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nooternun

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Joined:  Mar 15, 2023
Some of them yes. I dont believe for a second all the remaining nijifans watch elira. Or even half of them.
You can't have it both ways. Either Elira, Vox and Ike are brand defining or they are not. This is some VT logic. You gonna sacrifice Kotoka too?

This is an exercise in futility, Nijisanji isn't looking to change. I think more Meloco, Kotoka and Klara's would help. Obviously NijiEN has poisoned the general EN well so pivoting to JP/EN would be best. Especially if they can get some guys like Axel or Kuga Leo but ESL instead of JSL aussies. General EN talents will go to the many other companies and Niji could return years from now.
 

Superduper Samurai

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I think Niji is somewhat unpredictable and such a fall was kinda unprecedented since they're the first big EN corpo to constantly stumble so its kinda hard to entirely predict what will happen next for the branch or its talents
 

MerelyTourist

jkterjter jkterjtier
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Joined:  Feb 5, 2024
Also tbh the plagues were over inflated to avoid youtubers buying and selling them. Nijisanji as a corpo can totally negotiate for a discount when they order like 200 from youtube. Or just go on etsy.
IIRC second plaque is cheap and they sell&ship it pretty much at cost, but 3rd+ are ~10x price unless you managed negotiate with real person.
Noone even remember ike being on the blackstream. Vox could just blame elira writing the scripts for him to read, that's what I meant by scapegoat. His main problem is his constant larping and lack of streaming anyway.
Nah, there's no saving them. If they choose "Elira made them do it" angle - she's literal who in this situation, why someone as big as Vox would dance to her tune? Nah this will be still 100% on him. If anything, It'll better optics to spin a tale how "le ebil management" manipulated and forced them at gunpoint to record that fanfic video.
Problem is, they can't lie in any of this. tardsanji is one pissed off whistleblower away from full investigation as it is, they're fucked around more than enough.
 

JusticeDog

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They already did the Elira scapegoat plan with the black stream and it worked great because she took all the blame (and the made up bully clique by extension). It was a lot easier for people to get mad at them than the faceless "management" despite it all being driven by rrats.

If they made a show of getting rid of her it would ruin that and just make Elira into another victim for the pile.

Nothing can save EN at this point. All that's left is too see what magic number they are waiting for revenue to drop to before they merge it. EN is still making much more than ID and KR ever did, so it's probably still a long way off.
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Joined:  May 6, 2023

Behold. The most expensive cover song in vtubing history.


Unironically, yes.



They have ~25 streamers and that's on track for a yearly Net Revenue in the 20 million USD range? I'm pretty sure some streamers with regular CCV lower than all of EN combined makes a multiple of that? Also, what merch are they actually selling to get that amount of revenue?
 

agility_

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Brilliantly for Doki, this financial report gives her hard data on the worth of her character online.
 

Nigel Nigerman

Choo Choo Motherfuckers!
Joined:  Dec 22, 2022
WAIT WHAT HAPPENED D: that‘s so weird, I think anyone who loses 8 million yen on doing events have never encountered anything like this before 😭 did you received a confirmation/OK from manesan before losing 8 million yen on doing events?
They won’t really stop anyone losing 8 million yen on doing events like this as long as there was the OK 😢 The vtuber asset is cute too 😭, I hope things get can be figured out asap! 🙏


Millie copypasta will always be never not funny.
 
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MerelyTourist

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gotta post it on 4chan for parrot
 

Zyklon Mag

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Especially if they can get some guys like Axel
Axel or anyone like him would 100% become the new Zaion if he was in Niji. Sometimes he's one slip away from saying fag on stream and only avoids it because he says "zesty buttbuddies" or "fruity" instead:iryswooo:
 

CalciumAnimal

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Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
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This is incredibly funny. Bragging about the sheer number of talents they've got & keep debuting with no mention that the latest EN wave has livers that are threatening to slip into 2-view territory.
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Also, "I know Q1 looks rough but Q2 is gonna go crazy! 50+% YoY increases in profits!" Motherfucker, how??? You can't sell out a small live concert at one of NA's biggest anime conventions. Y'all couldn't sell water to a dying man in the desert, good lord.


That's so goddamn insane to me. I don't know why more of their talents haven't publicly gone nuclear on the company for paying them starvation wages.

Fuck this company and Riku Tazumi in particular, best case scenario is he gets ousted or assassinated & the company gets sold to Brave Group.
because it's easier to coast then actually do anything.

