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VSoyBoy

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I mean, I was rrating a little bit about Reimu, but of course /r/kurosanji needs to take it to another level. Can't even have a headache anymore without someone speculating about behind the scenes scheming:
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CalciumAnimal

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I mean, I was rrating a little bit about Reimu, but of course /r/kurosanji needs to take it to another level. Can't even have a headache anymore without someone speculating about behind the scenes scheming:
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woman who admits to frequently having headaches has a headache

Must be because of me I did this.
 

Saturnus

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I wonder what Legal Mindset thinks of all this?
LegalGrindset is formulating a way to grift off this so he can afford to go to the soapland with all the Thai femboys he likes.
 

famous artist pipkun

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@famous artist pipkun as well, IIRC. And unlike Nene, he likes to wallow in Niji legal drama. Got his own thread over Selen's, even.
im not a lawyer merely been to court enough and dabbled in mock trial.
You could have just admitted that you don't know what judgement-proof means either you know? Basically, we don't have debtors' prisons any more, so the civil legal system can only take your money. If you don't have money, there's nothing they can really do to you. Hence judgement proof.
lol this is retarded on many levels.
 

Bug Eater

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She was utterly retarded for letting something as damning as the aster allegations be half-answered, i hope she drops the full shit if she is actually terminated, partially just for the funny
I'm wondering if she was holding back on the off chance that things at Niji could still work out (which was probably true up until the discord convo was leaked). At this point I think she should get ahead of the story and drop the full Google dockey, especially now that Aster knows she may have recorded conversations, kept discord logs, etc. Bonus points if she can do it without bringing up Brave group or incest or any other retarded things.
 

Void Scribas

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Fleeing after leaking Twisty's outfit! How devious! All Latinas are bitches.

I know, the whole thing is very circumstantial at best.And the signs for her leaving have been around for months now.

What exactly is the evidence that Reimu leaked Twisty outfit? Or at least that she is the one behind the bullying against Twisty?

Because the only thing we had is a rrat

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Is there an actual resident lawyer or are we all just online nerds using basic English reading comprehension (some even ESL) to guess the outcome of a legal battle involving a non-English-speaking company?

At least the Owozu case did show us that labor law may perhaps not apply to a vtuber-agency work relation because if the talent's salary depends on donations and not on the employer, there is no relationship of subordination or dependence between employee and employer, technically speaking, of course.

The key here is what exactly the Nijisanji contracts promise will be the place from where the talent money salary is going to come from.

The labor court is NOT saying “Owozu was not bad to the girls and nothing bad happened here, and their accusations are false”.

What the tribunal is saying IS: “This is not a dispute between employee and employer but between two independent private parties. Even if they have evidence, we cannot say or sentence anything because as a labor court, we are not competent for these conflicts”.

Clearly here the problem was to bring a type of conflict to a court that does not see such types of conflicts. Nene and Rakkun's mistake was to believe that since it was a problem in their jobs, it could be seen by a labor court. But in reality, this is more of a civil issue.

The issue is people now saying that Owozu did nothing wrong even though Nene and the Oneeshi girls continue to maintain the statements that the managers are horrible, which may very well not be a regulatory fault, but wrong nonetheless.

It is clear that everyone in this controversy has no fucking idea of the law. Rakkun, Nene, the managers of Owozu do not understand the decision made by the court and that it is not “this one is right or wrong” but “this is not our business”.

Now what I do find fascinating is that this is the first time I have seen a court refer to the employment relationship between vtuber and agency, arguing that, as the talent's salary depends on donations and not on the employer, there is no relationship of subordination or dependence between employee and employer.

Therefore, this type of conflict could not be seen by a labor court because what there would be in reality is a collaboration or independent service. Therefore, the problem here would be a breach of contract between private parties.

As an aside, I find funny that in the Owozu controversy Rakkun is a key player, and she also appears here because of her connection with Reimu (MarieFD did covers with her) and how this impact backs to the ES vtuber and utaite community. Everything is connected, time is a flat circle.

Having said that, it would be funny if Reimu escape exit would be to become an ES vtuber to escape some of the heat, considering she has created a group friend with Taiga and Eru that will give her some legs to stand up if that case occurs.


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BM59

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Twisty is streaming again on her PL just a drawing stream but still

+EDIT+ it was quite cozy
 
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21st Century Pipkin Man

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Smelliest007

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woman who admits to frequently having headaches has a headache

Must be because of me I did this.
Jostling her head around that much? You dog.

I have no investment in and know nothing about, specially after seeing so much bullshit be spun-up about the corpo I like by people in that same position.
Can't really spin bullshit with Niji, when it actually happens. Now help the two retards dicking about laws out in here so it can be done with.
 

frz

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LegalGrindset is formulating a way to grift off this so he can afford to go to the soapland with all the Thai femboys he likes.
the favorite thing I have learned this week is that LegalMindset is actually broke
Clock me but I never paid attention to this (more like I don't browse the farm): He got sued by Wells Fargo, American Express & Truist Bank
He actually managed to get all 3 cases dismissed recently because the banks.... cannot properly serve him a.k.a send him a copy of the summon to the court as he fled to S.Korea and then Thailand.
Judging by how much he's online, he prob isn't earning any money off being a lawyer. There isn't a swarm of americans looking to marry Thai ladybois. Dude is really clout chasing to afford food and pay the ladybois
 
