after 3 months during the time they opened general applications on the 5th of January of 2024. Considering how Xsoleli and Iluna had 6 members while TTT had 3 (Heroes had the guy who left, so they ended up 3) its possible that they recruited Denuath and TTT at the same time or in quick succession from the same batches of applications.
• The leak didnt explicitly say they were forced to quit, the wording "told" could either mean forced like anon says or it could also mean that management went "oh you should quit your job" but never really enforced it.
• Isnt it pretty known that Nijis dont have active streaming PLs while most holos do random streams and even collabs on PLs once in a blue moon? i doubt Nijis are more busy than Holos, iirc the holostars boys just did one for the AI game before they got perms for it or some shit. Same for Lethal Company. Some of the music Nijis might have released covers under their PL but im not too sure.
• Her not having a known twitch account doesnt invalidate her having a personal one she never had an online footprint on beyond commentating or following streams.
• Her saying she'd rather kill herself rather than work a "real" job doesnt invalidate her having previous jobs out of necessity, and being miserable at them. Especially after she had started doing online content for a living.

 

[shipmate_F]

• Her saying she'd rather kill herself rather than work a "real" job doesnt invalidate her having previous jobs out of necessity, and being miserable at them. Especially after she had started doing online content for a living.

While it's funny to laugh at someone saying this, if it comes from experience it's the most understandable feeling any human being share. Retail is already bad, but there's worse jobs than retail (cleaning public spaces, for one). I even think that a mandatory year of retail work would do a lot for society.

They're not considering that she's a bit stupid and has yabbed multiple times in the past because she doesn't think before speaking or tweeting.
Even if you count it as circumstantial evidence, they're not seeing the forest for the trees, that is: Niji (and Riku, mainly) extorts all the shine of those talents until there's only coal left.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Looking at /vt/, I'm seeing a lot of posters denying it could be Twisty and their reasoning is
I don't know, their counter-argument is also flimsy.
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>Twisty debuted six months ago
She didn't sign on to Nijisanji at debut, all vtuber agencies have them hired before then
>Twisty is white
Proof? For all we know, she's a mulatto. Hating being one of their races is SUPER common among biracial people.
>Twisty said two days ago that she doesn't mind spending a hundred dollars on a shipping fee for merch
Again, proof? I looked up the transcript of her 2 streams on that day (the league stream and the buckshot collab with Daiya) and did not find a single line of her ever mentioning "shipping", "fee", and the one time she did mention "merch" was her saying she'd like ring merch so you could never take it off.
>Twisty's debut stream only had a short game made in RPG maker
It had an opening with a live2d animation, a transition animation, stream overlays, various art throughout her slides, an animated ojou board section, special karaoke mic in her design, and an ending with live2d animation. Live2d in particular isn't cheap.
>Multiple EN members had jobs when they debuted in Niji
Nice try, we already got confirmation from that voiceactor fag Cy Yu that Niji demands you to quit all other work when joining
>Twisty didn't stream before Niji
Who's to say she didn't start up a twitch channel to chat with a paypig while not being monitored by Nijisanji. It could have been her personal twitch account she uses to watch people on twitch.
>Twisty has had multiple jobs before
That has nothing to do with what she said. She said she'd rather die than get an actual job, which lines up with someone that has had to work miserable retail jobs and never wants to go back to that.
>Leak says Niji took away 90% of her first paycheck to pay off "assets". What the fuck does that even mean?
It means they're garnishing her wages. It sounds like they told her "yeah, you should definitely get all these assets commissioned for your debut, send us the bill, and we'll cover the cost!" only for them to turn around and start taking that out of her paycheck because in truth, they were only going to front the money and they obscured that fact so she would become indebted.

We already know NijiEN unironically gaslights their talents by telling them they're worthless and they'll never survive without the Niji brand based on what we've seen with Selen, Pomu, and now Vivi. They tell them to quit their other jobs so they're solely reliant on their NijiEN career to survive, just so they have better control. I'm betting their plan to "make changes so the Selen incident never happens again" that they promised is actually them making the talents even more reliant on Niji, like telling their talents to outright delete their PL accounts so they can't restart there. Unironically putting the talents in debt to them is logically the next step in a manipulative/abusive relationship. They are closing all escape routes for their talents and making them solely reliant on NijiEN while convincing them that if they leave, their career in the industry is completely dead. I guess they've learned its better to keep their talents as debt slaves than to bully them into depression because they might just kill themselves like Selen tried twice.

