V&U - Proving that Koreans can be as bad as Singaporeans and Japanese.

[fern_._]

Any interesting papers/documentaries/etc that are worth looking at about this?

Do your own research, prostate

 

[The Proctor]

Do your own research, prostate

Oh hey there, Aia Amare. Does Nijisanji know you post here?

 

[Nenélove]

Oh hey there, Aia Amare. Does Nijisanji know you post here?

Is that actually a Niji? Would be funny if it was.
Nvm I just remembered they're one of your grooming victims from the queercord.

 

[fern_._]

I know it was a huge talking point on 4chan's /vg/ board for awhile because people were finding pinching gestures in Gacha and MMO games made by Koreans which got some people fired but I don't know any particularly worthwhile papers or documents regarding them outside of >wikipedia. also I misspelled their name it's Megalia. There's also another movement called Womad which split off from Megalia,

Edit: @The Proctor I found a 4chan collage while digging for a particular clip in /vg/'s archives: https://arch-img.b4k.co/vg/1603481830990.jpg
It's posts from 2016 from a Korean 4chan Anon

The Park Geun Hye shit wasn’t surprising, she’s the eldest daughter of one of Korea’s most notorious dictators. She probably had bigger skeletons in her closet.

 

[Planetary Bombardment]

Any interesting papers/documentaries/etc that are worth looking at about this?

Here's a start:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/daughters-of-megalia.25416/

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/feminist-cult-discovered-and-excised-from-south-korean-game-industry.176944/

Finally I skimmed this but it looks like an academic paper (written by a Korean woman in the West) about how great the Megalia shit is because all it's doing is calling attention to evil misogyny.

https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/191332210/KimY2020EJKSMirroringMisogynyInHell.pdf

 

[x Hades Stamps]

Still confused who is in the wrong or right here. I've never seen or heard Serafi so IDK why type of person she is. I assume she plays a seiso angel persona?

From what I’ve seen of angel VTubers, they tend to be anything but seiso

It's biased, but I'm more likely to believe something she says over the corpo.

Same, but also incredibly biased.

The blame of the situation seems to rest entirely on V&U’s shoulders, but that’s if we assume Serafi is telling the entire truth.

It does. At this point, they’re almost certainly far more liable and guilty, at the very least.

We have no way of verifying her claims, though, so I’ll just have to take them at face value.

For many of them that’s true, and we probably never will.

I don't have a reason to doubt her claims about V&U’s incompetencies and I have a suspicion that the “managers” that she’s been assigned have actually been interns

Unfortunately, you’re probably right about that.

There’s no way to salvage something after the core itself has rotten, just gotta pray something better comes to take its place.

Yup. At that point, you might as well just cut your losses.

Incompetency is a very common theme amongst failed VTuber agencies, and I’m surprised that nobody (aside from a select few) has learned a lesson.

Same for the black companies that still haven’t shut down, such as Nijisanji (yes, malice is definitely a major contributor to Niji’s badness, but so is incompetency).

At this point, I’m convinced that it’s safer to be an indie than a corpo VTuber. Hope V&U gets what they deserve and Serafi manages to grow despite this.

Finally figured that out?

Any country where the vast majority of the population believes that fans consume fucking oxygen and will asphyxiate you if left on is a country I wouldn't call "sane" or any other word which approaches that one in meaning.

Yeah, I remember reading about the BS that is “fan death,” and it’s one of the craziest things I’ve ever heard/read. I’ve fallen asleep countless times with fans blowing on me, and I ain’t dead yet. At least I don’t think I am.

Seoul is a cyberpunk dystopia, you don't need to squint your eyes. Samsung, SK, Hanwa and Hyundai own the government

I see you mentioned Hyundai. Does that also apply to Kia?

This is for all of the uninformed morons who keep reacting to this post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death I am not making shit up.

I really wish you were, but no, you’re not.

Do your own research, prostate

FYI, responding with that leads many people, myself included, to believe that you don’t actually have any sources on it.

 

[fern_._]

I see you mentioned Hyundai. Does that also apply to Kia?

Hyundai Motor Group owns 33% of Kia. (It also owns Boston Dynamics.)

 

[MerelyTourist]

Still confused who is in the wrong or right here. I've never seen or heard Serafi so IDK why type of person she is. I assume she plays a seiso angel persona?

