TVA's DEADPOOL 2024 (and Morgue)

[Nenélove]

Termination, techincally. She terminated the contract herself.

Termination is a forcible dissolution of the contract by the agency due to a breach of its terms, which in most cases merits an immediate stop to any vtuber activities.
I don't believe a situation like Serafi's has ever been documented, mostly because the agency did not take any action for quite a while, but as of today's notice it could be called a termination if we ignore Serafi completely, I don't doubt similar cases have played out in other agencies, we just never get to see it. The company is usually the one who announces it and the reason is never such a blunt "the talent terminated the contract".

The difference between "termination" and "graduation" is simply the speed and general mood. Both terminate the contract, since the vtuber is no longer going to be working for the agency, but graduations are generally either in good terms or neutral, in a broader sense of Japanese culture a graduation doesn't affect the talent's reputation as much as a termination. Graduations can also take a while, like Coco's month long tour of victory or the goodbye streams other vtubers get.
A termination is sudden, takes effect immediately, freezes all of the vtuber's accounts and carries no positive feelings whatsoever.

Neither term is all inclusive, universally consistent or without exceptions.

Tl;Dr: I agree. Termination seems fitting, even if it isn't conventional by any means.

 

[MerelyTourist]

Termination is a forcible dissolution of the contract by the agency due to a breach of its terms, which in most cases merits an immediate stop to any vtuber activities.
I don't believe a situation like Serafi's has ever been documented, mostly because the agency did not take any action for quite a while, but as of today's notice it could be called a termination if we ignore Serafi completely, I don't doubt similar cases have played out in other agencies, we just never get to see it. The company is usually the one who announces it and the reason is never such a blunt "the talent terminated the contract".

Tl;Dr: I agree. Termination seems fitting, even if it isn't conventional by any means.

Termination/suspension of contract can be done unilaterally by any party. In this situation, it's "in the end, i found your contract garbage so i terminate it effective immediately despite anything that might be written in termination clause, cry about it", something along these lines.
It undermines company's credibility to say "our employee terminated/suspended the contract unilaterally", this is why we never see such wording.

 

[Nenélove]

Termination/suspension of contract can be done unilaterally by any party. In this situation, it's "in the end, i found your contract garbage so i terminate it effective immediately despite anything that might be written in termination clause, cry about it", something along these lines.

Yeah but in this industry the talent doesn't (usually) decide which it is. This is V&U's fault for not taking control of her accounts, not addressing the situation immediately and imposing some ridiculous terms on her just to leave it all in limbo. Contract disputes shouldn't be discussed in public, and I say that as a lawyer.

Most companies (Hololive) will 1. lock down the talent's accounts 2. Assess the situation 3. Enter talks with the talent 4. Start a formal investigation if necessary 5. Decide on a course of action based on the events 6. Put out a public notice 7. Carry out the course of action decided on

There is, or should be, a process to it. V&U (and a lot of other agencies) having no fucking clue about how to deal with these matters is their own damn issue.

 

[MerelyTourist]

Yeah but in this industry the talent doesn't (usually) decide which it is. This is V&U's fault for not taking control of her accounts, not addressing the situation immediately and imposing some ridiculous terms on her just to leave it all in limbo. Contract disputes shouldn't be discussed in public, and I say that as a lawyer.

Most companies (Hololive) will 1. lock down the talent's accounts 2. Assess the situation 3. Enter talks with the talent 4. Start a formal investigation if necessary 5. Decide on a course of action based on the events 6. Put out a public notice

I think it's all "obligatory bad actors of new industry" shit. I'm sure we will see many more leaks and public shit-flinging of varied legitimacy. It'll subside when all these contractual aspects will become common knowledge for both talents and agencies.
And maybe companies will learn that it's waaaay cheaper to just shut up, took an L and pay generously for silence.

 

[Nenélove]

I think it's all "obligatory bad actors of new industry" shit. I'm sure we will see many more leaks and public shit-flinging of varied legitimacy. It'll subside when all these contractual aspects will become common knowledge for both talents and agencies.
And maybe companies will learn that it's waaaay cheaper to just shut up, took an L and pay generously for silence.

