"Also, did you guys know I learned what a 'chuuba' is yesterday through Uruka? I was like, 'Uruka, people keep saying 'chuuba,' what the heck is 'chuuba?' The only chuuba I know is like, shuuba-dooba-doo-shuuba-doobidy-doo!!!!' What was that thing? Is it the Flintstones?"Chisaka Airi

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Smelliest007

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I'll take things that didn't happen for $500, Alex.

 
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Serbian Peacemakers

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This was in-between bint responding to DM's from totally real and notable Vtubers thanking him personally for calling Doki Fan's violent Neo-Nazis and fighting against the Eval 4channers in the wholesome chungus Vtuber scene.

In all honesty I can totally see a complete retard reaching out to bint and talking about hiring a bitcoin assassin to kill false, I can 100% see some manchild doing that.
 

Superduper Samurai

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Smelliest007

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This was in-between bint responding to DM's from totally real and notable Vtubers thanking him personally for calling Doki Fan's violent Neo-Nazis and fighting against the Eval 4channers in the wholesome chungus Vtuber scene.

In all honesty I can totally see a complete retard reaching out to bint and talking about hiring a bitcoin assassin to kill false, I can 100% see some manchild doing that.
"Am I causing radicalization of mentally ill fujoshis?"
"No, it's the dramatubers who are at fault."
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Limkin

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Could they wait a couple days more with infighting, opening a Christmas present before 1st is bad manners
 

Style

Shit's still wack, yo!
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Surprised that this hasn't been posted yet. Apparently (can't check right now , yahoo JP shenanigans) a Yahoo article about "Company Y" being WAY worse than Cover when it comes down to paying artists, people are speculating that company Y is Anycolor, it tracks
Hololive's violation of the Subcontract Act is just the tip of the iceberg: Stakeholders and creators talk about the "realities" of the VTuber industry

"The price of Cover is several times higher than that of other companies."
However, in the course of further interviews, several creators also pointed out the ordering conditions of another company in the cover industry, Company Y. What became clear in the course of further interviews was that, in comparison, the cover was probably on the "better side." An illustrator who has worked with Company Y said, "Even if we negotiate the price for the revision work, they reject us, saying, 'The character design is set at this fixed budget.' It's fine if they can say, 'In that case, we can't do any more revisions,' but if they say, 'I only want to put my own hands into it,' we have no choice but to accept it even if it exceeds the price." (Mr. R) Even before this violation of the Subcontract Act came to light, several creators around me had said, "VTuber illustration work is not worth it." For example, in the case of illustrations for VTubers' Live2D, the character model is based on the illustration, so the work is unique compared to regular illustration work, such as dividing parts and managing layers. Therefore, I thought they meant, "It's difficult because it requires a lot of man-hours," but through the interviews, I learned that this is not all. "I don't think it's worth it to charge Company Y at least three times the normal amount. If you want to do it comfortably, you need four times the normal amount. Even if you accept it for that amount, it's a mystery how many days it takes people to finish it." (Mr. R) "Everyone wants to know the going rate, so creators often talk to each other about how much they're willing to pay. We often hear that Company Y is too cheap. For similar projects, the price between the cover and Company Y was several times higher." (Mr. E) It is possible that the cover was ordered at a higher price than the going rate, but in any case, pricing standards vary even within the industry, and it seems that orders can be placed at a very low price if there is someone willing to take it on.

"Creators are replaceable to companies" and "exploitation of motivation"
In many cases, new costumes for VTubers after their debut are handled by other illustrators. Some people say, "I once did it, but it was harder than I thought, so I stopped taking it on." E, mentioned above, continues, "When I look at my friends who are taking on work for Company Y, they seem happy to do it even if it's low-paying. Many creators are fans of Company Y's talents, and I hear them say, 'I didn't get the amount I wanted, but I wanted to do it anyway.' I'm the same, but in the end, creators are replaceable, so if you turn down a job, someone else will just do it." Although it is up to the creator to accept or not accept a job, the Subcontract Act also includes a section that prohibits "low-paying". R, who has been active as an illustrator for a long time, also mentioned how to get along with the doujin culture. "In the otaku industry up until now, even if a company ordered a low amount, it was common to be able to recoup some of the money through doujin activities afterwards. But the VTuber companies (that I did business with) had a stance of "don't do it if possible" even for doujin activities. I can understand the reasoning behind this, since the copyrights have been purchased and the company's share will be reduced. But that makes it even more dissatisfied with the order amount." Video director L, who is commissioned by multiple companies and major individual VTubers and also orders video production from individual editors, talks about the reality of production. "I get the impression that many people are motivated by 'I do it because I love it.' They say, 'I'm happy to be able to help my favorite and get paid.' Especially with cut-out videos, it's all the more difficult because you have to constantly keep up with the distribution. Unfortunately, I think there are cases where the ordering party takes advantage of this feeling and asks for a low price." Because VTubers have a centripetal force, they receive requests that could be called "exploitation of motivation," and the reality is that they respond because they love it. Considering that these unhealthy transactions are taking place behind the scenes, this cover incident can be said to be just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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Smelliest007

