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EIEN Project Disintegrates

God's Saddest Tattletail

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Ritsi was sympathizing with fluffen's sad post and Nemo called bullshit on Ritsi actually giving a shit
I read it more as Nemo calling bullshit that Risti was praising the Hololive girls for "not letting their frustrations with management show" and implying that whatever was "frustrating for them behind the scenes" in Holo was not comparable to the mismanagement/mistreatment in EIEN.
 

Aquatic Novellite

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VReverie would be more like Tsunderia than CyberLive. Top-tier talent roster, but suffered from serious lack of direction and apathy from the people running it. Had whole generations bail, then soldiered on as a corpse with a new/stillborn gen for another year. Although I will say they were more actively malicious than Tsunderia on their way out. The talents then scattered to the wind carving out a following either as indies or in other companies, but still have a lot of positive interactions with each other.

EIEN is more like CyberLive in how things played out, with the allegations of favoritism, and talents apparently being at each other's throats for a while, complete with thinly-veiled shade and Discord screenshots. The downfall was also accelerated by their top talent leaving for reasons that are not completely clear. And much like CyberLive, EIEN got some early notoriety for the wrong reasons (the gaming chair incident being analogous to the paid Discord calls for CL). Although a caveat here is that the OnlyFans girl in EIEN was the good one, apparently. On the side of the talents, everyone is keen to just go on their separate ways after a failed attempt at post-dissolution unity. They're already playing the "we just want to move on with our lives" card, though I get the sense that, much like CyberLive, this won't be the last we will hear about EIEN. We might get some bits and pieces about what happened over time too.

TL;DR - The difference is that the VReverie girls, much like the ex-Tsunderia girls, bonded through their common experience of mismanagement, while the EIEN talents had a falling out because of it, like CyberLive.
Are we due a repeat of Cyberlive/Tsunderia every few years? Can we talk about Cyberlive/Tsunderia corp generations, with VReverie & EIEN being Gen 2?
 

agility_

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It will be a repeat of Cyberlve/Tsunderia when we get several months (or years) worth of strife between former members, which somehow track them across their newer personalities. I think it's too early to tell yet.
 

RestlessRain

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Are we due a repeat of Cyberlive/Tsunderia every few years? Can we talk about Cyberlive/Tsunderia corp generations, with VReverie & EIEN being Gen 2?
I would have said Phase Connect is the next iteration of Tsunderia, since it picked up Slugma, Purin, Kana, and Kailin.
 

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Helkar

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So, uh, how long until their next falling out?
 

x Hades Stamps

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Scoots

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Lee Crabb

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What is this telenovela shit? Roller coaster of emotions.
:Vesper-UNHINGED:
 

agility_

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I love it. One minute it's Peace in our Lifetime, the next is "unfollowed, I'm never speaking to this whore again".
 

Clown Penis

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Hff201

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I love it. One minute it's Peace in our Lifetime, the next is "unfollowed, I'm never speaking to this whore again".
Women. Can't live with 'em.

...I think there's another part to that saying, but I can't think what it would be.
 

Thomas Talus

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What is this telenovela shit? Roller coaster of emotions.
:Vesper-UNHINGED:
I remember Skye did some telenovela skits/fake ads early on, but I don't get the impression she wants to live through one (unless it involves forbidden romance with a robot).
 

Kalion

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Crossposting from the corpo auditions thread:


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Murrayしないで

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Crossposting from the corpo auditions thread:

"Indie freedom, corpo benefits" but also "we will not be supporting talents" and also "upfront fees." What.
 

CalciumAnimal

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I for a second thought they were trying to pull a Vshojo but what is this upfront fees nonsense and as hands off as Vsho started they do help the talents.
 

wew

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:pekol: this is going to be a long roller coaster archive
 

Helkar

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