Nijisanji L Collection

[Nigel Nigerman]

So if I am not mistaken, instead of buying fullset of the Kurosanji Birthday Merch set, you need to buy 4 SEPARATE merch to complete it?

If this is true, this gonna makes a lot of Nijisisters angry

Good.

 

[Punished Lurker]

I have a question, a RRAT even...

With all the "Elira is management" RRAT going around, WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T SHE RELEASE A STATEMENT DENYING IT!?!?

A very simple "Just so you know guys, I am not part of management ok. Just making it clear" message, even just a soundbite. That just makes the RRAT fester more. Is she dumb? Is management really that dumb? Is she really management after all? Can Doki confirm this? Will I ever have sex with Mint?

the gurrat where she is management was never too believable and only the fever pitch behind the drama and growing discontent with Nijisister gay ops made it mainstream
people who earnestly believe in the gurrat wouldnt believe her and it would only streisand it even further when its more or less dead and buried

If anything some attempts to "quash" long running rrats or percieved issues were done really poorly, just look at Millie describing a black corpo, or Vox saying there is no favoirtism in Niji
Short of having a very candid exit with a great lawyer or avenue to let a talent fully speak about Niji, i doubt we will get any sort of extensive statement covering what really happens behind the scenes

An example of why just denying the accusations doesn't work is Kotoka, when Mel got terminated a rrat was made that she had told the information to Kotoka, only because she was one of the last Vtubers she collabed with. Either the rrat got too big or Kotoka couldn't ignore it anymore and she posted this tweet.

The result is that as Superduper says it got streisan'd and a baseless rrat ended up earning more attention than it should have. I think we even talked about it here in the forum saying she should have ignored it instead of denying it. Nowadays I don't know if anyone still believes it but I remember it got a lot of attention back when it happened

We don't have conclusive proof that Elira was a choke-point for communication between JP and EN branches, but she was in the first Nijisanji EN wave and did speak Japanese, and Nijisanji is notoriously tight-fisted when paying wages for support staff. It also explains why Elira got the most sponsorships, the most event merch releases, and explains why Selen didn't get her dream collab with Sanrio while Elira did, despite Selen having several hundred thousand more subs than Elira.

We don't have conclusive proof, but it's a pretty well-supported claim, for all its origins as a 4chan rrat.

I think there's an explanation of why Selen didn't get the Sanrio collab, you have to remember that it was a collaboration not only with Elira but with the waves of Lazulight and Luxiem. Sure Selen had more subs than Elira but if you had to compare the popularity of the waves Lazulight would pull ahead of Obsydia, remember that at that point in time Elira was popular and Pomu was still in the company.

 

[Horo7618]

I think there's an explanation of why Selen didn't get the Sanrio collab, you have to remember that it was a collaboration not only with Elira but with the waves of Lazulight and Luxiem. Sure Selen had more subs than Elira but if you had to compare the popularity of the waves Lazulight would pull ahead of Obsydia, remember that at that point in time Elira was popular and Pomu was still in the company.

The really suspicious collab was the computer case one - Selen and Hyte pretty clearly both wanted her to be involved and instead they got Elira, Enna and Rosemi, until the plug got pulled anyway. The speed with which they dropped that certainly suggests Hyte thought someone at Niji had fucked around with them....

 

[MerryKusa]

Didnt Kiara blab out alot that Pomu collabs were never in Holo's hands?

I thought it was always unknown which side was stopping it. @TinyKusa may know better.

pretty much this
Kiara was always careful to not take any sides as to why the collabs didn't happen
I assume to not direct any hate towards Niji which could make
I do not remember Kiara being all that direct, probably to prevent hate of going to one company and making the situation even more difficult
But maybe she said something to that effect later on, during a collab with Pomu

But I went looking for a clip from back then anyways and


wow the comment section is such an interesting look into the past

 

[El Rrata]

pretty much this
Kiara was always careful to not take any sides as to why the collabs didn't happen
I assume to not direct any hate towards Niji which could make
I do not remember Kiara being all that direct, probably to prevent hate of going to one company and making the situation even more difficult
But maybe she said something to that effect later on, during a collab with Pomu

But I went looking for a clip from back then anyways and


wow the comment section is such an interesting look into the past

Yeah, I remember her more or less shitting on Nijisanji in the collab where they explain that Pomu's 3D wasn't fixed in time for Kiara's birthday, but never any specifics about why collabs were blocked.

