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Superduper Samurai

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You know it's bad when the phaseshills beg you to NOT join their corpo.
Mainly the allegations, vshojo will take them though.
Imagine the rabid autism of a Phase Fan if Finana pulled the L+ Ratio Parasocial fucks there
 

Latte'Ninba

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I'm approaching this from a different angle. I think Niji is going to be downsizing EN and getting rid of "underperforming" talents. Aster gets no views and no money, so Niji will be the ones getting rid of him, he won't have a say in it.


Kotoka is the slam dunk, she hasn't streamed for over two months. Other than that I think it's going to mostly follow contract renewals being declined: I'm not sure when the different gens signed on but IMO it's going to progress wave by wave.
This might be a bit.. shallow as a comment, but outside of a couple of like 3 of the men♀️: who ISN'T underperforming exactly? Last I thought we knew everyone in the branch except like 3 people are almost worse than random indies. This is why I just assumed they'll fold it into one overall global "branch" at some point. Most the newbies are eating shit, the old guard/ogs are slinking away, and everyone is basically just waiting for anyone still likeable to peace out. So yeah I dunno.
 

frz

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This might be a bit.. shallow as a comment, but outside of a couple of like 3 of the men♀️: who ISN'T underperforming exactly? Last I thought we knew everyone in the branch except like 3 people are almost worse than random indies. This is why I just assumed they'll fold it into one overall global "branch" at some point. Most the newbies are eating shit, the old guard/ogs are slinking away, and everyone is basically just waiting for anyone still likeable to peace out. So yeah I dunno.
Hard to say because most of them dont even stream and locked their stream behind membership
But nah they should still have better ccv than random indies or most of phase. Except for finana.
/Vt/ started using finana as an unit. 1 finana = 300 ccv
 

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/Vt/ started using finana as an unit. 1 finana = 300 ccv
Oof. Niji might be the second-biggest corpo in the sphere, but for the EN sphere, that's like tied for fourth with Idol Corp.
 

Militante

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You can see a fucking mouse cursor drag Enna down, i thought it was someone shining a laser pointer at the screen but if you look close enough its a fucking cursor, especially when its against the underhem of her dress

Isn’t that a laser light they use for cheap stage shows?
You can see two similar light-points on the left side. I assume it’s a 6 point projector.

Does raise the question of why is it pointed at the display instead of at the ceiling or walls, but makes more sense than a mouse cursor that’s spazzing out of sync with enna’s model movement
 

Superduper Samurai

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Isn’t that a laser light they use for cheap stage shows?
You can see two similar light-points on the left side. I assume it’s a 6 point projector.

Does raise the question of why is it pointed at the display instead of at the ceiling or walls, but makes more sense than a mouse cursor that’s spazzing out of sync with enna’s model movement
Nevermind, i thought it looked like a mouse when it was aimed at the underhem of her dress but the artifacting and movement just made it smudgey and barely triangular to me
i will now take my meds
 

Renmai

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Isn’t that a laser light they use for cheap stage shows?
You can see two similar light-points on the left side. I assume it’s a 6 point projector.

Does raise the question of why is it pointed at the display instead of at the ceiling or walls, but makes more sense than a mouse cursor that’s spazzing out of sync with enna’s model movement
Looks like it. I also thought it was a cursor, to bad it'd be so much funnier.
 

Helmet-kun Backwards

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This might be a bit.. shallow as a comment, but outside of a couple of like 3 of the men♀️: who ISN'T underperforming exactly? Last I thought we knew everyone in the branch except like 3 people are almost worse than random indies. This is why I just assumed they'll fold it into one overall global "branch" at some point. Most the newbies are eating shit, the old guard/ogs are slinking away, and everyone is basically just waiting for anyone still likeable to peace out. So yeah I dunno.
Most of the guys are doing decent financially, which is the big takeaway here. "Underperforming" compared to indies isn't that big of a deal, Niji doesn't care about non-corpo western Vtubers or even their CCV to some extent. They do care about income though, and on that front the girls are much much worse. The guys have been mostly unaffected by the recent drama in terms of income, I actually went into detail about it in a previous longpost about superchat income. Yeah profits are down compared to a year ago but some of the newer guys like Hex and Vantablack have still been successful financially, Ike streamed for valentines a day after the black screen video and had one of his highest grossing streams, etc. Clawmark has made more than Vivi and Kunai put together (granted, he's being propped up by constant clique-ish off-collabs out of nowhere. He also has made more than Wilson so far). The only girl who makes as much as the guys do is Scarle.

TL;DR: The demise of the Male Nijis is much less likely. They make decent money and aren't a complete writeoff just yet, with a couple of notable exceptions. The girls are on the chopping block because they are being outperformed across the board.

EDIT: And apparently they're still second in CCV overall. Corporate deaths are a slow, dragged out affair. Niji is going to take a while to bleed out.
 
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frz

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Oof. Niji might be the second-biggest corpo in the sphere, but for the EN sphere, that's like tied for fourth with Idol Corp.

