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Longer clip here (29 minutes) and time stamped accordingly.
One takeaway I had from that convo is that Niji doesn't have any idea what to do with streamers who don't want to do the idol stuff.
For the few musically inclined, they have the standard Lives into 3D Lives and covers to original singles to albums etc. but if you don't care about that stuff you're SOL.
They're not going to help you get sponsorships with vpn brands, or gamersupps, or hellofresh (is that still a thing) or whatever FOTM company that drains their VC funds to blow on streamers.
And now nobody from the other small/mid corpos want to deal with them or their bureaucracy either.
Other cases: Salome, and Lunlun from their recent JP gens (kyubey lookin' thing).

This is also somewhat about misaligned expectations though. The NijiEN retirees are all, at the very least, ambitious. They're pushing for projects, pushing for new drops, stretching their collabs etc. Same could be said about uh, Randon I guess?
Some of the OG Niji streamers just pick a lane, some game genre or series, and will probably stream that shit until vtubing collapses.
That's what I feel like Nijisanji expected their EN division to be.

Kuro/Matara - their goal is obviously for streaming to be their job and Niji doesn't have a pipeline for that so you'll be a fucking temp foreign contractor for the rest of the your life.
The smart way is to form an LLC, but good fucking luck getting Japs to play ball.

Some of the OG Niji streamers just pick a lane, some game genre or series, and will probably stream that shit until vtubing collapses.
There's also a piece here about the costs of living as a young adult in NA vs JP, but that's too complicated to get into.

I was thinking about how good VSPO's recruiting is. Like, these chicks are seriously into their video games.
And they got Sendou Yuuhi, barely 5 months out of debut, co-streaming rights for LoL Worlds. That's agency support. Niji probably wouldn't even buy you RP.
 

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I watched the video. One part that made me mad that Aze just briefly mentioned is that he repeatedly brought out the whole "she's not going to fuck you just because you sent her a superchat" line that vtuber haters and tourists throw at us. It infuriated me to think that someone who was a veteran of the industry at the highest levels could say such a thing. Does he think all the people who sent him money back in Niji - or now for that matter - were doing it because they wanted to hop on his tiny pecker? What a fucktarded thing for someone in his position to say. I've been mostly ambivalent about the guy since his graduation but now I see he was always a snake and he can't be allowed to come crawling back to the industry if whatever bullshit he's doing in his fleshsuit doesn't work out.
I left it out because in a way I do agree with him. He got a shit-ton of hate over being somewhat close to Enna.

Although now that you point it out, he clearly is using it as a shield to hide behind.

Ex-Hex has his debut right now.

Any good? What were the numbers?

He's always been a snake. Comparing Mysta/Kuro to Kyo/Quinn is a very interesting little thought experiment that really shows how Quinn operates IMO.

So Mysta is a member of Luxiem, right? These guys debut, and no one really knows what to expect with male EN talents at the time. I had certainly underestimated the untapped fujo market when they debuted, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that Mysta didn't sign up for or enjoy the sheer amount of (dare I say it) objectification he got, from some of the most demented fans in the space no less. His co-workers embrace it to varying degrees, Mysta tries to stick with his fujo fanbase for a while but it's just NOT working and is interfering with the content he wants to make, so he starts calling out his "fans" and eventually dips because of them. One of the first things he does in his post-Niji career is to set hard ground rules that weed out Luxiem fujos and fem-icorns, and makes it clear in no uncertain terms that he hated those fans and does not want them around anymore.