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Surprised that this hasn't been posted yet. Apparently (can't check right now , yahoo JP shenanigans) a Yahoo article about "Company Y" being WAY worse than Cover when it comes down to paying artists, people are speculating that company Y is Anycolor, it tracks
Hololive's violation of the Subcontract Act is just the tip of the iceberg: Stakeholders and creators talk about the "realities" of the VTuber industry

"The price of Cover is several times higher than that of other companies."
However, in the course of further interviews, several creators also pointed out the ordering conditions of another company in the cover industry, Company Y. What became clear in the course of further interviews was that, in comparison, the cover was probably on the "better side." An illustrator who has worked with Company Y said, "Even if we negotiate the price for the revision work, they reject us, saying, 'The character design is set at this fixed budget.' It's fine if they can say, 'In that case, we can't do any more revisions,' but if they say, 'I only want to put my own hands into it,' we have no choice but to accept it even if it exceeds the price." (Mr. R) Even before this violation of the Subcontract Act came to light, several creators around me had said, "VTuber illustration work is not worth it." For example, in the case of illustrations for VTubers' Live2D, the character model is based on the illustration, so the work is unique compared to regular illustration work, such as dividing parts and managing layers. Therefore, I thought they meant, "It's difficult because it requires a lot of man-hours," but through the interviews, I learned that this is not all. "I don't think it's worth it to charge Company Y at least three times the normal amount. If you want to do it comfortably, you need four times the normal amount. Even if you accept it for that amount, it's a mystery how many days it takes people to finish it." (Mr. R) "Everyone wants to know the going rate, so creators often talk to each other about how much they're willing to pay. We often hear that Company Y is too cheap. For similar projects, the price between the cover and Company Y was several times higher." (Mr. E) It is possible that the cover was ordered at a higher price than the going rate, but in any case, pricing standards vary even within the industry, and it seems that orders can be placed at a very low price if there is someone willing to take it on.

"Creators are replaceable to companies" and "exploitation of motivation"
In many cases, new costumes for VTubers after their debut are handled by other illustrators. Some people say, "I once did it, but it was harder than I thought, so I stopped taking it on." E, mentioned above, continues, "When I look at my friends who are taking on work for Company Y, they seem happy to do it even if it's low-paying. Many creators are fans of Company Y's talents, and I hear them say, 'I didn't get the amount I wanted, but I wanted to do it anyway.' I'm the same, but in the end, creators are replaceable, so if you turn down a job, someone else will just do it." Although it is up to the creator to accept or not accept a job, the Subcontract Act also includes a section that prohibits "low-paying". R, who has been active as an illustrator for a long time, also mentioned how to get along with the doujin culture. "In the otaku industry up until now, even if a company ordered a low amount, it was common to be able to recoup some of the money through doujin activities afterwards. But the VTuber companies (that I did business with) had a stance of "don't do it if possible" even for doujin activities. I can understand the reasoning behind this, since the copyrights have been purchased and the company's share will be reduced. But that makes it even more dissatisfied with the order amount." Video director L, who is commissioned by multiple companies and major individual VTubers and also orders video production from individual editors, talks about the reality of production. "I get the impression that many people are motivated by 'I do it because I love it.' They say, 'I'm happy to be able to help my favorite and get paid.' Especially with cut-out videos, it's all the more difficult because you have to constantly keep up with the distribution. Unfortunately, I think there are cases where the ordering party takes advantage of this feeling and asks for a low price." Because VTubers have a centripetal force, they receive requests that could be called "exploitation of motivation," and the reality is that they respond because they love it. Considering that these unhealthy transactions are taking place behind the scenes, this cover incident can be said to be just the tip of the iceberg.
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BlacklistedAloupeep

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Not-Reimu says this. Seriously though the more you talk about this the worse it looks for you.