Mucho seiso streamer.

 

[Kourai]

Cross-quoting for possible future reference:
Spectra Libitina of V&U announced the indefinite postponement of a cover release, claiming that the copyright holder informed V&U staff that they cannot use the song.

Spectra Libitina 🪦🫖 V&U on X: "However, I promise to work hard to make sure that day will come! I'll be cancelling my solo/non-event streams for the rest of the week (Thurs, Sat) to reset mentally; I apologise. Thank you always for your understanding

ghostarchive.org

 

[LinearMotorGun]

Gonna throw out the possibility that it's a V&U girl. There's a couple accs I see Yumia interact with including Goobi who appears to be a Gen4 V&U girl (Zeli), Mocha, and Noriko. I have absolutely nothing for Noriko, but Mocha's Twitch page mentions that she stopped streaming in June of 2023 due to her job which would not be dissimilar to her life as Mocha. Not very familiar with V&U but Gen 3 appeared to have debuted in July of 2023 and Gen 4 debuted in November.

I could be wrong, but I suspect this is more a sign of something possibly happening at V&U in the near future.

ETA: the tweets correlating Goobi and Zeli
Goobi complaining about wifi being out after maintenance workers left

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Zeli complaining about the same thing

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Crossposting from the vReverie thread, but here's some potential PL stuff of Zeli and a reply by me on who Mocha is.
My main reason here is to confirm that Mocha is a pl of of VNU girl, in this case Suri Solari of Gen 3. Not only are the interests more or less the same with mgs, bioshock, tf2, and wwe.
But Suri is rather open on being a former TF2 competitive player:

The mocha account is also open on such former profession as stated in here carrd and in the player profile provided:
https://mwocha.carrd.co/
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198136778702
The biggest and most obvious link, especially if you watch her, is that some of the regular viewers on the Suri channel follow Mocha on Twitter and commonly reply to her. This is all the more noticeable with GrimBaku, one of the paypigs who tends to commission skeb art for her. Of course, there are others, but he's the biggest and most obvious example.
(funnily enough I found this out because one of the regulars followed me back on twitter and had retweeted stuff from her which cause me to find out about the account, that said it took awhile connect the dots as back then the account was called Rumfull instead of Mocha)

 

[LinearMotorGun]

Consider me late on the Nexstage stuff, but it seems like the end of it has allowed the possibility of Labri coming back, who, if you don't know, became Echo Lyne in VNU Gen 3 Oracle. That said, this is pretty recent, so I don't know if this will go towards anything or if the account will just be a space for her to post what ever she wants.
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/sOWSE

 

[Euthyphro]

Crossposting from the vReverie thread, but here's some potential PL stuff of Zeli and a reply by me on who Mocha is.
My main reason here is to confirm that Mocha is a pl of of VNU girl, in this case Suri Solari of Gen 3. Not only are the interests more or less the same with mgs, bioshock, tf2, and wwe.
But Suri is rather open on being a former TF2 competitive player:

The mocha account is also open on such former profession as stated in here carrd and in the player profile provided:
https://mwocha.carrd.co/
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile?p=76561198136778702
The biggest and most obvious link, especially if you watch her, is that some of the regular viewers on the Suri channel follow Mocha on Twitter and commonly reply to her. This is all the more noticeable with GrimBaku, one of the paypigs who tends to commission skeb art for her. Of course, there are others, but he's the biggest and most obvious example.
(funnily enough I found this out because one of the regulars followed me back on twitter and had retweeted stuff from her which cause me to find out about the account, that said it took awhile connect the dots as back then the account was called Rumfull instead of Mocha)

Checked this out again. A couple of the V&U girls are actively receiving stuff on Throne via their alts. It's not unheard of for VTuber PLs, and not always a sign of trouble, but it is noteworthy.
Mocha is hard-confirmed as Suri. Suri alluded to a GPU upgrade just today...

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...15 hours after getting an RTX 4070 on Throne:

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Yumia (probably Amoria), has been getting a few things as well since creating this account in June:

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[Euthyphro]

V&U just got a 100K play button for their official channel (totally not botted btw):

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That's some real, natural growth:

As for the first play button, Maeve got it some time back

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An actual Korean corpo is marginally better than Niji.