Eh? Companies will never be at the behest of individuals, they'd rather go bankrupt first. It's only a matter of time until some jew or chink begins trying to normalize replacing VAs and the normies allow it to happen.

 

[DrStupid]

03/21/24​

Talent: Amano Serafi​

Affiliation: V&U ​

Graduation date: Immediate​

DETAILS:​

Serafi's situation is a particular one. She's the one who, alledgedly, decided to finish her contract. Serafi was in the news a little while ago when one of her mods posted on discord that she wouldn't come back to streaming. The situation has evolved on the past few days and her former agency, V&U, decided to post a statement about this, making her graduation official. Among other things, the agency will not only be issuing refunds for SC's and Memberships from Dec 2023 onwards, but also will be pursuing legal action against Serafi.

Tweet - archive
dedicated thread

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03/23/24​

Talent: Pochi Wanmaru​

Affiliation: IDOL EN (gen 1)​

Graduation date: Immediate​

DETAILS:​

Idol decided to terminate Pochi Wanmaru's contract after she made some tweets on her PL's profile claiming her "not starbucks" job wasn't paying her for the donothon she did back in december (said donothon was made to pay her expenses after moving to another country). She even went as far as to reply to some questions about aksing for refunds giving the "go ahead".
Sometime later Idol released their graduation statement, saying they talked things over in private with pochi, gave her the money they were witholding (because she still hasn't fulfilled most donothon goals, and they didn't want her to grab the money and leave without putting some work) while clearing the "misunderstandings", and will be giving refunds to donothon donors until april 10th because of this development.

Idol tweet - archive
Dedicated thread

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03/24/24​

Agency: AKIO AIR​

Disbanding date: Immediately​

DETAILS:​

Who? The ones that hired a minor, that's who. Simply put, Akio Air posted a tweet announcing they'd stop their vtubing management activities immedately and chlaked it up to financial reasons (not having made back their investments and a "hostile enviroment against business owners".
Tweet - archive - dedicated thread

 

[DrStupid]

I've been away for a while and I'm still catching up to the main thread. As far as I know, there hasn't been any new important graduations to report, right?

 

[UberSoldat]

I've been away for a while and I'm still catching up to the main thread. As far as I know, there hasn't been any new important graduations to report, right?

Other than Shondo taking a medical hiatus I guess

Oh shit, you're right. It was also one of your bets.
Gotta keep an eye on her then. (I hope she doesn't graduate tho, her clips are funny)

Not a graduation so far

 

[DrStupid]

Other than Shondo taking a medical hiatus I guess

Oh shit, you're right. It was also one of your bets.
Gotta keep an eye on her then. (I hope she doesn't graduate tho, her clips are funny)

 

[Xuhle]

I've been away for a while and I'm still catching up to the main thread. As far as I know, there hasn't been any new important graduations to report, right?

Naki is on indefinite hiatus.


One of the prism project girls.

Edit: hope that it for hololive or phase, and not nijisanji she's going to shes talented like a lot of the prism project girls.

 

[DrStupid]

05/01/24​

Agency: MyHoloTV​

Disbanding date: May 31st 2024 (kinda)​

DETAILS:​

Malasyan vtubing agency MyHoloTV announced they'll be ceasing operations on May 31st. In a weird twist of events, this isn't portrayed as a permanent thing, but rather a hiatus for the remainder of 2024, because they simply have not enough money to keep operating as normal.
Because of this, the 4 remaining talents have chosen 2 paths.

• Liliana Vampaia and Lunaris Urufi will renegotiate their contracts and will be kept under MyHoloTv, with very limited support.
• Liolia Lightbringer has acquired the character's IP and will continue as an indie.
• Karrot Keromi will go back to being -just- Karrot and continue as an indie.

MyHolo's socials will remain up until further notice. The agency is better known for having Miori Celesta and Marica Bellerose as former talents.

