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Offkai Expo 2025
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Whoa whoa hey now that was 6 years ago I’m definitely a fellow boomer don’t agepost me!
In taiwan, when you buy the vtuber meetup ticket, you would need to provide your ID and passport first to prevent scalpers. Once you are in the event, the volunteers need to verify your ID once more to ensure nothing funny happened.
However, in Offkai, this is pretty messed up because i am sure the troons and lefty cucks will hard dox you, or intentionally destroy your ID/passport by accident when you try to meet up with Pippa or other vtubers that they loathed.
I am pretty sure the Offkai cunt organiser will dodge the responsibility as much as possible when this shit is happened, and i guaranteed it gonna happen
However, in Offkai, this is pretty messed up because i am sure the troons and lefty cucks will hard dox you, or intentionally destroy your ID/passport by accident when you try to meet up with Pippa or other vtubers that they loathed.
I am pretty sure the Offkai cunt organiser will dodge the responsibility as much as possible when this shit is happened, and i guaranteed it gonna happen
I think some of you are underestimating how deranged these people can be. This won't end with Kirsche and Phase. There are people out there who believe Shiori Novella is a "TERF" because she said she liked a J.K. Rowling novel - do any of the volunteers share this opinion? Would any of them schizo out at her fans because of it? Who knows!
Remember, SJWs are not principled people, and as such the kinds of things they take issue with to a point of feeling justified engaging in life ruination over can change drastically overnight. Combine those with the vtuber community's general tendency to let defamatory rrats fly free, and you're in an environment where everyone, regardless of their political views or associations, should be especially careful who they trust - and therefore it's good practice and a show of good faith for people involved in hosting events to only seek access to sensitive information on a need-to-know basis. If they start asking for more than the bare minimum about me, I'd need a very, very good reason why I should trust them.
I wish I had a pessimistic reaction for posts like this. As I said, what it ultimately comes down to is how willing you are to believe that paranoia surrrounding the ID checking is justified. As far as anybody left of center is concerned, they're more than happy that they're handing over their IDs to protect from le evil scalpers, diregarding any thoughts that they might end up being the target of a deranged psycho progressive because they already have "the correct opinion".
I know around here we've had to deal with a lot of deranged lefties in our experiences here, and I don't disagree that there are a lot more of them around in the VTubing community (as well as in con leadership circles in general, not just offkai). But I do feel our perspective is skewed a bit by our biases towards expecting everybody to hate us - and anybody like us - as well as being heavily attatched to the concept of the slippery slope. It almost feels like people here (and most VTuber fans far enough right) have developed a persecution complex when a lot of people genuinely do not care about the kinds of people you watch and are more than happy to take your money regardless. Not only that, but I will reiterate that Phase Connect have OffKai management pretty firmly under their thumb at this point. If one or even a handful of losers try to do what you guys are describing, punishment is more than likely to be enacted against them.
On the other side, however, I do think the people blindly accepting that this is just the way it is are falling into their own fallacy of sunk cost. There is reason to be paranoid, far more than most of these people are willing to accept. People in OffKai staff like Nyaru have been trying to quell fears about any kind of potential guest sabotage on the side of the volunteers, but she (like the other staff and the capipicord twats) are sticking their heads in the sand because they think they're free from anybody trying to hurt them over petty issues like this. It is absolutely within the realm of possibility that the convention may have somebody working there who's zealous enough to try and pull off a stunt like that. If OffKai really wanted to offset fears they would put out a statement that anybody who does something like that will be severely punished, but I highly doubt that will happen.
Regardless, it's not on me that people are attending anyway. They've made their own decision that the good outweighs the bad and won't back down because some (from their perspective) über right wingers tell them they're gonna get doxxed, harassed and shunned. They do not think that will happen to them regardless of what we say.
On a personal note, this would likely get me to cancel my ticket had I gotten one, if not for living far enough away that getting one would be financially stupid of me. If I wanna see VTuber events (even in Cali alone) Anime Expo and their like are far more comfortable to be at relative to amateur acts like OffKai. We could really use a way better VTuber-focused convention, and I'd like to see it sooner than later.
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I see you are versed on this Ken. How's the wife btw?
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Armcha1r hits the nail on the head.
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If I had a nickel for every year in a row that Offkai relied on False and/or con attendees to clarify a statement or justify a decision on their behalf (instead of just doing it themselves), I'd have two nickels.
This isn't a lot, but I've outlined how some of their prior statements could've been handled better for less so here goes:
The most obvious way that this announcement could've gone over better is if it was made sooner.
Announcing it right after the lottery was done was a surefire way of priming people to feel like the timing was a deliberate choice in order to enforce compliance. People in this industry, especially dedicated fans, are generally willing to handwave away absurdities like not needing to show a government ID to vote in California but needing one to meet an anime woman at a con in the same state. However, it's generally good practice to affirm the rationale behind a policy before implementing it if at all possible.
