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[Koronesuki]

On reddit they would try and remove any trace of her at least here you're still allowed to be a fan try to go over there and admit to being a fan of the so called "Alt-Right" rabbit

I don't know what's sadder, the way she gets treated, or the fact that these mouth breathers actually think that she's "Alt-Right" when she probably voted for Kamalamadingdong.

 

[Phantasm]

Ive seen a scant few favorable mentions of Pippa get updoots, unless those got removed after the fact then she is not hard verboten on r/Virtualyoutubers atleast

Because the jannies can't outright ban you just for mentioning her she's become too big for that to work but as I'm sure you've noticed once she's mentioned you'll have people coming out of the woodwork to remind you that she's "problematic"

 

[The Proctor]

I don't know what's sadder, the way she gets treated, or the fact that these mouth breathers actually think that she's "Alt-Right" when she probably voted for Kamalamadingdong.

I would love to get any person that considers Pippa alt-right to review the Poptart gun incident and then be forced to write an essay on why they still think she is afterwards.

 

[thirteenorphans]

People cherry picking the words and context that suits their interpretation of people and events:

 

[Koronesuki]

I would love to get any person that considers Pippa alt-right to review the Poptart gun incident and then be forced to write an essay on why they still think she is afterwards.

You're obviously a racist, sexist, nazi bigot homophone for even suggesting such a thing.

 

[smartestkidontheshortbus]

I would love to get any person that considers Pippa alt-right to review the Poptart gun incident and then be forced to write an essay on why they still think she is afterwards.

Ah yes, the she's not Alt-Right she's retarded defense.

 

[VSoyBoy]

Define unsustainable:

 

[shipmate_F]

Too often the positives are ignored because "OMG they covered some drama too". I wonder how much of a boost the former PixelLink girls got from False shouting out their PLs last week plus giving promotion to Raki's donothon.

Let's be real, in False's case his "positives" only happen when he got something to gain over it. It was the same for dunking on Niji, as it was when he just glanced over Brave and VSJ drama.
He's a turbofaggot that ought to feel threatened not because he hurt someone's feelings, but because he's a femboy who only acts upon the opportunity of profit, direct or indirectly. Very similar to a certain tribe...

In Rima case, she's a dickrider from time to time but she deludes herself with the notion that she's helping in a general sense. I like when she does stuff to connect people like Nyana's concerts as Bossman mentioned, but she also does retarded stuff like giving DepressedNousagi any split second of her time and circlejerking in public while collabing with other dramafags (not all, but some Parrot collabs were really hard to watch, I only tolerated like 20 minutes before closing the tab).

Like everyone she's entitled to her opinions no matter how regarded they might be.

You can say RETARDED here, don't worry newfag.

Something we'd never do, as Kaminari Clara can attest to.

I don't agree with people antiing her based on alt account spergouts, but you can't defend her virtue signaling on main.
As always: no one fucking cares if you're shlicking to beastiality or curbstomping hobos, as long as it doesn't leak on your public persona.

As a minor tangent, it struck me recently that controversial people are significantly less likely to get banned or censored in many corporate spaces than they are independent spaces. They might get called out and insulted, like Tenma did above, but they're massively less likely to actually get removed.

My somewhat contextual evidence is that I fairly regularly find myself banned from the chats of small indie vtubers (pre-emptively, since it's usually raid targets from the vtubers I normally watch who I've never interacted with before), but I've never been banned from any channel with an average CCV above a few hundred. I can hang out quite openly in Phase Connect, Variance Project, SVP, etc. I'm very, very open about disliking people like Rie and Lumi(lemon) for various reasons, but I'm not banned in their chats either.

My guess is that it's to do with optics. Bigger channels and corporate interests don't want to be seen 'punching down' at people like me, because while I have a personal stance that a streamer has the right to eject whoever they want from their chat at any time and I'm not going to make a fuss about it, I'm sure that if False was banned in a corporate discord/stream chat he'd have a field-day with it, so there's a kind of informal mutual understanding that whoever shoots first just ends up giving ammunition to the person they're aiming at. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it and I genuinely just don't get noticed in bigger chats.

Reminder that the indie bubble is highly incestuous and nepotistic, the "bad actors lists" still exist just like highschool drama. Sometimes you'll find yourself hit with it without even interacting with those people. Use it as a filter and move on.

