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Smelliest007

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somehow i doubt things have improved that markedly since Feb if there were atleast 3 graduations (Kunai, Vivi, Hex) and the first two have talked about various feelings and wierd niggles they had to be under. I know he says its not related to recent events but this recent thing is also something that had been brewing for months in the rumor mill.

The video itself just compares vtubing to a regular jobs and kinda smugs about his recent twitter posting, while smugly saying that his old restaurant job was worse than vtubing management can ever be, he also takes time to complain about that one comment with no likes that was wrong about him Tax evading

Luxiem has kept on trucking with their current fanbase even when they lost the general like they had from random clips here and there. And to pickup a rrat many where talking about in the Holo thread, Maybe they really do get special treatment compared to everyone else, the wierd nags like Scarle being missing and having Fulgur's PL talk for her and reassure twitter wouldnt happen under a competent mangement. I honeslty think this video wasnt that reassuring about current Niji and more smugging about his recent twitter spats.

Then again, i think Kuro is a bit of a tard, so maybe someone with less bias can express an opinion on this
Michi needs to tard wrangle his ass already.
 

Zinnaha

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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
Every time I see someone noticing a particular liver went missing from streaming (Kotoka) or announced a hiatus for any reason (Fulgur, Petra and Ver), it always leads me to the graduation tax rrat which seems to be mentioned on /vt/ often but not here. Any thoughts on it?

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None of the JP graduates mentioned it and like some of the English ones, they heavily reference stuff without saying it directly. The only thing ever said directly was if you were given anything (i.e a computer) that has to be returned.
So while on a base level it would make sense as a workaround, the ones who barely stream (aside Kotoka) have actual excuses for not doing so since like in Hololive, they do background work a lot more than stream. Kotoka just backed off from the limelight after the Mel situation.
 

Dispirited Helmet

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This clause, even if it existed in any signed contracts, is utterly unenforceable in any jurisdiction.

No, it was there.



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Alright, guess I get to go back and go through the contract myself, then. I don't trust /vt/ or you to actually read shit.


Article 17: Penalty
  1. In the event that Party B falls under the following items, Party A may demand from Party B a penalty equivalent to 50% of the amount of the Consideration, stipulated in article 4, paragraph 1, item (i), of the month preceding the month in which the date of the relevant event falls.
  2. In the event that Party B falls under any of the items set forth in the preceding article, paragraph 1
  3. In the event that Party A terminates this Agreement (including the Individual Agreement in this Article) due to a reason attributable to Party B in accordance with the provisions in this Agreement.
  1. Notwithstanding the provisions in the preceding paragraph, in the event that Party B breaches the provisions in Article 15, paragraph 4, Party A may demand a penalty from Party B up to the higher of the following amounts.
  1. The amount equivalent to the total amount of the Consideration received from Party A pursuant to the provisions in this Agreement or the Individual Agreement during the period when the Party B was in breach of Article 15, Paragraph 4.
  2. The amount equivalent to the total amount of the Consideration received by Party B from Party A based on the provisions in this Agreement or the Individual Agreement for the 12 months prior to the month in which the Second Party was found to be in breach of Article 15, Paragraph 4 or Article 15, Paragraph 5.
  3. The total amount of remuneration for activities related to the said violation and any other money obtained by Party B [rom activities related to the said violation, regardless of the nominal.
  1. Notwithstanding the provisions in the paragraph 1, in the event that Party B breaches the provisions in Article15, paragraph 5, Party A may demand a penalty from Party B up to the higher of the amounts set forth in the Preceding paragraph, item (2) or item (3).
  2. The provisions of the preceding three paragraphs shall not preclude Party A from claiming compensation from Party B for damages in excess of the penalty amount specified in the preceding three paragraphs.

Article 4 Consideration, Paragraph 1 section 1
  1. The consideration of the Distribution of the Contents: 50% of the amount paid to and actually received by Party A with respect to the Distribution of the Contents

Preceding Article (article 16, Suspending Vtuber Activities, etc.) paragraph 1:

  1. In the event that Party B falls under any of the following items, Party A may suspend the Party B’s participation in the Program without needing prior notice from Party A.
  2. In the event that Party B breaches any of the provisions of this Agreement or the Individual Agreement.
  3. In the event that it is discovered that there is a falsehood in the Information provided under the provisions of Article 7, Paragraph 1.
  4. In the event that Party B has conducted or attempted to conduct activities in accordance with the Program in a manner or for a purpose that may cause damage to the user, the External Service Providers, or other third parties.
  5. In the event that Party B is unable to receive the service trom the External Service Provider due to violation of the external terms of use or other reasons.
  6. In the event that Party B interferes with the operation of the Program regardless of the method.
  7. In the event of death of Party B, or in the event that Party B is subject to commencement of guardianship, conservatorship or assistance.
  8. In the event that Party B does not conduct the Distribution of the Contents for more than (1) month and does not respond to any communication from Party A.
  9. In the event that Party B is a minor, an adult ward, a person under curatorship, or a person under assistance, and has not obtained the consent of a legal representative, guardian, curator, or assistant to enter into this Agreement.
  10. In the event that Party A determines that the continuation of the VTuber activities by Party B is Inappropriate, in addition to what is provided for in the preceding items.