Ignore the left table, the right table is ccv.
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Tl;dr Nijisanji still firmly hold 2nd en spot despite their heavy hitters, enna, millie, vox, elira, petra wasn't streaming in march. (excluding vshojo)
Only pippa and temma in phase has high ccv, the rest dragged behind
Kaigai wise saw the rise of brazillian/thailand corpos as they over took even niji.
Indies are not that high for youtube numbers (beside doki/mint), there are some good twitch indies though but /vt/ autist refuse to include twitch and im not gonna be bothered either. I'd have tried but I found better things to do now. Subbing polka clips

Actually some guy did this
1. Dokibird (9,620 ccv, month to month NA)
2. Neuro-sama (8,376 ccv, 14% down)
3. Filian (6,386 ccv, no change month to month)
4. Vei (5,780 ccv, down 16%)
5. Shylily (4,440 ccv, down 29%)
6. Shxtou (4,231 cvv, up 15%)
7: Anny (4,028 ccv, up 9%)
8: Numi (3,896 ccv, up 7%)
9: Sinder (3,490 ccv, up 17%)
10: Silvervale (3,158 ccv, up 9%)
11: Nyanners (2,998 ccv, up 7%)
12: Buffpup (2,576 ccv, down 2%)
13: Cottontail (2,297 ccv, down 8%)
14: Saruei (2,179 ccv, up 12%)
15: Bao (2,117 ccv, down 30%)
16: Limes (2,114 ccv, up 6%)
17: Yuzu (2,072 ccv, down 9%)
18: OlivaMonroe (1,943 ccv, up 43%)
19: Vienna (1,884 ccv, up 27%)
20: LucyPyre (1,867 ccv, up 6%)
 
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Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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Ignore the left table, the right table is ccv.
1712327897198184.png

Tl;dr Nijisanji still hold 2nd en spot despite their heavy hitters, enna, millie, vox, elira, petra wasn't streaming in march. (excluding vshojo)
Only pippa and temma has high ccv, the rest dragged behind
Kaigai wise saw the rise of brazillian/thailand corpos as they over took even niji.
Indies are not that high for youtube numbers (beside doki/mint), there are some good twitch indies though but /vt/ autist refuse to include twitch and im not gonna be bothered either. I'm busy subbing polka clips
Phase Connect main beating Dizzy by 30 viewers

:urtearingmeapart:

Idol Nikki beating Hana Macchia though, hm. I didn't realize she was that low
 

Paladin

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Ignore the left table, the right table is ccv.
1712327897198184.png
Tl;dr Nijisanji still firmly hold 2nd en spot despite their heavy hitters, enna, millie, vox, elira, petra wasn't streaming in march. (excluding vshojo)
Only pippa and temma in phase has high ccv, the rest dragged behind
Kaigai wise saw the rise of brazillian/thailand corpos as they over took even niji.
Indies are not that high for youtube numbers (beside doki/mint), there are some good twitch indies though but /vt/ autist refuse to include twitch and im not gonna be bothered either. I'd have tried but I found better things to do now. Subbing polka clips

Actually some guy did this
1. Dokibird (9,620 ccv, month to month NA)
2. Neuro-sama (8,376 ccv, 14% down)
3. Filian (6,386 ccv, no change month to month)
4. Vei (5,780 ccv, down 16%)
5. Shylily (4,440 ccv, down 29%)
6. Shxtou (4,231 cvv, up 15%)
7: Anny (4,028 ccv, up 9%)
8: Numi (3,896 ccv, up 7%)
9: Sinder (3,490 ccv, up 17%)
10: Silvervale (3,158 ccv, up 9%)
11: Nyanners (2,998 ccv, up 7%)
12: Buffpup (2,576 ccv, down 2%)
13: Cottontail (2,297 ccv, down 8%)
14: Saruei (2,179 ccv, up 12%)
15: Bao (2,117 ccv, down 30%)
16: Limes (2,114 ccv, up 6%)
17: Yuzu (2,072 ccv, down 9%)
18: OlivaMonroe (1,943 ccv, up 43%)
19: Vienna (1,884 ccv, up 27%)
20: LucyPyre (1,867 ccv, up 6%)
Dizzy's statistics will never be funny to me. She probably has one of the worst cases of imposter syndrome in phase, which is made infinitely worse by the sheer amount of money that is thrown at her. It truly is the beginning of sad girl summer. It's further off-topic, but what the fuck happened to Nene and project kawaii?
 

SomeRando

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3 view after streaming for almost an hour
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"Tell le retard de Vox Akuma. I want him to know it was me." :dokibirdWhat:

Phase Connect main beating Dizzy by 30 viewers

:urtearingmeapart:

Idol Nikki beating Hana Macchia though, hm. I didn't realize she was that low

I'm not super up to date on all of Niji but isn't Hana Macchia the one that got discovered with an alt-account she was doing vtuber porn on and was using he/him pronouns?
 

