"i want to strangle this woman this is hoqw the asylum ends i am buying a planeticket to california and going on a murdering spree the piles of generic melennial women will fill the streets"The Proctor

EIEN Project Disintegrates

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Looks like it was Skye... I don't follow all the ex-EIEN girls, but that's the only one Nemo isn't following. Would track with what I've heard about who tried to unite the girls against management a year ago:

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By the way speaking of Skye, does anyone else think her new name is fucking terrible? Or just me?
 

shipmate_F

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Skye had an interview with Tenshi, Bat's orbiter, if people are interested.
I listened to it partially, it was tame and Tenshi is a good girl. There's probably nothing there but it's something to comb.
Can people check if Skye follows the other girls? I'm twitter illiterate.

The VOD:


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Is it really doxing if you were stupid enough to use the same name across all your accounts as a cosplayer and then use those same photos to try to gain twitter likes? Apparently she doesn't have a dad get her shit straight but even her mom just lets her do whatever she wants and smoke weed all day locked in her room. She needs to get off the internet already and get people in her life that can actually help her, or she can keep spiraling for our entertainment.
 

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Is it really doxing if you were stupid enough to use the same name across all your accounts as a cosplayer and then use those same photos to try to gain twitter likes? Apparently she doesn't have a dad get her shit straight but even her mom just lets her do whatever she wants and smoke weed all day locked in her room. She needs to get off the internet already and get people in her life that can actually help her, or she can keep spiraling for our entertainment.
She also screamed all her alts in stream the day after she got out of the contract
 

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By the way speaking of Skye, does anyone else think her new name is fucking terrible? Or just me?
She wanted to change it to bury the old lore, ran out of ideas, so just went with a Dark Souls reference.
 

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Oh boy, here I go double posting again!

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TL;DR: Unity taken out back and put out of its misery. Skye unfollowed Nemo after Nemo made the post about telling someone (Silvi/Risti) to kill themselves, as she does not support that kind of behaviour.

I'm usually on Nemo's side on these things (even Ekko who seems to just want to move on could only absolve Eri in her experience - she had nothing nice to say about the rest of management), and I obviously don't feel the same as Skye, but at this point Nemo is veering into worrying territory. Unless she leaks the DMs and proves otherwise, Skye has been nothing but professional towards her in regards to this issue. I completely understand Nemo's need to vent but I'd hope it could continue to be productive and not cause the girls to start turning on each other.

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@The Proctor, time to get in those DMs if you aren't already... Don't make me do it myself!
 
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shipmate_F

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Skye addressed the elephant in the room in a rather complete way

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After attempts at communication with her, I've decided to discuss recent events with Nemo Nevermore. In truth, I don't want to make a public statement like this, and had tried to resolve things via private messages, but given the development of the situation, I feel like I had to make this statement.Regarding the vague posts about someone unfollowing her, that was me.The reason I unfollowed her is because I don’t condone people telling others to KYS, even as a joke. Nemo has been posting about her anger towards past staff we had worked with during our time in EIEN Project as former talents.While I think her anger is reasonable– given the situation of her not being able to purchase her IP and the difficulties she had with management– I do not think her actions are acceptable. It is one thing to vent out your anger, but to tell someone to end their life because you are angry with what they’ve done to you is taking it too far.After seeing her post saying “if you don’t like what you see, you’re free to unfollow,” I did so after seeing the post. Some time afterwards, I was informed by friends that it seems like a vague post from Nemo was made about me. So I reached out to her in DMs to explain my actions.I told her the same thing I tell you now, “I unfollowed because I don’t condone you telling others to kys, even as a joke,” and Nemo took this to mean as I don’t care for her, or her feelings. I think it’s possible to both care for someone and also not support their actions, and these are two things that can coexist.I am not pretending to care, I am not backstabbing her. I am trying to be understanding of her situation and at the same time establish my own boundaries. And if me establishing my own boundaries is something upsetting to her, then it’s unfortunate but I have said my piece. I want to protect and uphold my values.I’ve had my own fair share of difficulties with management– as she said in her tweet as well, that this is the “same person who united us against management,” I am also that same person. I felt that we all deserved more, deserved better. In the end things just didn’t work out, and we have to move on.After some falling through with our communications and her not accepting my statement and boundaries, she has blocked me. I do hope that the people who are new to this situation try to understand that I am simply just trying to have my own space, and allow her to have her own. I never told her that she should stop, just that I don’t want to see it and I don’t support it.Thank you very much for your time.

E: fuck, phone posting too slow.

Nemo is becoming the kind of person that fucked with her quite fast, dhe needs to sit back a bit and reassess her head before going Gumpai.
 
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Paladin

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Oh boy, here I go double posting again!

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TL;DR: Unity taken out back and put out of its misery. Skye unfollowed Nemo after Nemo made the post about telling someone (Silvi/Risti) to kill themselves, as she does not support that kind of behaviour.