Which explains Vox who went from a Varity of content that at least had effort into it who once told the fujo's to fuck off when they started being retarded in a chat to ASMR gooner king.

even retards like mysta saw the writing on the wall at this point im convinced the people left are either trying to fight their way to the door or are part of the problem.
 

chihirogumi

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Limkin

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even retards like mysta saw the writing on the wall at this point im convinced the people left are either trying to fight their way to the door or are part of the problem.
Or are coping hardcore that things will go back to normal, Mysta might be a tard but he is far less optimistic and delusional than an average person of his age
Doing vtubing when you are barely 20 as a full time job is just a bad idea in general. You have no experience in a workforce, or it was in some miserable job like retail, so whatever shitty environment and wage you get is perceived as awesome. It doesn't teach you any skills you could use in a different job, and you are entirely at the mercy of your parent company not to go under so it's not a long term reliable job to continue until you are 50. You either need to do it as a part time job while you are getting a proper degree (which is still a solid 5 years of career, more than most stick with this industry) or after you got a good job and financially secure as a hobby.
Ironically the "normie" corpos who are trying to be all anti-idol because "idols are exploited" are fucking up the talents under them much harder. At least if you were in a music focused company you can get some gigs as a singer afterwards, and music-related circles are notorious for everyone knowing everyone in it and you will get jobs just because someone can recommend you. If all you were doing is watching YT videos on twitch and making coomer noises you can't even put it on your resume anywhere
 

Superduper Samurai

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Or are coping hardcore that things will go back to normal, Mysta might be a tard but he is far less optimistic and delusional than an average person of his age
Doing vtubing when you are barely 20 as a full time job is just a bad idea in general. You have no experience in a workforce, or it was in some miserable job like retail, so whatever shitty environment and wage you get is perceived as awesome. It doesn't teach you any skills you could use in a different job, and you are entirely at the mercy of your parent company not to go under so it's not a long term reliable job to continue until you are 50. You either need to do it as a part time job while you are getting a proper degree (which is still a solid 5 years of career, more than most stick with this industry) or after you got a good job and financially secure as a hobby.
Ironically the "normie" corpos who are trying to be all anti-idol because "idols are exploited" are fucking up the talents under them much harder. At least if you were in a music focused company you can get some gigs as a singer afterwards, and music-related circles are notorious for everyone knowing everyone in it and you will get jobs just because someone can recommend you. If all you were doing is watching YT videos on twitch and making coomer noises you can't even put it on your resume anywhere
In addition to this, Niji seemingly disallows people from using their personal accounts to do other jobs in the background, Kronii and Calli have gotten assorted VA gigs that they probably wouldnt have gotten without their Holo clout, peak Niji would've given the same opportunities if not more
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Axel or anyone like him would 100% become the new Zaion if he was in Niji. Sometimes he's one slip away from saying fag on stream and only avoids it because he says "zesty buttbuddies" or "fruity" instead:iryswooo:
It's a miracle management has held back his cursing so much. Every time he gets worked up, it sounds like he's a millisecond from saying cunt 16 times per minute.
 

El Rrata

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It's a miracle management has held back his cursing so much. Every time he gets worked up, it sounds like he's a millisecond from saying cunt 16 times per minute.
It's a losing battle, but they continue to fight the good fight.
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RiverBear

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I think Niji is somewhat unpredictable and such a fall was kinda unprecedented since they're the first big EN corpo to constantly stumble so its kinda hard to entirely predict what will happen next for the branch or its talents
No one wants Niji to fail, but at this point, outside of getting rid of Riku, there might not a chance for Niji to get back their good graces
 

Malchior

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No one wants Niji to fail, but at this point, outside of getting rid of Riku, there might not a chance for Niji to get back their good graces

oh no, people here REALLY want them to fail, Riku is just a bigger scapegoat than Elira to be honest, Niji problem is a structural one, so we just aim at him more so we have a name to say and joke about.

they made the west hate them more than the chinks hated Coco and Haachama when they had spoke about Taiwan.
 

MerelyTourist

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Or are coping hardcore that things will go back to normal, Mysta might be a tard but he is far less optimistic and delusional than an average person of his age
Doing vtubing when you are barely 20 as a full time job is just a bad idea in general. You have no experience in a workforce, or it was in some miserable job like retail, so whatever shitty environment and wage you get is perceived as awesome.
I have to note that KuroMysta is likely most experienced content creator of all nijiEN. He started at what, 12 iirc? He had some very decent following and growth before niji. He have some people watching him FOR OVER 10 YEARS. You don't get to be in the trade this long without gaining some intuition.
In addition to this, Niji seemingly disallows people from using their personal accounts to do other jobs in the background, Kronii and Calli have gotten assorted VA gigs that they probably wouldnt have gotten without their Holo clout, peak Niji would've given the same opportunities if not more
Not seemingly, they require full exclusivity outright.
 

Seth

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Joined:  Feb 11, 2023
oh no, people here REALLY want them to fail, Riku is just a bigger scapegoat than Elira to be honest, Niji problem is a structural one, so we just aim at him more so we have a name to say and joke about.

they made the west hate them more than the chinks hated Coco and Haachama when they had spoke about Taiwan.
Laughing at their failure doesnt mean people on this website want them to close shop.
 

Limkin

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Joined:  Mar 1, 2023
I don't want Niji close for the same reason as I don't want Gura to graduate - they are containment ward. Also it might convince other companies to open or increase male branches and that's no good too
 
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