Without an explanation or justification as to why the policy is being implemented, this can very easily be interpreted as dismissal of the discomfort some people might have with this measure. You can dismiss the discomfort as silly or irrational, but if you're going to address it anyways (such as by providing clarifications to third parties like TVS in the hopes that they use their platforms to voice said clarifications on your behalf) then you'd be no less silly for failing to account for it in your initial statement.
It's understandable if the timing couldn't be helped. Sometimes things fall through the cracks. However, in the case that the timing couldn't have been altered, offering refunds for M&Gs to recipients who didn't feel comfortable with the new policy along with the announcement would've gone a long way towards softening the blow and giving people a general feeling of agency.
Timing aside though, there was no reason why the initial announcement couldn't have included 1) the scope of the policy being that it only applies to official M&Gs hosted by Offkai themselves or at the individual vendor's discretion (as was later stated by False in a post of his own), or 2) the reason for the policy in the first place.
People would be far more understanding of the policy if there was any effort by Offkai to justify its implementation. Others have already pointed out that it could be an anti-scalper measure, or a deterrent against malicious behaviour directed at the VTubers during M&Gs. The only issue is, all of these are reasons that have been speculated by those taking it upon themselves to advocate for the con and its staff. Without any affirming statement by Offkai, these possible justifications carry no more weight than the other (more nefarious) speculated motivations for this policy and require those speaking out to stick out their necks and potentially clash with segments of their own fanbase that might disagree with them (again, in the absence of anything more concrete).
As far as why some people might feel discomfort at this policy?: One of the most glaring flaws in Offkai's PR strategy surrounding bad actors is that, so far, it has been almost purely reactive.
The con is paying for that now.
CaptainNoFunisG was only removed from staff after people started raising a fuss on social media. GustavoBCc's removal wasn't even public knowledge until a staffer went to share that information with False days after Offkai addressed the issues during Phase's panel on their official accounts in a poorly received statement. Soundwave's claims about staffers trying to push out a specific talent two years ago still hasn't been acknowledged, denounced or formally dismissed.
These events set uncomfortable precedents for the con that convey two things: 1) Offkai has failed to vet extremists from its staff before, and 2) some of these extremists have nursed grudges against specific talents. Showing ID to volunteers to collect your con badge is one thing. Showing ID to volunteers while signalling you're a fan of a specific VTuber because you're lining up for a M&G with them is quite another. This is a PR hole that Offkai has dug for themselves.
However, it could've been at least partially mitigated if Offkai decided to put out a statement affirming that their vetting processes for staff had been improved in light of the debacle with CaptainNoFunisG (though that might be difficult considering he was allowed to "step down" 'voluntarily' from his position). Failing that, a formal commitment to enforcing penalties and blacklists against mishandling of sensitive con-goer information, even among staff and volunteers would've at least been a symbolic acknowledgement of prior failings and a commitment to bettering how the con operates.
This all starts with re-examining how Offkai handles its public communications - and there is one specific line in the original announcement that exemplifies why this is necessary:
"Please make sure you bring one before waiting to meet your oshi, or you won’t be able to attend the Meet & Greet!"
To be blunt, whoever wrote the second half of that phrase needs to be reassigned from your PR team. In the absence of any sort of explanation/justification or refund offer, it comes off condescending and blissfully (or willfully) ignorant of the uncomfortable precedents set by Offkai's own prior incompetence when it comes to vetting its public representatives.
For the past two years, Offkai has wanted to have its cake and eat it too: wanting to make decisions that might prove unpopular, but also sit back and wait for others to justify those decisions on their behalf. This is unsustainable, and frankly, things would go a lot better if they simply took the most basic steps to advocate for themselves, as a con, properly.
This isn't a lot, but I've outlined how some of their prior statements could've been handled better for less so here goes:
The most obvious way that this announcement could've gone over better is if it was made sooner.
Announcing it right after the lottery was done was a surefire way of priming people to feel like the timing was a deliberate choice in order to enforce compliance. People in this industry, especially dedicated fans, are generally willing to handwave away absurdities like not needing to show a government ID to vote in California but needing one to meet an anime woman at a con in the same state. However, it's generally good practice to affirm the rationale behind a policy before implementing it if at all possible.
Without an explanation or justification as to why the policy is being implemented, this can very easily be interpreted as dismissal of the discomfort some people might have with this measure. You can dismiss the discomfort as silly or irrational, but if you're going to address it anyways (such as by providing clarifications to third parties like TVS in the hopes that they use their platforms to voice said clarifications on your behalf) then you'd be no less silly for failing to account for it in your initial statement.
It's understandable if the timing couldn't be helped. Sometimes things fall through the cracks. However, in the case that the timing couldn't have been altered, offering refunds for M&Gs to recipients who didn't feel comfortable with the new policy along with the announcement would've gone a long way towards softening the blow and giving people a general feeling of agency.
