"Rather than unnecessarily extending the number of new VTuber debuts, our plan is to engage in solid productions at a pace which doesn't dilute the brand value of hololive productions, and to generate new debuts that contribute to the enhancement of the brand value"Kaneko Yosuke, CFO hololive

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Zizara

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Even in their wildest dreams they cannot imagine someone from their company will win an award, they just assume it would be people who quit. Says quite a lot about their honest opinion
Especially since Nijisanji was given a pretty fair shake and a respectably unbiased presentation by the people running the 2023 awards. Sure most of the winners were split between Hololive and indies, that's just the audience bias speaking, but Niji did get plenty of nominations and won a few categories. Not the awards fault that Niji went on to unperson Selen afterwards.
And their "Vtubing History" presentation was pretty favourable to Nijisanji and gave their fair dues on their various innovations and important landmarks within the industry, enough that you had Holotourists wondering why it hadn't just been all about how Cover invented vtubing. The whole thing was pretty fair - you even had people here defending it in the face of others who wanted them to be more anti-Niji.
Expecting a beating before there's even been any indication of one is nuts. I don't expect Niji will be taking any awards to be fair, but that's because Hololive has had an absolute banger of a year and Niji...hasn't, even if you exclude all the drama.
 
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Limkin

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Expecting a beating before there's even been any indication of one is nuts. I don't expect Niji will be taking any awards to be fair, but that's because Hololive has had an absolute banger of a year and Niji...hasn't, even if you exclude all the drama.
Mario Kart tournament with a bunch of EN livers is as interesting as an entire 50+ people company running a GTA RP server across 3 branches and you can't tell anyone otherwise
 

La+ de Central Norte

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Especially since Nijisanji was given a pretty fair shake and a respectably unbiased presentation by the people running the 2023 awards. Sure most of the winners were split between Hololive and indies, that's just the audience bias speaking, but Niji did get plenty of nominations and won a few categories. Not the awards fault that Niji went on to unperson Selen afterwards.
And their "Vtubing History" presentation was pretty favourable to Nijisanji and gave their fair dues on their various innovations and important landmarks within the industry, enough that you had Holotourists wondering why it hadn't just been all about how Cover invented vtubing. The whole thing was pretty fair - you even had people here defending it in the face of others who wanted them to be more anti-Niji.
Expecting a beating before there's even been any indication of one is nuts. I don't expect Niji will be taking any awards to be fair, but that's because Hololive has had an absolute banger of a year and Niji...hasn't, even if you exclude all the drama.
Even if it Pains me to say it that "history" lacked Brave Group/Unlimited and .Live,774,UP8,etc
I dont think you could atribute the "creation" of Vtubing to anyone because everyone just got their own style even back in 2016 with Pre-recorded videos before streaming became the main option
As for Nijisanji i think it wouls be unfair to brush off the JP branch for what the EN one did but meh :botanshrug:
 

Limkin

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I was watching Daiya's return stream, and apparently she and Vivi have been hanging out for the past 4 months. Also she is happy that Vivi graduated. I am not entirely surprised she is very straightforward about it, given all her favorite Niji members are not with the company anymore, but straight up "I am happy for her" and not just "I wish her the best" is more than you would expect from a corpo vtuber. So don't act too surprised if she joins PixelLink
 

MerelyTourist

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Clown Penis

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While NijiEN members have to apologise for using McDonalds assets, their JP counterpart is promoting more bombardment for 250 yens each.


Her name "Snow White Paradise El Santo Flow Wasurena Pure Princess Livre Love Heidern Dokodoko Yattaze Valkyria Passion Alfr Noel Chakoboshi Eluaria Frosia Made-in Bloom Elu" might need to have genocide added somewhere.

The hidden replies are certainly a bit halal..

It's just funny coincidence. Funnier still is there's no Nijisisters. :SelenHAHAhere:
 

CalciumAnimal

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honestly surprised it's not a NFT game. Looks like Radical Heights in both theme and tone (or what radical heights was trying to be) but like watch the gameplay in the trailer it's another apex clone with worse animations the dying montage where the other character just stops in place after being shot kinda gives the quality away.

Why even make this if triple A goyslop can't even last a week what hope does this half baked project have?
 

Bug Eater

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Expecting a beating before there's even been any indication of one is nuts. I don't expect Niji will be taking any awards to be fair, but that's because Hololive has had an absolute banger of a year and Niji...hasn't, even if you exclude all the drama.
Outside of their chances of winning + the Nijisister victim complex, there's also the fact that they've spent a fairly large amount of time shitting on Filian - I think that sense of pride is probably the biggest reason that they don't want to shill their chuubas for these awards. Considering it's just a numbers game I think they could at least get nominated for some categories.
 