Article 15, Prohibited Actions, Paragraph 4 and 5:
  • During the effective term of this Agreement or the Individual Agreement, other than the Distribution of the Contents, Party B may not distribute the Images, Etc. ()including but not limited to video distribution in the video hosting services and audio distribution in the audio hosting services) as a distributor of the Images, Etc. (including but not limited to VTuber and any other video distributor) without prior written consent of Party A.
  • For a period of six (6) months after the end of this Agreement (or after the end of the Individual Agreement if the end of this Agreement is during the effective period of the Individual Agreement), Party B may not distribute the Images, Etc. (including but not limited to video distribution in the video hosting services and audio distribution in the audio hosting services) as a VT uber for a third party without the prior written consent of the Party A.

The definitions for "Images" laid out in Article 15 paragraph 1 and referenced in paragraph 5:
  1. images, Etc. that infringe or may infringe the intellectual property rights, portrait rights, rights of privacy, rights of honor, economic trust, or other rights or interests of Party A, the External Service Provider, or other third parties.
  2. Images, Etc. that are related to criminal acts or violation of Public order and morality.
  3. Images, Etc. that are obscene or harmful to youth
  4. Images, Ete. that contain child pornography
  5. Images, Ete. for the purpose of sexual intercourse, heterosexual intercourse, dating, etc.
  6. Images, Ete. that induce dangerous behavior such as drinking, drug use, abuse, etc.
  7. Images, Etc. that induce harassment or bullying of a third party
  8. Images, Etc. that contain discriminatory remarks or hate speech.
  9. Images, Ete. that violate this Agreement, individual agreements, external terms of use, laws and regulations, or the internal rules of the organization to which the Party A or VTuber belongs by being broadcast, wired broadcast or publicly transmitted.
  10. Images, Etc. in which the user does not have the right to use and in which the user has not obtained permission to use from the right holder.
  11. Images, Ete. that are in violation of the Public Offices Election Law.
  12. Images, Etc. that may cause trouble or discomfort to a third party.
  13. Images, Ete. in which confidential information of the Party A is posted.
  14. Images, Etc. in which the location of the Party B's residence, place of work, location of facilities managed by the Party A, or other information that can be inferred is posted.
  15. Other Images, Etc. that Party A deems inappropriate.

Article 20: Termination
  1. In the event that any of the following events arises with respect to Party B, then, without needing any kind of notice from Party A whatsoever, Party A may terminate this Agreement (including the Individual Agreement in this Article):
  2. In the event that Party B breaches any of the provisions of this Agreement, and does not ‘cure such breach for a reasonable period of time:
  3. In the event that Party B receives a seizure; provisional seizure; provisional’ disposition, etc. or a disposition for tax delinquency, a petition for a compulsory auction, etc.;
  4. In the event that there is an application for commencement of procedures for bankruptcy, corporate arrangement, or civil rehabilitation, commencement of procedures for corporate reorganization, or commencement of special liquidation, etc., or in the event that there arises any circumstances that gives rise thereto;
  5. In the event that there is an act of betrayal against Party A or an act against public order and morals, etc. and Party A determines that it is unreasonable to continue the contractual relationship.
  6. In the event that a check or bill is dishonored, or there is a situation such as payment suspension, etc.;
  1. In the event that Party A terminates this Agreement pursuant to the provisions of the preceding paragraph, Party A may demand that Party B deliver the deliverables that have been completed or are in the process of being completed by the time of such termination.
  2. The exercise of the right of termination pursuant to paragraph 2 shall not preclude the exercise of the right of Party A to make a demand against Party B for compensation of damages.

Kurosanji google doc link to contract, enter at your own risk

The section of the lawyer leak stream where he talks about penalties:



It's 50% of what the v-tuber got from Anycolor the month prior to their suspension. Or rather, the month prior to whatever got them suspended. This is honestly worse than a graduation tax, I'd bet it's been enforced on talents that have stayed with Niji through their suspension. Millie's 4-chan stream suspension comes to mind.

The v-tuber ONLY has to pay back up to 12 months of pay if they were suspended for "distributing images" (so, a stream, video, screenshots, but NOT personal communications) that broke the law, violated intellectual property, doxxed people, and so on without Anycolor's consent for six months after working for Anycolor. Not only is this wholly and completely unenforcable, the only person who has actually gotten terminated for this was Selen and Anycolor was very obviously not able to get through her lawyers. Seems to be more for stealing income from people who were streaming on the side while in the company, I 100% guarantee Niji used this to get all of Hana's Fansly money.

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So yeah, no graduation tax. I assume /vt/ has been playing a game of telephone about what's actually in this contract.
 

Seth

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Realistically, twisty will probably get fired. Not necessarily because of the aster issue but because of everything she has said in the screenshots. She technically "leaked" a lot more than aster being a sexpest.
 

