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I'm going to preface all of this with a big fat "If the site is actually real" disclaimer.


V-tubing died in China specifically because of the Chinese government forcing "online influencers" to show their real names when they get a decent follower count. Hoyo is big, but big corpos still have to look like they're toeing the party line if they don't want to end up like Jack Ma did.

There are a couple loopholes to the law that I'm aware of; specifically, you're only legally required to show your name if you bring up IRL information on stream (basically a way to keep people under the boot of the state media :voxppinyourcoke:) or if you bring up certain hot-button topics like professions or the stock market or something. The caveat to that is that none of the platforms gave a shit about the fine details, they wanted to avoid getting "re-educated" so the vast majority of them simply forced people to put their real names on their accounts or leave (Bilibili falls in this camp IIRC). That's why Niji and HoloID has been able to get away with occasional streams on Chinese platforms; I'd bet hard cash that they have a very restricted list of things that they can actually talk about on these streams.

Conversely, if you can 100% ensure that your v-tubers will avoid IRL topics that piss off the secret police (say, by playing a character from Hoyoverse games and not diverging from that tack) and can negotiate with a given platform to bend their individual rules, you could absolutely run a v-tubing company in China.

In order to create a safe, civilized and harmonious network ecological environment and enhance the credibility and authority of the platform's top "self-media" account, the website will guide the top "self-media" account to display the front-end real-name display in the near future, so as to further Standardize the operation and management of "self-media" accounts, and make it easier for the public to implement supervision for the public's public interests. The specific description is as follows:

1. The website will guide the "self-media" account with more than 1 million fans in professional fields such as social current affairs, military, finance, law, and medical care in the near future, and will gradually expand to "self-media with more than 500,000 fans in related fields. "Account, with the user's consent, the front desk real name display is performed.
2. Ordinary users and accounts in areas that mainly share their personal daily life are not affected by the front desk real-name display.
3. After the user fills in the real name information, the user's real name will be displayed on the profile page. For unlogged-in tourist users, users who have not passed the authenticity information, users who are abnormal in behavior, and users who have been dealt with due to unfriendly behavior recently, it is prohibited to view the real-name information of other users at the front desk.
4. The website will inform users who need to display the front desk real name through a private message. Users can guide the front desk real name information through a private message link.
5. For users who receive private messages but do not fill in the front desk real-name information, the traffic and revenue of their accounts will be partially restricted, including recommendation flow display restrictions, hot search display restrictions, advertising sharing restrictions, reward revenue restrictions, etc.

Because of its social influence, the top "self-media" big Vs on various platforms have a public opinion guidance role far exceeding that of ordinary users when discussing social current hot topics. The implementation of real-name front desk is to promote the big Vs to take on the responsibility and The responsibility of matching discourse energy can further promote the ecological governance of online public opinion. In the future, the site will continuously optimize and improve the front-end real-name display process and rules, and actively improve the user experience while strengthening the main responsibility of the platform. At the same time, the website also thanks the majority of users for their active support and cooperation with the front desk real name. Weibo is willing to work with forces from all walks of life to jointly create a clear cyberspace.

If Hoyoverse wanted to make a Hololive ripoff, they'd have to either show the talent's real names (which is possible, I suppose) or stream with a fairly hard script set-up. Someone who actually knows about the Chinese online ecosystem might know more about the fine details, but it's not completely impossible to pull off. With that said, I don't think they'd ever try to reach outside of China, it'd be risky and there's no real reason for them to.
1. It highly is all fake.

2. HoyoVerse/Cognosphere is technically a Singaporean company.
They dont have to subscribe to chinese gov bullshit as long as they dont stream on a Chinese platform like Bilibili. E.g develope their own platform like Anilive and register it under Singapore.

Or hiring known voice actors so face and name isnt an issue.
 
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Which Pippaschizo uses "Kami-Oshi"?

Nice to see Shiina, Jelly, Skye, and Ami get some recognition.
:WHORE!!!: uses kamioshi. I can see the kind behind that piece.

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Or hiring known voice actors so face and name isnt an issue.
That's another thing, all character VAs for Hoyoverse games are announced so yeah they probably don't give a shit about their identities being known.
 

bothyourhouses

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they'd have to either show the talent's real names (which is possible, I suppose)
Honestly I don't get why this is such a big deal. Are they really at so much more risk of stalking than your average animé VA? Obviously it makes it harder for a corpo to control their talents, but when your choice is that or shutting down...
 

Limkin

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Are they really at so much more risk of stalking than your average animé VA?
How to say that you are completely and utterly retarded without saying you are completely and utterly retarded
It wasn't even months after one of EN vtubers had to call police because of the fan trying to break into her house. But yeah, sure, it's not a big issue guys they all should just stream with full legal name and photo on the screen all the time, who cares they are virtual youtubers
To add, lots if not majority of japanese VAs use a stage name instead of their real one precisely because they know just how obsessed people can be
 

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Isa released new cover. Everyone listen to the song right now!
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I Wanna Die

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My Seiso Alien Idol Can't Be This Chuddy


>People in off-topic thread discussing about Lumi's ass yesterday.
>Next day, two different clippers just so happen to upload clips within two hours of each other from a stream almost three weeks ago of Lumi talking about how she somehow busted her ass while doing laundry.