 

[The Proctor]

Define unsustainable:

I know little about them, but from what I see they seem to be onboarding a lot of talents with full portfolios, so the costs are going to be fairly minimal. As others have iterated regularly, vtubing is a fairly cheap hobby. If they can run things like V-Dere then they should be fine for a while.

 

[God's Tastiest Bucko]

Cease your homosexual squabbling about dramatubers and autism bans, watch Riona play the latest Atelier game

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

That's not even a Bible. That's fuckin' Paradise Lost, which is a book of biblical fanfiction.

To be fair here, he did say to the guy with a gun "shoot me then retard".

The gun was being pointed at him for not having the right opinion and not caring about the subject.

 

[Xuhle]

Define unsustainable:

In duel logs defense as I'm assuming your going at this thinking of acceleration, the last debut they had were all invaders and they still have there IP. And at least from what Nova said they even sell there services to help vtuber if asked.

 

[I Wanna Die]

The dramafag cries out in pain as he strikes you.

 

[ZerroDefex]

I know little about them, but from what I see they seem to be onboarding a lot of talents with full portfolios, so the costs are going to be fairly minimal. As others have iterated regularly, vtubing is a fairly cheap hobby. If they can run things like V-Dere then they should be fine for a while.

From how Meimi Majokko described it to her audience when she joined GlitchStars sounds quite a bit like V-Dere or like trying to be "VShojo Lite" where everyone coming in is already established and keeps their IP and the company is more about helping them get sponsors and merch deals and such.

 

[Saturnus]

The gun was being pointed at him for not having the right opinion and not caring about the subject.

For a reference; I quite honestly think both parties are retarded (V&U and drama vultures like False and Rima) I'm inclined to lean towards talents than Dramafags.
Proctor however did make it clear why I assume this was going to be the last straw with the whole spiel here:

You have been reported multiple times for the sheer amount of bitching and bitterness you spew on a continual basis.

If the guy with a ban hammer gives you a plainly verbal last warning here and your immediate reaction is to say:

Then feel free to ban me right now if you are butthurt that your precious ilk is not liked that much

Like, no shit you're getting banned. Do I agree with how it happened? Not really but @shipmate_F kind of had a equivalent viewpoint with me when I saw it happen while reading the thread.

Limkin was in a spiral of doomposting and shitflinging for a while now, I was wondering how long I'd take for a timeout. The shitposts were good though, but you can't hide malice behind them.

tl;dr I dislike Proctor's attitude since the new year but Limkin figuratively said "Shoot me, bitch boy you won't." And he got shot. I can't really say it was completely unjustified lmao.

 

[Godzilla1984]

The Stockholm Syndrome in this corner of the internet is certainly something.

 

[Cubanodun]

Fire woman (Enya) sadposting I wasn't aware she had such a serious condition anyone have any details?

I joked on the cord that Vtubers are so fragile that if you go twitter and type Vtuber sick on the search bar you would get at best 50 hits, i got sad when it was more like 150, time to write a essay how getting a live2d is like being microdosed with poison

 

[Xuhle]

For a reference; I quite honestly think both parties are retarded (V&U and drama vultures like False and Rima) I'm inclined to lean towards talents than Dramafags.
Proctor however did make it clear why I assume this was going to be the last straw with the whole spiel here:

If the guy with a ban hammer gives you a plainly verbal last warning here and your immediate reaction is to say:

Like, no shit you're getting banned. Do I agree with how it happened? Not really but @shipmate_F kind of had a equivalent viewpoint with me when I saw it happen while reading the thread.


tl;dr I dislike Proctor's attitude since the new year but Limkin figuratively said "Shoot me, bitch boy you won't." And he got shot. I can't really say it was completely unjustified lmao.

 

[Piava]

TVA has no banned users aside from Nolan Crush who were not trolls or severely mentally ill,

The only people I banned from the forum during a 'meltdown' was roughly two years ago

And literally one day later he bans someone because he's butthurt because the guy dared to make a snarky remark.
Amazing.
I mean sure, the guy was acting like a retard but still no reason to ban him imo.

 

[Saturnus]

The Stockholm Syndrome in this corner of the internet is certainly something.

Can you actually reply to the person you're directing this to? Otherwise it feels rather out of place and just as gay as Proctor's vagueposts.