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AkioAIR: Hiring a minor was only the tip of the mismanagement iceberg. How to destroy an agency in under 1 month.

Nenélove

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I'm pretty sure this is about that one corpo hiring a 15yo

I knew I had heard something similar coming from her. starting at 5:30:30

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Make of it what you will, all I can say is the tonal shift from silly games and HBD wishes to this, while she's wearing a bird onesie was one of the vtuber moments I'll never forget

Something silly to change the mood
 

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Where is this fag getting this info from? Or is he just pulling random shit from /vt/ without sources?
That's basically all he's doing. Some /vt/schizos are convinced that this girl and the one that got groomed in Mysteria are one and the same. There was a post that had a link to vods/clips of the girl's voice from Mysteria, to have others compare it and what not but that got nuked by a janny.
 

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I knew I had heard something similar coming from her. starting at 5:30:30

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Make of it what you will, all I can say is the tonal shift from silly games and HBD wishes to this, while she's wearing a bird onesie was one of the vtuber moments I'll never forget

Something silly to change the mood

damn i didnt know that mavia had baggage like that

also the purple woman sounds british who is that
 

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>"Corporation"
Let's be fucking honest, most of these tiny up-and-coming small corpos are just some dude with a shitload of money who hired 1 or 2 managers (who he knows from some dodgy discord) and a web designer, commissioned five models off etsy or vgen and then tricked some gullible desperate holo/niji rejects into being his personal waifu army which he controls over discord with barebones contracts and no direction whatsoever. If that qualifies as a "corporation" then me selling homemade cookies from my porch makes me the fucking keebler elf.

eSports went through this. Any online space seems to attract these types. I'm still not sure what they actually think they'll achieve, which is probably more thought than they've ever given to the long term aspects of the endeavor.

Anyone under the age of 18 should be banned from the internet.

I don't care how mature a young teenager is, they should not be given free access to all of the degeneracy and pornography that is on the internet, let alone opportunities for private conversations with adults who may not have the teen's best interests at heart.

Having helped a friend, just this past week, clean up a very serious mess involving a teenager & online stuff, I've had a chance to think about it. The primary issue is children growing up in the Instant Communication World. I believe that's what is doing most of the damage. Some percentage of them are so wired to instant feedback loops that they can't run out any logic loops and we're starting to see them hit their 20s.

It's partially the instant Dopamine, but it's the difference between being able to get a cookie by going to the kitchen and having a cookie the instant you move your hand to the side. Most humans cannot withstand that type of damage to cognitive development. Which is also reflected in their inability to understand the devices they use.

If they were not so stupid i would believe this is a fed honeypot

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Edit: Even their excuses are lame, THEY BROKE THEIR OWN GUIDELINES BY HIRING HER

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Still might be. You never know.

You grow up and learn things really fast when exposed to fucked up shit from young age, because you don't have a choice and either make it or get broken. Now take a look at Lia in how it usually turns out. Giving access to internet without some basic level info like "Don't tell your real name, address, age, school you go to, don't send your photos and don't voice call with strangers" is a horrible idea

Exposure to horrific content has life-long negative consequences for humans. There's a reason we shield a lot of topics from children. The problem is we've completely uncorked the filters and made it incredibly user friendly to get to.


I have an immense hatred for China and believe Truman belongs in Hell for not allowing MacArthur nuke the Chinks. However it is painfully obvious when they rarely do something right like how the content on tiktok is massively different in China. They're fully aware the effect the internet has on the youth, as should anyone with half a brain. The whole "you guys were on 4chan as kids, why are you against this?" argument is heavily flawed because those are the type of people that know how bad it can be. The current internet is also significantly different than what we grew up with, which has resulted in it being easier to groom children. One of the reasons I point to end up being ok was because I primarily used the internet as a kid to play MMOs and the MMO audience was a lot more responsible around children. At most they would teach the squeaker some curse words and get him to say some inappropriate stuff. Now the MMO audience will try to groom the kid and try to get them to cut off their dick. I'd much rather trust my kid with a WoW guild in 2004 than a WoW or FF14 guild from today.

The only issue is that China understands it too well. Thus it's actually a form of psychological warfare and used as such. TikTok simply needs to be banned.

As much as I don't like Internet controls, Social Media might not make it another 50 years. Societal survival might require banning it. At least the successor states to the current countries will probably come to that conclusion.

Or we just wall of the Internet into per-region networks that don't overlap.

i have no clue what they are doing, i remember bae mentioning 5 hour rehearsals at one point, but i don't know if the rehearsals are for the 3D debuts or something else and i think she mentioned that after the summer concert had already ended, i like to think they will just say they "went back" to japan but the whole thing will be pre-recorded, otherwise they are just being stupid and making their already busy talents even busier for no reason.