Latte'Ninba

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Most of the guys are doing decent financially, which is the big takeaway here. "Underperforming" compared to indies isn't that big of a deal, Niji doesn't care about non-corpo western Vtubers or even their CCV to some extent. They do care about income though, and on that front the girls are much much worse. The guys have been mostly unaffected by the recent drama in terms of income, I actually went into detail about it in a previous longpost about superchat income. Yeah profits are down compared to a year ago but some of the newer guys like Hex and Vantablack have still been successful financially, Ike streamed for valentines a day after the black screen video and had one of his highest grossing streams, etc. Clawmark has made more than Vivi and Kunai put together (granted, he's being propped up by constant clique-ish off-collabs out of nowhere. He also has made more than Wilson so far). The only girl who makes as much as the guys do is Scarle.

TL;DR: The demise of the Male Nijis is much less likely. They make decent money and aren't a complete writeoff just yet, with a couple of notable exceptions. The girls are on the chopping block because they are being outperformed across the board.

EDIT: And apparently they're still second in CCV overall. Corporate deaths are a slow, dragged out affair. Niji is going to take a while to bleed out.
Well I knew it would be a slow bleed but fair enough that most are still holding out. I knew it was pretty much given the women were "negligible" compared to the guys. However that's on me for forgetting basically all the guys are still allowed on the boat so far. For whatever reason I swore a couple were trailing a bit harder. Might be remembering some of the numbers that got thrown around in here wrong and/or relating them to the wrong people.

Edit:
if your main source of information is /vt/ catalogues, they like to screenshot the lowest point of a stream to shit on niji, often at the very beginning of a stream so it can look more deceiving than actual number
Albeit it's just march, gonna need another week for april numbers. I think vox/enna/elira should be topping that chart for nijiEN or at least top 5 due to their 3d/outfit debut
Nah I just hang out here, like I said I probably had a tard moment or something and threw stuff off somewhere. A cheap screenshot can be funny but taking it at face value is typically not a good idea. Twice as true in that's not a good starting point to flaunt while speaking like an authority lol. I clearly remembered something wrong somewhere or crossed info I had seen so I'll take that L for it.
 
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frz

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Well I knew it would be a slow bleed but fair enough that most are still holding out. I knew it was pretty much given the women were "negligible" compared to the guys. However that's on me for forgetting basically all the guys are still allowed on the boat so far. For whatever reason I swore a couple were trailing a bit harder. Might be remembering some of the numbers that got thrown around in here wrong and/or relating them to the wrong people.
if your main source of information is /vt/ catalogues, they like to screenshot the lowest point of a stream to shit on niji, often at the very beginning of a stream so it can look more deceiving than actual number
Albeit it's just march, gonna need another week for april numbers. I think vox/enna/elira should be topping that chart for nijiEN or at least top 5 due to their 3d/outfit debut
 

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Phase Connect main beating Dizzy by 30 viewers

:urtearingmeapart:

Idol Nikki beating Hana Macchia though, hm. I didn't realize she was that low
Dizzy's statistics will never be funny to me. She probably has one of the worst cases of imposter syndrome in phase, which is made infinitely worse by the sheer amount of money that is thrown at her. It truly is the beginning of sad girl summer. It's further off-topic, but what the fuck happened to Nene and project kawaii?
Kurosanji L is so boring and unfunny, people rather discuss fucking phase connect in this Kuro thread.

Can KuroEN sink any lower?

:dokiSmug:
 

Nigel Nigerman

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what the fuck happened to Nene and project kawaii?
It was always that way, she got propped up by shorts so her subcoubt is high but her CCV is always just lower-3view status. She has a lot of paypigs so she's still making bank.


Kurosanji L is so boring and unfunny, people rather discuss fucking phase connect in this Kuro thread.

Can KuroEN sink any lower?

:dokiSmug:
Wait, this isn't the Pippaposting thread?
 

Bronze

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So any numbers or info about Enna's 3D? Its watched 100k times, so I guess its succesful
 

CalciumAnimal

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Kurosanji L is so boring and unfunny, people rather discuss fucking phase connect in this Kuro thread.

Can KuroEN sink any lower?

:dokiSmug:
being upstaged in their own thread would be another L yes?so it's on topic.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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So any numbers or info about Enna's 3D? Its watched 100k times, so I guess its succesful
Millie's 3D VOD has 259k views and Rosemi's 3D VOD has 149k views.

TalentMax CCVAvg CCVSuperchat (JPY/USD)
Rosemi Lovelock14,94812,192¥276,760 / $1,826.62
Millie Parfait14,32812,443¥370,791 / $2,410.14
Enna Alouette17,12214,043¥ / $
Hololyzer hasn't updated properly but playboard is saying her superchat total was $2,399. So, slightly better? Still disappointing.

Still getting mogged by HomoEN.
TalentMax CCVAvg CCVSuperchat (JPY/USD)
Axel Syrios17,26515,446¥593,855 / $3,978.83

Also I looked up the data on that Vox stream. He didn't just dip into 3 view territory, his avg CCV was sub 900 and he dipped below 800 viewers after 4.5 hours.
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