I'm usually on Nemo's side on these things (even Ekko who seems to just want to move on could only absolve Eri in her experience - she had nothing nice to say about the rest of management), and I obviously don't feel the same as Skye, but at this point Nemo is veering into worryingly menhera territory. Unless she leaks the DMs and proves otherwise, Skye has been nothing but professional towards her in regards to this issue. I completely understand Nemo's need to vent but I'd hope it could continue to be productive and not cause the girls to start turning on each other.

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@The Proctor, time to get in those DMs if you aren't already... Don't make me do it myself!

Skye is handling it professionally but to me it comes off as a lie of convenience. This reeks of “hey let me moralize on this topic to make myself look superior and squash critics.” Kys jokes are incredible common and moralizing about it is a quick way to hang yourself if someone catches you laughing at such a joke also If it’s really a consistent belief I imagine she has talked about it on stream so It should be easy to fact check. Unless she’s got more evidence I can’t believe skye at the moment as it sounds to convenient to be true, and it’s leading me to suspect she’s omitting something.
 
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I wish I could give a bit of advice as someone who's seen content making groups rise and fall since before YouTube was even a thing: Shut the fuck up and stream.
The only people I've seen come out clean and successful after a group's implosion are those who just keep doing what they do. The longer you fling shit, even if you feel justified for it, the more people you'll lose until you find yourself with no audience.

tl:dr I'm losing sympathy for everyone involved.
 

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Update: I either got blocked or Nemo has deleted her twitter.
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If all this had happened earlier in the lifecycle of EN VTubing, EIEN would have been CyberLive levels of radioactive, damn.
 

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If all this had happened earlier in the lifecycle of EN VTubing, EIEN would have been CyberLive levels of radioactive, damn.
From the things we are observing, Vreverie has become that with their talents in other corpos
 

Scoots

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Oh boy, here I go double posting again!

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TL;DR: Unity taken out back and put out of its misery. Skye unfollowed Nemo after Nemo made the post about telling someone (Silvi/Risti) to kill themselves, as she does not support that kind of behaviour.

I'm usually on Nemo's side on these things (even Ekko who seems to just want to move on could only absolve Eri in her experience - she had nothing nice to say about the rest of management), and I obviously don't feel the same as Skye, but at this point Nemo is veering into worrying territory. Unless she leaks the DMs and proves otherwise, Skye has been nothing but professional towards her in regards to this issue. I completely understand Nemo's need to vent but I'd hope it could continue to be productive and not cause the girls to start turning on each other.

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@The Proctor, time to get in those DMs if you aren't already... Don't make me do it myself!

Respectable Skye
 

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So to anyone who knows, why, exactly, did Nemo tell Risti to KHS? Was it over some frivolous mundane crap that ultimately serves no purpose?
 

Euthyphro

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From the things we are observing, Vreverie has become that with their talents in other corpos
VReverie would be more like Tsunderia than CyberLive. Top-tier talent roster, but suffered from serious lack of direction and apathy from the people running it. Had whole generations bail, then soldiered on as a corpse with a new/stillborn gen for another year. Although I will say they were more actively malicious than Tsunderia on their way out. The talents then scattered to the wind carving out a following either as indies or in other companies, but still have a lot of positive interactions with each other.

EIEN is more like CyberLive in how things played out, with the allegations of favoritism, and talents apparently being at each other's throats for a while, complete with thinly-veiled shade and Discord screenshots. The downfall was also accelerated by their top talent leaving for reasons that are not completely clear. And much like CyberLive, EIEN got some early notoriety for the wrong reasons (the gaming chair incident being analogous to the paid Discord calls for CL). Although a caveat here is that the OnlyFans girl in EIEN was the good one, apparently. On the side of the talents, everyone is keen to just go on their separate ways after a failed attempt at post-dissolution unity. They're already playing the "we just want to move on with our lives" card, though I get the sense that, much like CyberLive, this won't be the last we will hear about EIEN. We might get some bits and pieces about what happened over time too.

TL;DR - The difference is that the VReverie girls, much like the ex-Tsunderia girls, bonded through their common experience of mismanagement, while the EIEN talents had a falling out because of it, like CyberLive.
 

Scoots

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So to anyone who knows, why, exactly, did Nemo tell Risti to KHS? Was it over some frivolous mundane crap that ultimately serves no purpose?
Ritsi was sympathizing with fluffen's sad post and Nemo called bullshit on Ritsi actually giving a shit I was sick when I wrote this disregard
For anyone that was doubting the Silvi=Risti rrat and asking for proof, this is probably as close as you're going to get until NDAs expire eventually:

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Trying to get a ghostarchive up as well but the site isn't working for me atm. This is the first drama related Nemo tweet with actual substance in a while so I expect it to be promptly deleted.

edit: ghostarchive archives up
 
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