Smelliest007

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honestly surprised it's not a NFT game. Looks like Radical Heights in both theme and tone (or what radical heights was trying to be) but like watch the gameplay in the trailer it's another apex clone with worse animations the dying montage where the other character just stops in place after being shot kinda gives the quality away.

Why even make this if triple A goyslop can't even last a week what hope does this half baked project have?
Money and exposure, dear boy.
 

MerelyTourist

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honestly surprised it's not a NFT game. Looks like Radical Heights in both theme and tone (or what radical heights was trying to be) but like watch the gameplay in the trailer it's another apex clone with worse animations the dying montage where the other character just stops in place after being shot kinda gives the quality away.
The game is in beta, not even publicly available yet...
Why even make this if triple A goyslop can't even last a week what hope does this half baked project have?
Well, at least more than DEI troonslop i guess. People want new multiplayer shooters, someone gotta take risk and make them.
 

CalciumAnimal

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The game is in beta, not even publicly available yet...

Well, at least more than DEI troonslop i guess. People want new multiplayer shooters, someone gotta take risk and make them.
Then the question becomes why the hell do you have a trailer for something in PRE ALPHA and showing off it's gameplay that will look horrid.

Good luck to them but this seems extremely stupid it's an already oversaturated market and people like me are gonna stick to TF2 or ARMA or Day Z or Holdfast or Rising Storm or Verdun or Mordhou or TABS or HHH or PUBG or APEX or Fortnite or CoD or Helldivers or Warthunder or Siege or Halo Infinite or Left for Dead 2 or Payday 2 or Battlefield or Among Us or Valorant or Crossout or Warface or Ghost Recon or GITS:SAC:1st Assault Online or The Division or Concord or Titanfall or Anthem or Space Marine 2 or 50 Cent Blood in the Sand.

there did i get them all?
 

MerelyTourist

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Good luck to them but this seems extremely stupid it's an already oversaturated market and people like me are gonna stick to TF2 or ARMA or Day Z or Holdfast or Rising Storm or Verdun or Mordhou or TABS or HHH or PUBG or APEX or Fortnite or CoD or Helldivers or Warthunder or Siege or Halo Infinite or Left for Dead 2 or Payday 2 or Battlefield or Among Us or Valorant or Crossout or Warface or Ghost Recon or GITS:SAC:1st Assault Online or The Division or Concord or Titanfall or Anthem or Space Marine 2 or 50 Cent Blood in the Sand.

there did i get them all?
One of these games is not like the others...
And i said new shooters. There is power vacuum in movement shooters, Apex is dying.
 

CalciumAnimal

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Gintoki

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The graduations will continue until morale improves.
 
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Helkar

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What grounds are there to even begin to suggest that graduations are over, lol. I'd understand if there was some basis for it.
Can't even argue that none of the livers are graduation-baiting on their PLs, because Vivi, if i recall correctly, also didn't, she just quietly waited for her turn to bolt.
 

JusticeDog

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What grounds are there to even begin to suggest that graduations are over, lol. I'd understand if there was some basis for it.
Can't even argue that none of the livers are graduation-baiting on their PLs, because Vivi, if i recall correctly, also didn't, she just quietly waited for her turn to bolt.
At the very least, it's extremely unlikely that anyone participating in the concerts in December (which is all of EN, except I think Fulgur and Alban) and February will be graduating until that's over.
 

Limkin

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At the very least, it's extremely unlikely that anyone participating in the concerts in December (which is all of EN, except I think Fulgur and Alban) and February will be graduating until that's over.
They always used to add that participants are a subject to change without prior notice and with no refunds to all of their events, even that is crawling into a copium territory
 

MythicalSloth

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At the very least, it's extremely unlikely that anyone participating in the concerts in December (which is all of EN, except I think Fulgur and Alban) and February will be graduating until that's over.

March Madness takes on a new meaning.
 

Smelliest007

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What grounds are there to even begin to suggest that graduations are over, lol. I'd understand if there was some basis for it.
Can't even argue that none of the livers are graduation-baiting on their PLs, because Vivi, if i recall correctly, also didn't, she just quietly waited for her turn to bolt.
Pure copium that graduations might be paused for December because of concert and holiday shenanigans. Paused = stopped in sister brains?
 

MerelyTourist

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What grounds are there to even begin to suggest that graduations are over, lol.
copium fields

We'll see if someone silently stop activities in dec/jan, but almost all likely to leave contracts are ending in spring and summer anyway.
 
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