Those comments are downright hilarious. How the tables have turned.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Vox's birthday stream is in 15 hours


Fun fact! this is approximately 5pm in China time and 10am Britbong time
I could not find an average for when the workday starts in China but apparently its law to have a maximum of 8 hours per day.
So someone clocking in at 8-9am can very comfortably catch the stream!

 

[Bug Eater]

The really suspicious collab was the computer case one - Selen and Hyte pretty clearly both wanted her to be involved and instead they got Elira, Enna and Rosemi, until the plug got pulled anyway. The speed with which they dropped that certainly suggests Hyte thought someone at Niji had fucked around with them....

There was also the Razer sponsored stream which was handed to Fulgur and Maria for some reason. (tweet unrelated)

 

[Superduper Samurai]

There was also the Razer sponsored stream which was handed to Fulgur and Maria for some reason. (tweet unrelated)

What sponsorships DID Selen get at this point?

 

[El Rrata]

What sponsorships DID Selen get at this point?

Raid: Shadow Legends

 

[Latte'Ninba]

Raid: Shadow Legends

I was gonna say "Well at least people say they actually pay out BANK for their sponsor shit" until I remembered this was the Niji thread. And we're specifically talking about someone who got royally fucked every time she tried to do anything. Woman probably got a cold happy meal that someone ate half the fries of and a "Thanks >Insert livers name here< for your contribution to our glorious company."
I imagine that they also just left the name part there, as opposed to being competent enough to actually swap the text.

 

[returntomonke]

pretty much this
Kiara was always careful to not take any sides as to why the collabs didn't happen
I assume to not direct any hate towards Niji which could make
I do not remember Kiara being all that direct, probably to prevent hate of going to one company and making the situation even more difficult
But maybe she said something to that effect later on, during a collab with Pomu

But I went looking for a clip from back then anyways and


wow the comment section is such an interesting look into the past

"I only see them absolutely oblitarating the market in the future"-

Oh so right yet so wrong.

They did obliterate the market, their own.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

"I only see them absolutely oblitarating the market in the future"-

Oh so right yet so wrong.

They did obliterate the market, their own.

"Holo tech in shambles"
"Thank you Shuu"


*insert Mysta menhera moment here*

*insert Raziel typing POG in Luca's stead*

 

[niggaphil]

Saw this, and I am sure that this belong to Kurosanji L collection. Riku is not great amymore

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Vox's birthday stream is in 15 hours


Fun fact! this is approximately 5pm in China time and 10am Britbong time
I could not find an average for when the workday starts in China but apparently its law to have a maximum of 8 hours per day.
So someone clocking in at 8-9am can very comfortably catch the stream!

i think im braindamaged but i swear the time changed, its now tomorrow at what would be 11pm Chink time, when i swore it was 5pm chink time and thats why i made the joke

 

[NeneHATE]

Saw this, and I am sure that this belong to Kurosanji L collection. Riku is not great amymore

Poker night at Offkai.

 

[Sankisei]

pretty much this
Kiara was always careful to not take any sides as to why the collabs didn't happen
I assume to not direct any hate towards Niji which could make
I do not remember Kiara being all that direct, probably to prevent hate of going to one company and making the situation even more difficult
But maybe she said something to that effect later on, during a collab with Pomu

But I went looking for a clip from back then anyways and


wow the comment section is such an interesting look into the past

I like how they have to Highlight Nazuna/Kson joining Vshojo remember all the hype around them?
Thank you for BTFOing these fagggots my queen
They should always doubt you

 

[God's Weakest Tard]

Almost missed this tweet

Archives

https://archive.ph/1ae5l

the "film" was released only almost two months before the Selen thing, on Nov 4th, so those "horrible things" are almost certainty 100% related to that
what a smug tard

You know, before February happened, a part of me felt a bit bad for Vox.