Kyo, on the other hand, comes in as a male member of Iluna. Not only did he have time to see the Luxiem effect in action prior to his audition, much less debut; he has also been privy to the debut of Noctyx and all the faggery that went into the debuts of their v-tubing careers (Iluna auditions were after Noctyx debut). Not only that, one of his genmates is the biggest fujo-baiting sexpest in Niji, one Aster Arcadia. He has every chance to

-not audition if he is bothered by the possibility of unicorns

-set ground rules in the first days of his debut which discourage toxic fans from becoming part of his fanbase

-quit/get himself fired before debut, like that one guy who leaked models (or Grimmi :cursedbae:)



Instead, knowing the exact environment he would be entering, he auditions for Iluna, which ends up being one of the bigger debut flops in v-tubing history. He did not expect to flop, because no one on the Niji side expected Iluna to flop for some reason. Not only is he doing terribly, every male in his gen is a disappointment compared to those who came before him. What does he do? He slides into Enna's DMs, and starts hanging out with people who we now have reason to suspect are in the good graces of Anycolor management. He does weird shit that is OBVIOUSLY going to piss people off, like holding Enna's hand on stream for no reason other than to bait people. He does this at every opportunity, in fact. However, while he bitches at "parasocial" and "inappropriate" Aloupeeps and Scarlings every other stream, he knows which side his bread is buttered on. For example, he had a whole "confession" stream where underage girls and gay men send him inappropriate messages. The best he does to discourage his own fanbase is say "chat, you gotta chill". There is no mask off moment, Kyo had entire streams catered to these people both before and after this one. But DAMN KYO GOTTA GET DAT MONEY IT ROUGH IN DA HOOD :nehgah:


Oh, what's that? Things getting rough in ol' Niji? Your gen underperforming financially? Aw shit, KYO GOTTA GO GET MILK. If we're assuming a few months of lead-up prior to the actual graduation announcement being made, he may well have made his decision to graduate right around when Youtube started cracking down on Vox and the fujo fanbase by removing ASMR. He certainly didn't do it because of rampant management abuse of Livers such as Zaion or Selen; his graduation timing was way off for that. He was never interested in pushing big projects through that were getting cucked, like Selen was with tournaments or Maria is with idol music. He was always just coasting by, doing nothing but showing up in a bunch of collabs that other people planned and playing FOTM games, never pushing the envelope and expecting money to fall from the sky. And after forcing myself to watch his little rant, he hasn't changed in the slightest. For all his bitching and moaning, if the money was still in pandering to deluded chinese women and western sexpests, he would still be in Niji sucking up to Enna. Instead he's focused on pandering to his more profitable normie audience.


Maybe if he were in Niji he'd still be occasionally dropping little :unsure: tidbits like when he bitched at an Aloupeep and said "She doesn't want you either." Funny how things like that come out weird sometimes, hm? Hmmm??


You know, on second thought, calling Quinn a snake is too good for him. I like Bae, so I'm hesitant to call him a rat either. Kyo is more of a slug. Completely unappealing in mind, body, and personality, while oozing sludge everywhere for others to clean up. He's done nothing since graduating except get hit in the balls and complain about v-tubing. Fuck him, the femboy can go chase the latest trend and leave us alone.

EDIT: OH LO AND BEHOLD HE'S ALSO HANGING AROUND IN KURO'S STREAM BEFORE MATARA WAS. fucking leech puts eviltoaster to shame :thatsracist::pikafaku:

EDIT2: I was wrong, it was a character AI Kuro was fucking with and I didn't double check it, my shame shall be eternal
interesting post, i somewhat agree with it.

There is Mysta's merch from 2022 June on sale listed in their shop. Yugo's from August. Nina's from October. Pomu's from November. A LOT of Pomu's merch is still available in fact. Kunai's debut merch is still on the shop. Selen seems to be wiped from the shop even in older group merch, just photoshopped out of it.
Do keep in mind, you can not order individual product if it was promoted as a group merch but everyone is sold separately. However if it is sold as a bundle or merch has all members in the same item you can still buy it even if they are graduated. And I don't see a situation where they get a cut out of it
They would still be selling Selen's merchendize if they didn't want to memoryhole her. Because they fucking did sell it for months after she was fired
Pretty sure they only got rid of the Selen merch when people started shitting on them. Hell the same day of her announcement

I went to check and Millie's fat retarded ass lost her 500K
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Its such a fucking shame it ended up like this. So much wasted potential.