The Japanese Way when it comes to performances is to over practice them to tedium. It's also possible that rehearsal was also learning a dance choreo.
 

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PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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It's kumon the whole way down, rote memorization is their entire way of life.
The Japanese are always a bit floored the first time they watch Westerners test a few things then break out into high-level skill application. Though the fact Western thought has strong self-selection of groups to specific intended competencies, rather than taking someone with potential & desire and making them into that skill set makes it all very different.
 

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eSports went through this. Any online space seems to attract these types. I'm still not sure what they actually think they'll achieve, which is probably more thought than they've ever given to the long term aspects of the endeavor.
IMO, some of them are groomers that see an easy way to get a bunch of idiot egirls into their dms so they can do some degen shit later on, others simply chase the dream because they see Holo and Niji and go "THAT LOOKS SO STUPID EASY! I COULD DO THAT AND BECOME RICH AND FAMOUS LIKE THEM!", it's like the old youtube let's player dream, you see antvenom get millions of subs playing minekra and think "Damn if this retard can do it then so can I!" but you don't realize 5000 other morons had the exact same idea.

And really if you think about it real hard the only agencies that have risen to mild relevance since 2020 are VSPO, Vshojo, Neoporte (big in japan esports) and mayyybe phase and idol. Everyone else is either fucking dead or still shaky on their feet, tsunderia and cyberlive are dead, kawaii got shot in the side, prism was sold to sony, wactor and myholotv are black company garbage, many of the others are too small/new to even care about or consider atm.

I guess my point is that wayyyy too many people think that running an agency is some easy shit that anyone can do, and you see it with the amount of people who shit on the big agencies and go "I know what they should do! I know better!". Starting an agency is easy, running one is harder and actually taking it from backyard sticks-and-ducktape level to multimillion conglomerate has only been done twice.
 
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Where is this fag getting this info from? Or is he just pulling random shit from /vt/ without sources?
It appears one of the new members has possibly been posting revealing information on /vt/. They made this post showing their model prior to it seemingly being revealed anywhere else at the time.
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https://warosu.org/vt/thread/56237344#p56403805
They go on to self dox themselves, along with making those accusations bannedvtmemes is repeating.
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They're also involved in a number of posts touching on the AkioAir Gen 2 auditions which apparently were a massive shitshow where all the applicants were mass invited to an 'interview discord server' and could freely interact with one another. This is on top of AkioAir sharing all the applicants email addresses by replying to everyone who applied and not blinding the recipients list.

This is possibly them? Account is followed by at least one other known PL account of the Gen 2 girls.

Regarding the underage girl, the rrat seems to be that she is the Valera Kitsu, the girl who was groomed at MysteriaLive at the age of 14, she then moved on and joined another predatory microcorp called AuroraLiveVR where she was known as Charlotte Kaneko, before leaving and joining AkioAir. A few posts claiming to know her and making unfounded accusations like how she has abusive parents, and that she's been effectively groomed most of her teen years. Tragic, if there is truth to any of it.

Another little funny thing is that while the Gen 2 girls have been doing this predebut vtweeter storm, revealing their models piecemeal every day, all the designs were already leaked back in July.


I feel exceptionally bad for Maria Paradisa, fucked over by yunity (aka proto-Cyberlive), Tsunderia disbands just prior to her debut, and now this shitstorm (she's Chiyo the chinchilla girl).
 
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niggaphil

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Rumor going around that Akio Air hired a 15 year old for their new gen. Evidence towards this posted by the company themselves.

this company is in taiwan? My area of expertise. If someone could provide me some general info, i will go to sniff around taiwan forum, and see what shit i can dig out:smugselen:

i could read some chink language, and ask local vtuber information about it

note: working at the moment, so i would only start digging 7 hours later
 

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It appears one of the new members has possibly been posting revealing information on /vt/. They made this post showing their model prior to it seemingly being revealed anywhere else at the time.View attachment 43840 https://warosu.org/vt/thread/56237344#p56403805
They go on to self dox themselves, along with making those accusations bannedvtmemes is repeating.
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They're also involved in a number of posts touching on the AkioAir Gen 2 auditions which apparently were a massive shitshow where all the applicants were mass invited to an 'interview discord server' and could freely interact with one another. This is on top of AkioAir sharing all the applicants email addresses by replying to everyone who applied and not blinding the recipients list.

This is possibly them? Account is followed by at least one other known PL account of the Gen 2 girls.