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Bravo, Reimu. All of that egosearching taught you literally nothing about NOT poking the hornet's nest.

Now even I believe you TRULY belong to the clique, despite you not even interacting with said clique these days.

Please don't graduate so that you keep doing this :rikutazumi:
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Joined:  Mar 20, 2023

Bint "i have full time job" Esquire
Welp, time for me to update my "Bint is a lunatic spamming online" data.
>full time job
I'm calling bullshit. I examined their posts/day back on October 26th.

Nbinted started his twitter account in December 2021 and has 12.3k posts.
Best case assuming December 1st (1060 days):
11.60 posts a day
Worst case assuming December 31st (1030 days):
11.94 posts a day

They had 12.3k posts by October 26th but as of today, they are now at 15.1k posts. That's 2,800 posts over 39 days. Averaging that to a daily posting rate, that's 71.79 posts per day. This retard doesn't have a full time job.
They had 15.1k posts as of December 4th. As of today, they are now at 17.2k by December 28th. That's 2,100 posts over 24 days. Averaging that to a daily posting rate, that's 87.5 posts per day. That is a 21.8% posting increase. Holy fucking shit, they are absolutely unhinged and they are becoming even worse. This retard is absolutely mentally ill and they DO NOT have a full time job despite what they claim.
 

CalciumAnimal

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sbm

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The Proctor

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Saturnus

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I know you know this but for our site admins, this was from December 2021
It's a CROPPED screenshot from 2021.
If he didn't crop it, anyone would've been able to tell what timeframe it came from because she's in a voice call over discord with Nina Kosaka.
 
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MerelyTourist

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i know of several "full time jobs" where you exist to fill space so i would not be too certain.
Well yep, Proctor's new oshi Soymilk (which i FOUND FIRST! fuck off with your grubby irish fingers!) coasted 2 months literally clocking in, going home and whatever, then return just to clock out.
And let's not forget infamous "working at twitter" video.
 

God's Strongest Wardog

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I can't tell who's Jewing Gay Op-ing who anymore.:dokiWTF:
 

Dispirited Helmet

1% evil, 99% hot gas, 101% bad at math
Joined:  Feb 29, 2024
It's a CROPPED screenshot from 2021.
If he didn't crop it, anyone would've been able to tell what timeframe it came from because she's in a voice call over discord with Nina Kosaka.
Can't trust Enna's pet schizo, even when he's telling the truth about something. One of these days I'll be motivated enough to tag the fuck with a title so newfags know to ignore him.




Also, Reimu Endou from Nijisanji English, who ego-searches herself frequently, doesn't seem to understand. Former fans want her to be unhappy in the company because that would imply that she's a good person unhappy with a bad situation, instead of a raging cliquey bitch who values personal benefits over her suicidal co-workers.


...I need a drink. Even when I haven't watched for a year the retards manage to make me feel like an asshole for ever paying attention to them.
 

Smelliest007

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Can't trust Enna's pet schizo, even when he's telling the truth about something. One of these days I'll be motivated enough to tag the fuck with a title so newfags know to ignore him.




Also, Reimu Endou from Nijisanji English, who ego-searches herself frequently, doesn't seem to understand. Former fans want her to be unhappy in the company because that would imply that she's a good person unhappy with a bad situation, instead of a raging cliquey bitch who values personal benefits over her suicidal co-workers.


...I need a drink. Even when I haven't watched for a year the retards manage to make me feel like an asshole for ever paying attention to them.
Is he really the Ennaschizo?
 

Dispirited Helmet

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Is he really the Ennaschizo?
Writing style is very similar. Same with the endless, barely on-topic posts of weirdly edited screenshots and such. And then there's the potential enna alt we found here because the account had posted on a Proctor stream. Wasn't known on /vt/ as far as I'm aware, but immediately after we noticed it here a schizo immediately started touching the poo and ranting at "Enna" until the unconfirmed alt account went private.

If it looks like a spade, and rants like a spade, and needs copious medication like a spade, it's probably a spade. Unless it's a Jamby alt or something :pomuStare:

EDIT: @Punished Lurker would actually know better than me, to be completely fair. Personally, I am fairly convinced it's the actual schizo.
 

El Rrata

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God's Strongest Wardog

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