Conclusion: This poster is a retarded Nijisister.

 

[Style]

But that is purely a theory.

... A VTUBER THEORY!!

I'll see myself out

 

[Sankisei]

If Twisty really is something black why she doesnt just call Riku a Yamanba? is she stupid?

 

[Bug Eater]

>Twisty said two days ago that she doesn't mind spending a hundred dollars on a shipping fee for merch
Again, proof? I looked up the transcript of her 2 streams on that day (the league stream and the buckshot collab with Daiya) and did not find a single line of her ever mentioning "shipping", "fee", and the one time she did mention "merch" was her saying she'd like ring merch so you could never take it off.

It's a retarded comparison in the first place because she clearly stated the $100 figure was from her first paycheck, apparently at some point from May to June she posted a screenshot from her bank account where she had $5 to her name https://warosu.org/vt/thread/79071150#p79122463

In the present day it's not really relevant to her Niji income when she has whales who are gifting her $1000s directly via throne. Looking at her donations + what Sunny said about her Niji merch earnings, there's no way that Twisty is getting that kind of money from Niji. (I'd love to see the throne account but apparently she only ever shared it in Twitter replies)

 

[CalciumAnimal]

... A VTUBER THEORY!!

I'll see myself out

matt pat retired you have to wake up man your wife and kids miss you!

 

[Euthyphro]

Interesting that this Twisty Discord chatlog drops shortly before she has a big corpo collab:


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She's been collabing a lot with small corpos and Niji hasn't done anything to stop her, apparently. I would like to think this is her preparing a parachute should the time come (although if the September date is correct, then she'd already been acquaintances with all these corpo girls and weighed her chances of getting in).

 

[Seth]

Interesting that this Twisty Discord chatlog drops shortly before she has a big corpo collab:

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She's been collabing a lot with small corpos and Niji hasn't done anything to stop her, apparently. I would like to think this is her preparing a parachute should the time come (although if the September date is correct, then she'd already been acquaintances with all these corpo girls and weighed her chances of getting in).

Well its also their 6 month anniversary

 

[PemAloeKenzoku]

Based on what Vivi has said, it wouldn't surprise me if Niji didn't even remember who the fuck she is.

 

[Bronze]

Interesting that this Twisty Discord chatlog drops shortly before she has a big corpo collab:

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She's been collabing a lot with small corpos and Niji hasn't done anything to stop her, apparently. I would like to think this is her preparing a parachute should the time come (although if the September date is correct, then she'd already been acquaintances with all these corpo girls and weighed her chances of getting in).

She was also in the Crab game collab as Delulu Delaria. 2nd on the top left. Now I looked again, Sayu is there. That explains why she wasn't Twisty

 

[Kanna's Glowiest Assistant]

She's been collabing a lot with small corpos and Niji hasn't done anything to stop her, apparently.

The other Denauth members have also followed this route: A good chunk of Ryoma's streams are collabs with VSPO EN, other Brave group agencies and other small corpos in that order. Which makes sense, they carry no reputational damage from the Selen situation and it's the only way for them to get discovered by non-sisters, which like Twisty's DMs say is the only realistic way to grow their audience. Plus their numbers are comparable to those of small corpo chuubas lol, how the mighty have fallen.

 

[Pencilfreak]

Low tier Dramafag Salvi the blue squirrel released an interesting video, take it with a grain of salt
he alleges to have obtained discord and twitch chat messages from an alleged Nijisanji member
Catbox Archive: https://files.catbox.moe/5buuge.webm




It mainly details their woes and issues with how they act in the company, there is an extensive amount of screenshots posted, i already have the full video archived and currently looking for a way to just trim the relevant Nijisanji bit and uploading it to streamable or catbox

Holy shit. If this part of the leak is true in these screenshots, my god Aster really needs Jesus.

 

[21st Century Pipkin Man]

I thought it over, and it makes sense that a company like Nijisanji would be covering up for the last section of their talents that makes them any money - the lads. I'm locking in full purchase of all NijiEN males' rrats.