Zinnaha

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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
Realistically, twisty will probably get fired. Not necessarily because of the aster issue but because of everything she has said in the screenshots. She technically "leaked" a lot more than aster being a sexpest.
Also if that is Twisty, she's shown to be racist as well, which xenophobia or not, that reflects poorly on a company with international dealings.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Also if that is Twisty, she's shown to be racist as well, which xenophobia or not, that reflects poorly on a company with international dealings.
I was going to bring up Uki as a counterargument but then I remembered people don't get in trouble for being incredibly racist towards white people.
 

CalciumAnimal

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Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
can someone spoon feed me who twisty is I'm fucking stupid and forgot and can't pretend to know any longer it's tearing me apartttttt.

Edit: twas a joke guys common.
 
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Smelliest007

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can someone spoon feed me who twisty is I'm fucking stupid and forgot and can't pretend to know any longer it's tearing me apartttttt.
No, do your reps.
 

Hff201

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can someone spoon feed me who twisty is I'm fucking stupid and forgot and can't pretend to know any longer it's tearing me apartttttt.
She's a Nijisanji streamer.

I've just narrowed it down to half the population, you can do the rest on your own.
 

Clown Penis

Dizzy "Elf Pride Worldwide" Dokuro
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Guys i think we should close this thread :BijouBijou:
There is clearly nothing worth to talk about
I concur.

Absolutely nothing has happened in 2024 for Negrosanji and nothing will.

Close the thread immediately!

:dokiwheeze:
 

Superduper Samurai

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Genshit Impact dramafag turned vtuber dramafag Muujin has posted a summary of the Aster debacle, its not very good, and he is pretty much a parasite trying to grift off Nijisanji drama ever since Selen almost offed herself, but its one of the larger creators shining a pretty large spotlight on the drama, it has gotten almost 200k views in 7 hours




On Unrelated news, they are funnily re-running a winter voicepack that features Aster

 
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BlacklistedAloupeep

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Todd's Strongest Howard

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Realistically, twisty will probably get fired. Not necessarily because of the aster issue but because of everything she has said in the screenshots. She technically "leaked" a lot more than aster being a sexpest.

The ideal, realistic outcome is that both she and Aster get terminated; she gets tossed for the leaked info but Aster gets tossed for being a sex pest. In the end it would be a net gain for her because the attention she'll get for suicide bombing a sex pest will draw people interested in seeing what she's about and she'll go back to an unrestricted situation where she doesn't have to abide by corporate rules, which is something she complains about in those screenshots.

It'll personally be very funny to me though if she gets axed and then has no rebound because despite being only 25% black she has 110% negroid spirit in that she'd rather die than get a real job and this attitude is the most "female of 2024" mindset ever. Better be ready to engage the cockslot, because the only other way you're getting out of needing to find work is to whore out or latch onto the first man willing to pay your way through life and just be his personal sleeve.
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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can someone spoon feed me who twisty is I'm fucking stupid and forgot and can't pretend to know any longer it's tearing me apartttttt.

Edit: twas a joke guys common.
This but unironcally

No I won't read any answers. Dead bitches tell no tales

:robertudrink:
 

Hff201

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On Unrelated news, they are funnily re-running a winter voicepack that features Aster


It's interesting that it's a reissue rather than new material; if it were the latter you could write it off as unfortunate timing, but they could've just delayed or pulled this one last-minute barely anyone would have noticed.

I unironically believe his voice pack has been included intentionally here to test the waters, and the sales figures will influence if he stays or goes. We've seen in the past that Nijisanji aren't willing to let pesky things like morals or optics get in the way of their business decisions, and this is a good way to see if he's still financially viable post-allegations.
 

Superduper Samurai

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i forgot if i asked but how long did it take them from privating Last Cup of Coffee to Selen shoah? 25th of December to early February?

I have a feeling this will drag on for a bit
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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i forgot if i asked but how long did it take them from privating Last Cup of Coffee to Selen shoah? 25th of December to early February?

I have a feeling this will drag on for a bit
Yes, it was privated on Christmas day and then she was terminated on February 5th. That was actually accelerated. She sent them a collection of documents with various info, detailing her grievances, and trying to convince them to let her graduate amicably. They misinterpreted it as a threat that she was planning on taking legal action against them so they immediately terminated her.
 

Todd's Strongest Howard

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Yes, it was privated on Christmas day and then she was terminated on February 5th. That was actually accelerated. She sent them a collection of documents with various info, detailing her grievances, and trying to convince them to let her graduate amicably. They misinterpreted it as a threat that she was planning on taking legal action against them so they immediately terminated her.

Have they tried hiring someone that can read and speak English so-

Oh right, they did, Elira. Nevermind. :ironmousekek:
 

Superduper Samurai

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False dropped another video where more than half the length is about Niji topics

 

JusticeDog

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I unironically believe his voice pack has been included intentionally here to test the waters, and the sales figures will influence if he stays or goes. We've seen in the past that Nijisanji aren't willing to let pesky things like morals or optics get in the way of their business decisions, and this is a good way to see if he's still financially viable post-allegations.
Second only to Twisty, Aster was the lowest earner in the branch for November.
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(Stolen from reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/NijiStatistics/s/K5xzekICTf )

So if that's what they're trying to do here, I don't think it's going to work in his favor. :smugselen:
 
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