Timing aside though, there was no reason why the initial announcement couldn't have included 1) the scope of the policy being that it only applies to official M&Gs hosted by Offkai themselves or at the individual vendor's discretion (as was later stated by False in a post of his own), or 2) the reason for the policy in the first place.
People would be far more understanding of the policy if there was any effort by Offkai to justify its implementation. Others have already pointed out that it could be an anti-scalper measure, or a deterrent against malicious behaviour directed at the VTubers during M&Gs. The only issue is, all of these are reasons that have been speculated by those taking it upon themselves to advocate for the con and its staff. Without any affirming statement by Offkai, these possible justifications carry no more weight than the other (more nefarious) speculated motivations for this policy and require those speaking out to stick out their necks and potentially clash with segments of their own fanbase that might disagree with them (again, in the absence of anything more concrete).
As far as why some people might feel discomfort at this policy?: One of the most glaring flaws in Offkai's PR strategy surrounding bad actors is that, so far, it has been almost purely reactive.
The con is paying for that now.
CaptainNoFunisG was only removed from staff after people started raising a fuss on social media. GustavoBCc's removal wasn't even public knowledge until a staffer went to share that information with False days after Offkai addressed the issues during Phase's panel on their official accounts in a poorly received statement. Soundwave's claims about staffers trying to push out a specific talent two years ago still hasn't been acknowledged, denounced or formally dismissed.
These events set uncomfortable precedents for the con that convey two things: 1) Offkai has failed to vet extremists from its staff before, and 2) some of these extremists have nursed grudges against specific talents. Showing ID to volunteers to collect your con badge is one thing. Showing ID to volunteers while signalling you're a fan of a specific VTuber because you're lining up for a M&G with them is quite another. This is a PR hole that Offkai has dug for themselves.
However, it could've been at least partially mitigated if Offkai decided to put out a statement affirming that their vetting processes for staff had been improved in light of the debacle with CaptainNoFunisG (though that might be difficult considering he was allowed to "step down" 'voluntarily' from his position). Failing that, a formal commitment to enforcing penalties and blacklists against mishandling of sensitive con-goer information, even among staff and volunteers would've at least been a symbolic acknowledgement of prior failings and a commitment to bettering how the con operates.
This all starts with re-examining how Offkai handles its public communications - and there is one specific line in the original announcement that exemplifies why this is necessary:
"Please make sure you bring one before waiting to meet your oshi, or you won’t be able to attend the Meet & Greet!"
To be blunt, whoever wrote the second half of that phrase needs to be reassigned from your PR team. In the absence of any sort of explanation/justification or refund offer, it comes off condescending and blissfully (or willfully) ignorant of the uncomfortable precedents set by Offkai's own prior incompetence when it comes to vetting its public representatives.
For the past two years, Offkai has wanted to have its cake and eat it too: wanting to make decisions that might prove unpopular, but also sit back and wait for others to justify those decisions on their behalf. This is unsustainable, and frankly, things would go a lot better if they simply took the most basic steps to advocate for themselves, as a con, properly.
From what I understand it's to deal with the increase in stalking. I can personally attest to some retarded rotund brown person from the groomcord stalking Sakana last year for the entire convention. As for the other cases, I have only hear from second hand accounts about weirdoes trying to find Chikafuji Lisa and the Idol girls.
OffKai released a statement in their FAQ section regarding the ID problem. It seems it was as most attendees/talents expected and was intended to prevent scalping and protect talents from the insane fans who'd try to do things with gifts to stalk them. They're offering refunds for those who felt blindsided by the policy being announced too late. They also are making sure the only people who see your ID are the same people you'd be showing it to at the entrance anyways, so the only people who'll know are the same people who already know.
But I basically agree with Armchair - the best way for OffKai to avoid any future drama is a good amount of transparancy from their staff about who's on it and their credentials, as well as actively trying to root out any potential moles on their staff. Whether they'll actually do that? I assume them having to release a statement like this meant that enough people who were actually attending the con were concerned for them to care. So it's a better likelihood than the last few years, but not by much.
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But I basically agree with Armchair - the best way for OffKai to avoid any future drama is a good amount of transparancy from their staff about who's on it and their credentials, as well as actively trying to root out any potential moles on their staff. Whether they'll actually do that? I assume them having to release a statement like this meant that enough people who were actually attending the con were concerned for them to care. So it's a better likelihood than the last few years, but not by much.
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Now that we know (now stated in the thread and emphasized by Pippa on stream) there were actual problems…
Would checking separately imply they’re potentially letting schizos slip through, just not to the meet and greets?
Not intentionally, but it’s strange policy, no? If you’re checking at the door for ID, you shouldn’t have to check again for individual VTubers. Those people should never be in the con in the first place. Feels like an oversight if not doing something about it at the door.
I assume doing it at the door again specifically is to deter people trying to swap M&G tickets while inside the con.
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