It's difficult for male streamers on any platform (let alone V-Tubers) to actually make it big and you tend to have to either be A) an unwashed sperg with turbo autism (Asmongold) or an unlikable asshole that barely speaks English properly and gambles thousands of dollars over the course of a stream (XQC). Not hard or fast rules, but outrage and autism do draw in views. But Vox was different. He had charm, charisma, and was (generally speaking) someone who seemed like he could collab with just about anyone. The appeal/pandering to fujo's was (to me at least) a sacrifice that had to be made in order to stand out from the crowd and mark his own niche in the industry. A necessary sacrifice to maintain his popularity and remain relevant.

It has now been two months since Selen Gate and my pity has turned to angry...and has recently turned to amusement. This man (and I use that word loosely) has managed to stain his entire career in the West because he simply can't face the allegations that are being directly or indirectly thrown at him. Instead of trying to address them, he gives them cutesy nicknames that may or may not allude to them ('Horrible Things'), just dips out and streams on Bilibili, or releases an ugly fanservice model to draw in more brain-dead femoid fans. And he is still making a fairly decent amount of money; more than most streamers will ever make, in fact.

And that's probably all he's ever going to be known for now. Sure, he may get some collabs with Indies that are as morally bankrupt as he is, and he will get the occasional collab with other corpos. But in the end, the main source of income and notoriety is going to come from the unmarried, mentally ill women of China. The group that has caused him the most 'mental distress' he has experienced (even though he had no problem taking their money) is now going to be his main source of income as a streamer and he will be forced to dance to their will.

I can't tell if this is a comedy or a tragedy at this point. But hey, why not both.

 

[x Hades Stamps]

You severely underestimate them. Separate phones, on separate sim-card, on separate wifi network. They even have guides for each other to make sure it counts as a real different person and not as botting

Oh, wow. That’s some dedication. Can get expensive, too.

Isn't that cultural appropriation?
Why is a brit wearing ethnic armor and has slanted eyes?

Maybe because he’s so incredibly hideous, but that’s all I can say there. No idea how he acts.

Holy fuck that model is hideous, he looks like he drew that facial hair on with a sharpie.

He does, NGL

Nothing says confidence like fleeing to another countries streaming platform, where the general audience doesn't speak your primary language. This is like a "in case of emergency stream in China" button behind some glass.

“In case of demolition (especially by implosion), break glass and pull to stream in China.”

Meanwhile another play button failing to decorate a yacht....

Congrats to her!

Well there's the problem, the only discord I'm in is the Phase Discord for clipping purposes. I've also not been able to watch too many streams since like early March to mid April because of work (hence there only being like 5 or 6 clips on my channel in that time period).

I envy you. I have managed to fill two accounts with Discord servers (non-Nitro, one server shared between the two)

I kind of recall that Billibilli comment during her reincarnation but it was likely forgotten because everyone focused on "oh wow, an ex-niji that's not going to Twitch, hurray!". I knew about those collabs but I never got to watch most of them as the last Doki stream I watched in full was the Supermarket Simulator stream as it was early March. The whole clipping thing kinda prevents me from watching non-Phase streams altogether whenever I'm busy.

That part, however, I don’t envy

If we are real fan, we probably stay in groomcord to do gayops against Dokibird, or start bitching in nyfco instead of staying in the forum owned by Temu-quality vox akuma femboy The Proctor.

A real fan of whom?

Vox's new model apparently have option without the facial hair too and it looks much better so I wonder why even include those as an option

Granted, that’s face only versus full-body, but that’s already a night and day difference.

And even funnier: that femboy of Shxtou also collabing with a Niji despite everything he screamed abou "CORPO BAD"

I’m quite anti-corporate myself (shocker, I know /s), but not to the point that it’s a dealbreaker for me. That being said, I don’t really pay attention to Shxtou, so I don’t know the full story, there.

He looks like Proctor

Dollar store Proctor, at any rate

Unless you think "HoloEN" includes StarsEN (it doesn't).

