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A Career Burnt to Sinders
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Which would be funnier, seeing Sinder seethe from getting bought out like that by a fox woman, or bint/ana/nyara seething cause now Kirsche is not going to loose her sponsorship.
Exclusive deals are fine, but this particular execution was fucked up in literally every single aspect.
Imagine the SEETHE!!! I don't think she have any money for it though, or desire.
Isnt the share only offered to creators who move alot of product?
I should watch more Tenma, absolutely based woman
Tenma demands BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
Connections are almost always positive. People like collabs, audience crossover is often mutually beneficial.
Honest exclusivity can be fine (although cutting off someone you made a model for isn't really, given how locked in they are). Sandbagging commissions you've already agreed to isn't. Faking medical issues to do so is especially scummy.
Yes. Like Kirsche.
Yet she clearly doesn't want just collabs, if she did why not have collabed with Sinder. She even said so she's not interested in collabs in her own doc.
This got me chuckling
Obvious piss fetish and the retard requested art of her character getting raped by dogs and etc. Yeah no, I don't think she needs to be saved.
Cross-post just for safe keeping.
Sinder is Erebus at best
Dunno if moving enough product to get a waifu cup qualifies, she might need to move enough to get her own flavor as well.
Anyhow I just checked and Sinder's flavor is still for sale, it'll be interesting to see if it's shortly discontinued (I doubt they'd just throw away unsold product rather than just stop making any more and letting it sell off maybe at clearance discount.) There might be some contractual obligation that has to play out and just removing her immediately opens them to legal backlash.
They might rebrand it, like they did with Lean (you know that would be really funny if they do that again). Though personal taste it's not that good.
Ngl, id believe it if most of her audience was dedicated enough to buy but she is still much smaller (in views) than any of the hoes and Sinder herself
They expect some of us in the wreckage, brother.
No exceptions.
After seeing the situation and fallout for a few days now, I wonder if those who dropped the character destruction towards Sinder bothered to run any of their planned actions and statements past their lawyers, in a basic Cover Your Ass before speaking sense. These people are a business as much as they are individuals, and a careless action or statement that can't be backed by hard proof could have an actionable response for interference. (It is not what you think or what you feel about something, it is what you can prove to a court) If you can't prove that Sinder had knowledge of what was happening, beyond "She and Red do stuff together", you may not want to call it out as her being in the know, and especially not in a public takedown.
After nanoless ratted out Sinder to the ones currently cancelling her, it may have been a better move for those affected to call her out privately, call her and Redacted to stand for the messages and actions that were done, and come to a "punishment" privately (excommunication from the friend group, etc), rather than the public expose that has carried on in the past few days. The communities would notice that something happened, and that suddenly she is no longer welcome with the group, but that a generic "we had a falling out over something behind the scenes, and that is all I can say" statement should be the response given. I'm sure there would be a ton of speculation and maybe someone leaks something on a burner account, but definitely nothing revealed like it has been so far. As it is now, a case can be made for the interference with the business that is the Sinder character, and that those making public statements did so with the express intention of causing harm to said business. A good lawyer would keep you from sticking your own head out in order to chop off someone else's, when a quick private knife in the side in a back room would be the smarter/safer option.
And before anyone gives the "Sinder interfered with them", yes she did, and they could try to seek recompense legally as well. But at the same time, they would be stringing nanoless up alongside her for her actions in the whole affair, and the heavier portion of ther blame could fall onto her for the actual action of cancellations for other reasons. Jursdictions and the like being a whole other matter to deal with.
This is all just a thought to roll around, more theory than actual legal possibilty.
After nanoless ratted out Sinder to the ones currently cancelling her, it may have been a better move for those affected to call her out privately, call her and Redacted to stand for the messages and actions that were done, and come to a "punishment" privately (excommunication from the friend group, etc), rather than the public expose that has carried on in the past few days. The communities would notice that something happened, and that suddenly she is no longer welcome with the group, but that a generic "we had a falling out over something behind the scenes, and that is all I can say" statement should be the response given. I'm sure there would be a ton of speculation and maybe someone leaks something on a burner account, but definitely nothing revealed like it has been so far. As it is now, a case can be made for the interference with the business that is the Sinder character, and that those making public statements did so with the express intention of causing harm to said business. A good lawyer would keep you from sticking your own head out in order to chop off someone else's, when a quick private knife in the side in a back room would be the smarter/safer option.
And before anyone gives the "Sinder interfered with them", yes she did, and they could try to seek recompense legally as well. But at the same time, they would be stringing nanoless up alongside her for her actions in the whole affair, and the heavier portion of ther blame could fall onto her for the actual action of cancellations for other reasons. Jursdictions and the like being a whole other matter to deal with.
This is all just a thought to roll around, more theory than actual legal possibilty.
She had Sinder as the Emperor at one point, and everyone sort of backwards. It took a lot of chat help to get it to this point.
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