Anyone have any idea if this Kaiyo guy was a PL?, probably not but r/Kurosanji seems to think its Hex/Kyro Cifer, he doesnt seem to be because Hex just redebuted yesterday


At most i searched his name here and found he had beef with Kirsche
Dude is a Chinese literal femboy who is basically a budget Uki and appeals to the same retarded crowd. He tried to shit on Kirsche at some point for something she said. I think he was calling her a nazi or some shit. Typical cali-femboy behavior.
 

Zyklon Mag

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A couple of dudes from (literally who?) Avallum/FSP managed to get a 3D sooner than most of Yamanbasanji. Imagine joining one of the largest vtubing agencies in the world and THESE people get their 3D much faster in their career.:selenpointandlaugh:At this rate, VAllure is gonna have all their girls with 3D sooner lol
 

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At this rate, VAllure is gonna have all their girls with 3D sooner lol
I mean, it works for Melody?

:coomer:

Look forward to the horrors of the VAllure whores taking giant dildos in 3D.
 

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I mean, it works for Melody?

:coomer:

Look forward to the horrors of the VAllure whores taking giant dildos in 3D.
Watch it somehow be less sexy than those perverts making shitty 3D vtuber porn.
 

Murrayしないで

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A couple of dudes from (literally who?) Avallum/FSP managed to get a 3D sooner than most of Yamanbasanji. Imagine joining one of the largest vtubing agencies in the world and THESE people get their 3D much faster in their career.:selenpointandlaugh:At this rate, VAllure is gonna have all their girls with 3D sooner lol

To be fair, FSP is somewhat sizable in the JP market and is part of the REALITY Studios brand with a couple other agencies (including Specialite), so FSP EN didn't start out entirely without experience and resources behind it.
 

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Awoogers

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A couple of dudes from (literally who?) Avallum/FSP managed to get a 3D sooner than most of Yamanbasanji. Imagine joining one of the largest vtubing agencies in the world and THESE people get their 3D much faster in their career
And this even with them having new 3D studio for it.

I have this belief that they really wanting to make everything in-house instead of relying from outside help (like Cover usually do) and it essentially makes everything slow due to the pressure on creating special assets/3D model of almost 100+ vtubers on their rosters. Combined with the long queue + having to do with other things like existing talents with 3D models needing more assets for special occasions + other things that we don't know, it kind of make sense that they ended up lagging behind if compared to other agencies that probably have enough shit together to make 3D models without issue.
 

Smelliest007

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like anyones gonna buy that shit after she left lol the remaining fanbase hates her
And the Nina fans who didn't go to Vshojo probably left entirely.
 

Awoogers

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And the Nina fans who didn't go to Vshojo probably left entirely.
probably the ones who thought shed go back to monkeyism either converted to other chuubas or just left for good
 

Superduper Samurai

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Stolen from r/Kurosanji, Aia Amare of NijisanjiEN's streams for the month of September have all been demonetized
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Awoogers

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even if its someone like aia thats got to hurt man
 

Limkin

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Stolen from r/Kurosanji, Aia Amare of NijisanjiEN's streams for the month of September have all been demonetized
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She didn't get the subtle hint that she was fired so Niji turned off her monetization. They will never say she got fired, because she will still show up for work but never ask to be paid.
 

El Rrata

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After reading all the Quinn stuff, I've just gotta say that Gura was right about him.
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Clown Penis

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And this even with them having new 3D studio for it.

I have this belief that they really wanting to make everything in-house instead of relying from outside help (like Cover usually do) and it essentially makes everything slow due to the pressure on creating special assets/3D model of almost 100+ vtubers on their rosters. Combined with the long queue + having to do with other things like existing talents with 3D models needing more assets for special occasions + other things that we don't know, it kind of make sense that they ended up lagging behind if compared to other agencies that probably have enough shit together to make 3D models without issue.
They just need to make all but the most popular organs graduate. Then their problems are solved!

Well there's that and their organizational culture of doing everything as cheaply as possible (Nijisisters have minimal, negligible even, standards). I guess if anyone can nigģerrig a 3D setup out of a small unit of illegals or homeless holding cameras in California, believe that Niji will be the ones to do it.

:rikutazumi:
 
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