Explain?

not to mention some of the early male on stream tism

I’ve always said that’s one of the most stup things about this, and generally harmful, too.

About time this was done, though I am sure big corpos will try and sue to stop it.

But will they be successful? That is the question.

Im not in law, so forgive me if this comes off as ignorant, but as a replacement, would companies start asking for monetary repayment for provided training? I can imagine Vtuber Corps changing their contract so they can recoup the modal or training costs. Whether that's actually feasible or not is one thing, but I imagine they will try if it's legal.

Well, early termination fees are a thing.

Short-term, reasonable non-competes are a necessary evil since the last thing a corpo wants is to invest a bunch of resources into promoting a talent for them to bounce after a few months taking their newfound training and audience with them, since that prevents the corpo from getting a return on their investment. It's not a perfect system by any means - I don't like that a potentially crooked corpo has the means to control a talent's career post-graduation, and I think relieving them of the non-compete clause would be a show of good faith - but the arrangement exists for a reason.

If they’re reputable, people are far, far more likely to stay.

It's very easy to empathise solely with the talents in these arrangements since we've seen so many being mistreated by corrupt corpos recently, but at the same time I feel honest, reputable corpos should have the means to protect their rights too.

You’re making it sound like corporations are people (they’re not)

I have questions though. Why the random capitalization on Horrible Things?

I have a completely baseless rrat that it’s a title of something.

Because in their minds they are and this is all a hate campaign led by Doki. But don't worry, 5 months after this minor inconvenience he has healed and ready to hold his after party.

And that is one reason why Niji would never let me join–I am very hard to gaslight.

is this nigga on the road?

Maybe. Not unheard of to do that. Couldn’t imagine trying to VTube with a rigged model away from home (would probably be better to go PNG or even no cam)

something kinda sad
This stream earned this in supas ($1’539)
Only a 45k yen difference, still almost 300 dollars, but a full 3d debut earned Rosemi 1.8k USD ($1,829.49) while a scuffed as fuck chatting stream that only lasted 2:20 hours earned almost as much. around 1.5k
Luxiemsanji is their only avenue of growth
Edit: as noticed on the groomcord, his outfit reveal stream earned this amount, around 4.5k USD (4,488.48)

Oh, wow.

Didn't he already run away to some lakes in the wilderness once when his fujo fangirl stalked him and found where he lives? Might be happening again

Rented an AirBNB in a mobile home, out in the middle of nowhere, relying on barely existent cell service because they have no internet

Noncompetes have a place in capitalism to prevent people being given inside information and then jumping ship to essentially sell that information. The problem is noncompetes have become far too all encompassing and rigid, while being somewhat useless if a company cares enough to circumvent them.

That’s actually what NDA’s, as well as trade secrets, a form of intellectual property, are for.

The day we end copyright laws as they are is the day people will have power again, because that's not happening with Disney empire bending the laws. My sadness is that you gotta pay for every sample you make today, and hiphop lost so much from that, you can only get a small glimpse at that from meme mashups, which would be disastrous if it wasn't funny.

Copyrights are essential for artists’ livelihoods (any form of art, including music, movies and TV, literature, etc., not just drawings and sculptures), and for promoting original works. However, with the terms this long, it does more harm than good to us small guys. Although the earliest incarnation of Mickey Mouse has entered the Public Domain (in the US), which is a very tiny victory for the small artists, they’re definitely not going to let the term length get rolled back.

No, they did the same thing last time they adjusted the format. They are at least consistent with it. And it's probably because of some rights autism. Others don't have to deal with this because they don't do generalized cookie cutter merch

Huh. That is indeed a thing.

The result is that as Superduper says it got streisan'd and a baseless rrat ended up earning more attention than it should have. I think we even talked about it here in the forum saying she should have ignored it instead of denying it. Nowadays I don't know if anyone still believes it but I remember it got a lot of attention back when it happened

Yeah. I’ve never thought she was a terrible person, just a massive idiot.

The really suspicious collab was the computer case one - Selen and Hyte pretty clearly both wanted her to be involved and instead they got Elira, Enna and Rosemi, until the plug got pulled anyway. The speed with which they dropped that certainly suggests Hyte thought someone at Niji had fucked around with them....