:ameliaThink:

Edit: I guess as a little update with her, she had to cancel streams for the last few days because she lost her voice. She had been streaming every day, multiple times a day for many of them, and for long hours for I don't even know how long anymore. In case anyone who cares doesn't know, she normally streams every day with multiple streams on most days, but lately, in an effort to finish games like KCD1, play other games, and sing, she's been streaming for long hours, sometimes waking up early just so she could spend more time streaming. A few days before her break, she noted that she was starting to lose her voice, and you could definitely hear it. I, as well as many others, were hoping she'd take a break or something soon before it got too bad, but on Saturday, she indicated on Twitter that she lost her voice, so she's been resting her voice since then. She's supposed to be back tomorrow. Hopefully it's been getting better, and hopefully, though doubtfully, she'll start taking more breaks to rest her voice.

I just assume the drive-by yesterday was an assmad unicorn upset she took the weekend off after Valentines day.
 

CalciumAnimal

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Look what's going around: https://hoyo.live/

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Mihoyo Hololive? :ameliaThink:
please let this be real I need to see the absolute MELTDOWNS the unicorns have when whatever poor starving dirt poor lady they get to play (name of loli here) and she dares to speak out of character once.
Sounds like a retarded idea tbh, insofar no corpo has been able to buy their way into relevance in this industry. Copying the kings of the industry is just gonna get them called a ripoff if they ever try to sneak out of china, but sure it'll be funny I guess.

I just remembered ZZZ has a trio of (in-universe) vtuber characters (that haven't been added yet) so that's a possible avenue for it. Aren't vtubers pretty much dead in china though? Unlike indonesia with Aka Virtual and Korea with Isegye Idol, there isn't really a chinese corpo which dominates.
Unlike everyone else Hoyo does have an existing fanbase to exploit so they wave their wads around and actually get talent behind their characters along with simps who will whale for whomstever.

what they don't take into account is like i said above all their fans having absolute meltdowns when their favorite underage anime character is even a breath off in characterization (assuming they use their existing stable of characters anyway)
 

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1. It highly is all fake.

2. HoyoVerse/Cognosphere is technically a Singaporean company.
They dont have to subscribe to chinese gov bullshit as long as they dont stream on a Chinese platform like Bilibili. E.g develope their own platform like Anilive and register it under Singapore.

Or hiring known voice actors so face and name isnt an issue.
The "Hoyolive" site thing has an ICP at the bottom saying it's registered in Beijing, so if it were real the e-commerce child company would be operating out of China. I don't necessarily think it's real and don't know enough Chinese to be able to figure it out 100% one way or the other; I was pointing out that a Chinese v-tubing company isn't out of the realm of possibility.

Honestly I don't get why this is such a big deal. Are they really at so much more risk of stalking than your average animé VA? Obviously it makes it harder for a corpo to control their talents, but when your choice is that or shutting down...

There's been quite a few Chinese actresses and the like who have been coerced into becoming mistresses by local authority figures or just straight up murdered. In China, if someone with connections to the party decides they want a random person off the street, that person has no options. That's just part of living there. That's on top of the same schizo shit we already get here and in Japan. Maybe VAs who live outside of China proper would be safer, but it'd be a legitimate issue anywhere even without the whole "insanely corrupt authorities" angle.
 

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Honestly I don't get why this is such a big deal. Are they really at so much more risk of stalking than your average animé VA? Obviously it makes it harder for a corpo to control their talents, but when your choice is that or shutting down...
I must unironically ask: Do you actually like vtubers? You seem to vehemently HATE everything that makes vtubers... vtubers. I think you'd prefer twitch streamers.
It's like you came to the neighborhood barbecue and you take issue with it being outside, using a grill and there being mostly meat... no shit, that's kind of what makes it what it is.
 

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Coqui and Oliva Monroe are shilling something that is like omegle for vtubers? Who thought this was a good idea? Less dicks I hope.
 

Smelliest007

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>People in off-topic thread discussing about Lumi's ass yesterday.
>Next day, two different clippers just so happen to upload clips within two hours of each other from a stream almost three weeks ago of Lumi talking about how she somehow busted her ass while doing laundry.

This means nothing to me, Phasekek, leak Lumi spreading her irl cheeks or she goes to the bottom of the list.

Signed,
A Concerned Yamanba
 

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Holo Guide Tokyo is up, featuring Irys, Fuwamoco, Calli and Bae

Wonder if anyone will get Shibuya, Asakusa and Ueno.

Yet another vtuber breaking containment

She is pretty, I'll give her that

She had broken containment before.
 

The Scream Guy

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I just found this vtuber called Leafit and apparently her co host is her biological mother? And said mother is streaming right now building one piece miniatures or something? FUCKING BASED
Her twitch channel
:holohag::hololove:

Edit: She's building gundam not one piece minis, even more based
 

Phantasm

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I just found this vtuber called Leafit and apparently her co host is her biological mother? And said mother is streaming right now building one piece miniatures or something? FUCKING BASED
Her twitch channel
:holohag::hololove:

Edit: She's building gundam not one piece minis, even more based
Damn she's a twitch streamer I was considering checking her out I searched Leafit on youtube and got nothing related to vtubers nevermind it's LEAFLIT that L is apparently really important to youtube
 

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Is Leaflit the new Gumpei er.... Gumpai.... is Leaflit a whore or did she design Game and Watch?
 

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leaflit is cool, is almost getting more political than kirsche lately
 

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leaflit is cool, is almost getting more political than kirsche lately
How is that "Cool"?
Or is this just some retarded injoke?

Does every chuuba which appeals to /pol/ get instantly popular in this place now?
 

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How is that "Cool"?
Or is this just some retarded injoke?

Does every chuuba which appeals to /pol/ get instantly popular in this place now?
If anything people dislike political chuubas here now
ever since Kirsche turned more poltiical its a very fun way to bait by posting "chuubas?" everytime she spergs about BRIDGE DEI autism
 
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