View attachment 43844Regarding the underage girl, the rrat seems to be that she is the Valera Kitsu, the girl who was groomed at MysteriaLive at the age of 14, she then moved on and joined another predatory microcorp called AuroraLiveVR where she was known as Charlotte Kaneko, before leaving and joining AkioAir. A few posts claiming to know her and making unfounded accusations like how she has abusive parents, and that she's been effectively groomed most of her teen years. Tragic, if there is truth to any of it.

Another little funny thing is that while the Gen 2 girls have been doing this predebut vtweeter storm, revealing their models piecemeal every day, all the designs were already leaked back in July.


I feel exceptionally bad for Maria Paradisa, fucked over by yunity (aka proto-Cyberlive), Tsunderia disbands just prior to her debut, and now this shitstorm (she's Chiyo the chinchilla girl).

Someone also dropped this post well over a week before the announcement was made. Possibly same leaker?
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It appears one of the new members has possibly been posting revealing information on /vt/. They made this post showing their model prior to it seemingly being revealed anywhere else at the time.View attachment 43840 https://warosu.org/vt/thread/56237344#p56403805
They go on to self dox themselves, along with making those accusations bannedvtmemes is repeating.
View attachment 43841
View attachment 43844
They're also involved in a number of posts touching on the AkioAir Gen 2 auditions which apparently were a massive shitshow where all the applicants were mass invited to an 'interview discord server' and could freely interact with one another. This is on top of AkioAir sharing all the applicants email addresses by replying to everyone who applied and not blinding the recipients list.

This is possibly them? Account is followed by at least one other known PL account of the Gen 2 girls.

View attachment 43844Regarding the underage girl, the rrat seems to be that she is the Valera Kitsu, the girl who was groomed at MysteriaLive at the age of 14, she then moved on and joined another predatory microcorp called AuroraLiveVR where she was known as Charlotte Kaneko, before leaving and joining AkioAir. A few posts claiming to know her and making unfounded accusations like how she has abusive parents, and that she's been effectively groomed most of her teen years. Tragic, if there is truth to any of it.

Another little funny thing is that while the Gen 2 girls have been doing this predebut vtweeter storm, revealing their models piecemeal every day, all the designs were already leaked back in July.


I feel exceptionally bad for Maria Paradisa, fucked over by yunity (aka proto-Cyberlive), Tsunderia disbands just prior to her debut, and now this shitstorm (she's Chiyo the chinchilla girl).

>Jason set a hard rule that none of us can have boyfriends even though most of us entered the company with one and is threatening to fire if we keep them.
1 Get fucked Jason lol 2 Staaaahhhp, you're throwing money away! You can have 10 boyfriends just DON'T admit it on your VTuber, money go flush! Not that this comp is going anywhere anyways...
>The entire company is mismanaged but instead of fixing it he forces us to play league on call.
Many such cases :Vesper-UNHINGED::fishmandispair:
 

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this company is in taiwan? My area of expertise. If someone could provide me some general info, i will go to sniff around taiwan forum, and see what shit i can dig out:smugselen:

i could read some chink language, and ask local vtuber information about it
So far the company is tawainese but the kid may or may not be. apparently she needs to stream 3 times a week with 20 hrs minimum a month. seems like "performaning arts in previous career" could be actress work in commercials, theatre, kids shows.
 

niggaphil

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Good call. Gimme a minute to whip something up.
may want to add this infornation.

looks like the reason company dare to hire her is due to Taiwan age of work regulation:


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So far the company is tawainese but the kid may or may not be. apparently she needs to stream 3 times a week with 20 hrs minimum a month. seems like "performaning arts in previous career" could be actress work in commercials, theatre, kids shows.
to be honest, taiwan company usually do not hire oversea vtuber, so it would be more easy managable.

Even if they hired oversea vtuber, they still do not break the 15 years old labor law. Gonna be hard fucking with them
 

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I’ve been familiar with AkioAir for a while. The first gen is pretty good, especially Athena and MEW. They did have one of the members, RoaFen, graduate. My understanding was that it was due to essentially creative differences. The company wasn’t interested in some of the content that she wanted to make. If I recall correctly, it was niche stuff like radio dramas and choose your own adventure story videos.

Perhaps I never paid close enough attention but these kind of horrendous managerial decisions weren’t present with their first gen. They even did alright by scouting Kion after a deal with another indie vtuber fell through. For reference, Athena was an indie prior to joining under the same name but she got a model upgrade when joining. I believe the rest of the talents besides Athena were new.
 
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Why is Rie following the child, btw?
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@superduper Would you like to explain yourself?
 

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Well this is a first for me, usually a corpo has to have at least debutted its talents before they declare or twitlong about how awful the owner is.
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