Tweet - Archive (not working)

Spoiler: local copy

 

[Tamavitch]

Offkai expo belongs here

 

[DrStupid]

Community Happenings

Eilene, one of the first Vtubers and the creator of the Natsumi Moe persona (who separated from Eilene's group and much later reincarnated as Shiori Novella), has posted a suicide note on Twitter (post with archives). Proctor Edit: For clarity, by 'creator', this means Eilene created Natsumi...

thevirtualasylum.com

I'm aware
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UberSoldat
Green Kitbash
Atlas
Gluten Paladin
God's Stronges Mozumite
Agility_
Bronze
x Hades Stamps
(and me)

you're all getting your points in a bit. I need to check the original posts and see the general context of yuko's graduation.

 

[DrStupid]

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05/27/24​

Talent: Yuko Yurei​

Affiliation: IDOL EN (gen 1)​

Graduation date: May 31st, 2024​

DETAILS:​

Yuko decided to graduate, probably due to the whole ordeal revolving around her dropping GFE type of content and her dwindling fanbase. Her graduation was announced by on Idol's twitter page. She did a 5 day marathon stream before graduating (apparently because it was one of the remaining donothon goals left).

tweet - local copy

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Lot's of folks predicted Yuko wouldn't survive the year, so there's a bunch of you that accured some points with her graduation. Let me try to award them properly (if there's anyting wrong or missing, please reply to this post). I won't tag everyone on the list, just not to spam you, but even if I'm mostly lurking, I'm still keeping track of points.

UberSoldat - +3 for Yuko, +1 on hold in case she starts leaning hard into GFE with her alt.
Greenkitbash/Ed O'neill - +3 for Yuko, +1 on hold. Same criteria.
Atlas - +3 for Yuko. Idol's not going under (yet) so that's it. We can come back to this one if anything happens during the next 6 months.
Dr.Supid (me) - just +3
Gluten Paladin/Paladin - +3, +1 on hold same criteria as Atlas.
God's Strongest Mozumite - +3, +1 on hold in case she comes back as Rye and gets into GFE content like she did as Yuko.
agility_ - +3, +1 on hold most of her zoomer audience turned her back on her after she tried to drop the GFE stuff, so we'd need to wait a bit and see how she behaves as Rye.
Bronze - +3. We don't know if her graduation is because she didn't renew her contract, It doesn't seem likely because it looks like it happened as soon as she got her donothon goals out of the way.
xHades Stamps - +3, +1 on hold. Same case as GSM's

 

[UberSoldat]

Was looking for my Yuko prediction here and found a prediction for Bobon. We all saw it coming tbh.

3. Bonnivier Pranaja - Graduation
Reasoning: Part of the continued former Niji-ID collapse/disintegration. Don't think there's been anything announced about him proper graduating yet (If there is, just let me know and I'll change my pick here), but it wouldn't surprise me if he moves on this year since most of former Niji-ID is already gone. Think he'll graduate before Hana does, if either of them go this year. (Also if this counts as a death row pick, I'll change it to a different one)

 

[DrStupid]

Was looking for my Yuko prediction here and found a prediction for Bobon. We all saw it coming tbh.

Cool, will fix that asap.

 

[Sky Shouter]

We should probably add a section for Abi Kabadura of V4Mirai

Link to original post

Judging by her Discord post (courtesy of @Tightpinch ), it's quite possible she isn't coming back to vtubing

 

[bunniedoll]

Am I too late to make guesses

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Am I too late to make guesses

You can always make guesses. But I imagine it'll be too late to hit that there scoreboard

 

[nooternun]

6/26/24​

Talent: Suzuka Utako​

Affiliation: Nijisanji​

Graduation date: 6/12/2024​

Profile​

DETAILS:​

No drama​

Graduation announcement: x : a || Talent: x : a
Last stream

Final words from me: Weeks ago we lost not just a hag, but a founding hag of this generation. Utako was the weird that ANYCOLOR was founded on.

6/26/24​

Talent: Shishio Chris​

Affiliation: Nanashi​

Graduation date: 5/24/24​

Profile​

DETAILS:​

No drama​

Graduation announcement: x : a

Spoiler: talent repost

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Last stream

She fucked up the last stream and it's in three parts so just watch this and her last 3D.
Final words from me: If more people could understand Japanese she would be a cult star.
New life: @inui_r18