Nah I think people are observing if there are any signs that Hololive will shun Dokibird for fear of jeopardizing any potential collabs with Nijisanji. Now it's pretty clear there are no issues here.
Just saying her name isn't the same as openly collabing with her/siding with her, Holo will absolutely not jeopardize a whole corpo with tons of influence for some brownie points with a bunch of randos on twitter and dramanigers who don't even watch them. Or maybe it's Occam's razor again and Niji somehow doesn't care.
people would've noticed anyways and rrated if they ignored it either willingly or unwillingly, regardless i think its interesting that they seemingly dont have any sort of management wrangling to not notice Doki, i doubt this will amount to anything but its still an interesting observation
They are 100 sisters strong, bro. We couldn't possibly hope to stop them
biggest negative EN event in the sphere and it happened to a person who was universally beloved, it was bound to happen anyways, i think if it happened to Vox or Finana it would just have been a sad event (and they wouldnt have bounced back that quick)
>people are interested in how their biggest competitor is responding to this
I want fishman to win now. I am officially a phaseshill.
It just shows how little care Nijisanji puts into their management, especially of EN's. Doki is probably one of the most well-connected VTubers in the EN sphere, knowing people from all the big corpo players and indies alike. Not only did Niji refuse to capitalize that, they just straight-up didn't consider the consequences of firing her in their normal fashion would have, that's how unaware of their own situation they are. They thought they were getting rid of another Gundou, when the truth it the impact was always going to be more akin to if they did the same thing to Kuzuha, who I see as comparable in terms of influence on the JP side.
I think the only way they could've fucked this up similarly is if they did it to Pomu
Truer words were never spoken. Didn't her EA contact reach out to her barely a day after her termination to say "Hey so we're totally down to work with you directly as an indie."
Pomu would have probably been worse internally. The holo reaction likely would have been the same, but I think both Niji talents and non-chink fans would have reacted even worse than they did with Selen. Pomu was social and loved by everyone, but that was more contained to Nijisanji and related VTuber sphere, where Selen was more of a loner within Niji than compared to outside of it. Pomu is also less bombastic and, for lack of a better word, rebellious. Selen had a small history of having spats with management. If they tried to say Pomu was breaking rules, I think people things would have been about as bad, if not worse internally.
They were already working with her directly as a corpo, anyway, so it makes sense. That's how she was actually able to get her Apex trophies/goodies and they didn't end up lining Riku's yacht.
Yeah, id agree
Yes, they immediately sent her a care package. She was likely in contact with them before she was even terminated and coordinating her post-Niji sponsorship before she "officially" left NijiEN.
She said that she's basically whitelisted for all EA prereleases.
Yeah, she's a perfect PR content creator. She finds bugs ALL THE TIME that people just assume "it's Doki's luck" and not the game being shit. Even when she does find bugs, she laughs it off, painting it as entertaining, as opposed to making the dev look like shit.
She's actually been more critical of games in general as Doki than she was as Selen though - doesn't have Niji managers breathing down her neck to protect their perms/sposorships, I guess... She was not very complimentary about the South Park game last night for example.
While I'm sure that Niji's corporate culture (No using one's alternate accounts, something Holo doesn't give a fuck about) doesn't help, it's generally only quite exceptional individuals that really do have meaningful outside contacts and actually use them.
That is fair. The JP side is far more connected, but that only really pertains to Japan. In terms of EN VTubers, Youtube-centric ones are pretty disconnected from the bigger parts of the regular streaming-sphere (Twitch is more popular despite how much people here hate it). Calli probably has the biggest name contacts within Holo EN and even then I'd probably say Doki might be better connected.