Yeah. Maybe this all was involved in the Sanrio collab, but evidence towards that is nowhere near as conclusive as with this one (especially since Sanrio was in gens, and Hyte obviously wasn’t).

Kiara was always careful to not take any sides as to why the collabs didn't happen
I do not remember Kiara being all that direct, probably to prevent hate of going to one company and making the situation even more difficult
But I went looking for a clip from back then anyways and

And IIRC, it wasn’t long at all before the two did collab

Those comments are downright hilarious. How the tables have turned.

How the turntables!!

Raid: Shadow Legends

You know she’s desperate when out of all the opportunities you’d expect her to get, that is the one that actually manifests.

i think im braindamaged but i swear the time changed, its now tomorrow at what would be 11pm Chink time, when i swore it was 5pm chink time and thats why i made the joke

Odd. It’s showing 4 AM CDT, which is 10 AM BST and 5 PM China time

It's difficult for male streamers on any platform to actually make it big

You say that, but a good majority of the top facecam and no cam streamers are male. It’s definitely hard, but it’s hard for anyone, really. Except maybe the Twitch thots (but I don’t like to give them any attention)
Sorry for the huge message, but I’m currently ill and not very active online or IRL

 

[El Rrata]

Both Vox's latest stream and his outfit reveal have a 1:1 likes to dislikes ratio on YT. You love to see it.

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

Oh, wow. That’s some dedication. Can get expensive, too.

Maybe because he’s so incredibly hideous, but that’s all I can say there. No idea how he acts.

He does, NGL

“In case of demolition (especially by implosion), break glass and pull to stream in China.”

Congrats to her!

I envy you. I have managed to fill two accounts with Discord servers (non-Nitro, one server shared between the two)

That part, however, I don’t envy

A real fan of whom?

Granted, that’s face only versus full-body, but that’s already a night and day difference.

I’m quite anti-corporate myself (shocker, I know /s), but not to the point that it’s a dealbreaker for me. That being said, I don’t really pay attention to Shxtou, so I don’t know the full story, there.

Dollar store Proctor, at any rate

Explain?

I’ve always said that’s one of the most stup things about this, and generally harmful, too.

But will they be successful? That is the question.

Well, early termination fees are a thing.



If they’re reputable, people are far, far more likely to stay.

You’re making it sound like corporations are people (they’re not)

I have a completely baseless rrat that it’s a title of something.

And that is one reason why Niji would never let me join–I am very hard to gaslight.

Maybe. Not unheard of to do that. Couldn’t imagine trying to VTube with a rigged model away from home (would probably be better to go PNG or even no cam)

Oh, wow.

Rented an AirBNB in a mobile home, out in the middle of nowhere, relying on barely existent cell service because they have no internet

That’s actually what NDA’s, as well as trade secrets, a form of intellectual property, are for.

Copyrights are essential for artists’ livelihoods (any form of art, including music, movies and TV, literature, etc., not just drawings and sculptures), and for promoting original works. However, with the terms this long, it does more harm than good to us small guys. Although the earliest incarnation of Mickey Mouse has entered the Public Domain (in the US), which is a very tiny victory for the small artists, they’re definitely not going to let the term length get rolled back.

Huh. That is indeed a thing.

Yeah. I’ve never thought she was a terrible person, just a massive idiot.

Yeah. Maybe this all was involved in the Sanrio collab, but evidence towards that is nowhere near as conclusive as with this one (especially since Sanrio was in gens, and Hyte obviously wasn’t).

And IIRC, it wasn’t long at all before the two did collab

How the turntables!!

You know she’s desperate when out of all the opportunities you’d expect her to get, that is the one that actually manifests.

Odd. It’s showing 4 AM CDT, which is 10 AM BST and 5 PM China time

You say that, but a good majority of the top facecam and no cam streamers are male. It’s definitely hard, but it’s hard for anyone, really. Except maybe the Twitch thots (but I don’t like to give them any attention)
Sorry for the huge message, but I’m currently ill and not very active online or IRL