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JusticeDog

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Twisty is streaming again on her PL just a drawing stream but still

Either she's out or she finally stopped caring. She ended that stream by saying she's probably streaming again tomorrow. :BibooPopcorn:
 

MerelyTourist

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But if Niji are any smart and were to sue Twisty, they would be going for defamation, rather than contract violations.
Impossible. They will never be able to prove malicious intent in US. And they will never be able to enforce JP defamation ruling in US simply because JP defamation law is way too alien.
Anyway.
In theory, neglisanji would cave to any demands and settle like a bitch at the first whiff of public discovery. But unless all their EN males live in US, they might choose to ignore everything and get expunged from US "The rossu of US-basedo tarentu endo commerce wirru bi negrigiburu". i know shareholders will fuck Riku without lube for it, but it's not his first rodeo

At least the Owozu case did show us that labor law may perhaps not apply to a vtuber-agency work relation because if the talent's salary depends on donations and not on the employer, there is no relationship of subordination or dependence between employee and employer, technically speaking, of course.

The key here is what exactly the Nijisanji contracts promise will be the place from where the talent money salary is going to come from.
Owozu is in irrelevant and highly bribeable jurisdiction though.
the favorite thing I have learned this week is that LegalMindset is actually broke
Clock me but I never paid attention to this (more like I don't browse the farm): He got sued by Wells Fargo, American Express & Truist Bank
He actually managed to get all 3 cases dismissed recently because the banks.... cannot properly serve him a.k.a send him a copy of the summon to the court as he fled to S.Korea and then Thailand.
Judging by how much he's online, he prob isn't earning any money off being a lawyer. There isn't a swarm of americans looking to marry Thai ladybois. Dude is really clout chasing to afford food and pay the ladybois
Ladybois aside, please explain why would he go out of his way to pay these banks if he don't plan to live and work in US anytime soon? Especially as debt sum is frozen by court. That'd be retarded.
 
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frz

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Ladybois aside, please explain why would he go out of his way to pay these banks if he don't plan to live and work in US anytime soon? Especially as debt sum is frozen by court. That'd be retarded.
What the fuck is your question, is there anything but cum in your head
The point is that he was such an incompetent lawyer he ended up fleeing the country because of debt. I know being a lawyer is not a lucrative job anymore in the US (they have an overabundance of it), but most lawyers don't end up running from the law.

It's like a business consultant being ousted for bankrupting 100+ companies. bUt DiD hE ofFer reFUnD, that's not the fucking point.

P.s: that reminded me. Kuro fled to Indonesia for debt, he ended up paying it all back. Dude is actually more manly than the ladiboi lover.
 

Troon Repeller

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What the fuck is your question, is there anything but cum in your head
The point is that he was such an incompetent lawyer he ended up fleeing the country because of debt. I know being a lawyer is not a lucrative job anymore in the US (they have an overabundance of it), but most lawyers don't end up running from the law.

It's like a business consultant being ousted for bankrupting 100+ companies. bUt DiD hE ofFer reFUnD, that's not the fucking point.

P.s: that reminded me. Kuro fled to Indonesia for debt, he ended up paying it all back. Dude is actually more manly than the ladiboi lover.
It appears every single semi-famous Internet lawyer YouTuber has skeletons in their closet then.

Does that mean Nenelove has skeletons in his closet as well?

Regardless, I think he's provided pretty decent info on the whole Niji shit, failure or not, and he was the first to cover it from a legal perspective. If he has all the time in the world to autistically research shit none of us have access to, that's more useful than a bunch of us retards who know absolutely nothing about the law flinging shit at each other about it.

Hell, Nenelove could jump on LM's stream and prove him wrong if you feel he's the better lawyer (though he has no trial/court experience, LM does, though if what you're saying is LM lost a lot, so idk).
 

Hff201

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MerelyTourist

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The point is that he was such an incompetent lawyer he ended up fleeing the country because of debt. I know being a lawyer is not a lucrative job anymore in the US (they have an overabundance of it), but most lawyers don't end up running from the law.
Nah, timeline doesn't work. Debt sum is small (a slow week worth of streams or him now) and he did not even live in US when he raked up this debt. So, why go out of your way to fight it or pay it, if it have no chance to affect his current life?
You think in terms of what's righteous thing to do, real business lawyers think in terms of what they can get away with. This is why Eagle is constantly wrong and LM is constantly correct.
 
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21st Century Pipkin Man

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frz

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It appears every single semi-famous Internet lawyer YouTuber has skeletons in their closet then.
legal eagle hasn't been exposed for a closet type shit afaik. He's openly grifting though.
Nah, timeline doesn't work. Debt sum is small (a slow week worth of streams or him now) and he did not even live in US when he raked up this debt. So, why go out of your way to fight it or pay it, if it have no chance to affect his current life?
You think in terms of what's righteous thing to do, real business lawyers think in terms of what they can get away with. This is why Eagle is constantly wrong and LM is constantly correct.
where did you get this info of he didn't live in there other than "just trust me bro"
 

Saturnus

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Please take your talk of Legal Grindset and his debt dodging tactics over to the banter thread. It is not on topic to the current happening.
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