General Thread v4mirai: Brought to you by Brave

[Sky Shouter]

If you were having too happy of a night and would like to instantly ruin it, come read Shondo's account of her mother's funeral

it was very very hard at first, i was shaking so bad
she looked beautiful though, at peace, they did such a lovely job. she looked like she was sleeping. the coffin is white and very pretty.
i cant tell you how tiny she looked laying there though. she looked like a child.
i expected her to be cold but it was more than i thought.
i still dont think its really sank in at all.
thank you everyone for all of the love though, we’re gonna go sit with her again on her birthday on monday. i am glad that i went today, even if it was really hard.

i do think now that saying goodbye to her for the last visit migjt be harder than the funeral
i’m dreading that the most now, i think

one day at a time

it sounds silly, but i keep telling myself that if i can make it through this, then anyone can. aside from sticking with my family and taking care of them, i am thinking so much that i have to do it so that i can prove to you guys no matter what happens, no matter how bad it gets, it must, it has to get better
i believe in the you that believes in me that believes in you or something
yeah

 

[The Proctor]

I don't normally do this, but in this case the individual in question is such a horrible person I'm happy to make an exception in order to ensure they get public coverage.

Kuri Rinji is streaming on Twitch about 'Kitty Lady Clarice', a delightful sweetheart who has done charming things such as glory in the violent deaths of other vtubers and wish for her enemies to get raped. He asked me to signal boost this, which I think is more than acceptable.

Spoiler: Just a tiny snippet of her insanity.

 

[The Proctor]

CeciHime is doing a partner anniversary stream. It's been going a while, but right now she is playing Conker's Bad Fur Day.

 

[Lazybug]

Proctor Edit: See this post for the article author's KF thread.

I don't think this got posted here but i was in the discord
https://www.vice.com/en/article/these-vtubers-want-you-in-their-lewd-game-you-might-want-to-pass/
some troon with a chip on their shoulder and KF thread wrote and got published an article that's basically just them seething that they didn't get into Vallure and has made a hit peice against Stronny basically lol how insane


This isn't an April fools bit this is a real vice article lmfao

 

[NotDecatto]

You watch Rima a lot, did the journalist actually try to derail Rima's stream to watch them fumble their backpedaling?
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https://nitter.poast.org/RimaEvenstar/status/1907652461331882382

Rima Evenstar (@RimaEvenstar): "The journalist in question stopped by my stream. Ofc I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt so I was willing to listen. However she didn’t clarify anything besides asking me to look at her twitter as proof th

ghostarchive.org

Some screengrabs of Ana being an absolute ass in Rima's Twitch chat. Direct link to the stream VOD on Twitch is here.



Ana trying to coral viewers into her stream attempt #1. Rima seems confused as she doesn't have a Discord room setup for a collab like this. She waits for a few minutes and then moves on to the next stream topic.





Attempt #2



Attempt #3 and Rima's chat rightfully tells Ana to fuck off.

 

[lakyus]

Proctor Edit: She gets demonetized live at 55:32. Credit to @Grandmaster Robin for the timestamp.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Nexas is the g(r)ift that keeps on giving


Apparently Harry claims to still own the Nexas IPs and he only "licensed" them to these people, even though didn't he also sell nexas to some other retards which rebranded it to something else?

 

[Bronze]

Proctor Edit: Link to the crosspost in the Idol thread. All important information and archives should be posted or at least reposted there.

There's a drama regarding Brave US. Lani, a talent manager of Idol corp, claims Brave US higher ups fabricated an NDA breach to fire her.


E:https://ibb.co/DgRgwTfM
E2: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Y1ZB6

 

[Kazuma]

Here is an archive of Gigi's karaoke
【UNARCHIVED】grems we vibe-ITiBgGYrm7w
mega
uploadnow

Trying out a new file hoster.

 

[Banana Hammock]

She is always there earlier, she also stalk her regulars on twitter


>>>>>>>>a confirmed lolicon is near children

Im having the Kiki flashbacks bros

In other news: what happened with Shiina that made a manifesto about cookies leaving

One of her fans schizod out.

 

[Hff201]

One of her fans schizod out.

Fucking ARCHIVE EVERYTHING. (+ embedded tweet archive)

Holy schizophrenia, goddamn. Our boy took out a $10k loan to buy anime girl fanart

 

[NotDecatto]

Liliana formerly of MyHoloTV dips into the MV conversation and reveals that the costs of fully/partially footing the bill is one of the reasons why MyHoloTV went bankrupt.

Archive

 

[Hff201]

Drama. KiiroKuma (previously known as ReNPC Art) has had a post made about him by the indie vtuber Neppie.


Archive

Spoiler: Statement

He has responded.


Archive

Spoiler: Statement

This feels like a needless callout since as far as I can tell the issue is resolved and the chick is trying to downplay it herself in her own statement.

Other Kiiro comments from his Marshmallow:

Spoiler

Before the statement:


Archive


Archive

After the statement:


Archive

(These archives might not be working so the screencaps will have to suffice)

 

[Dawifet]

Welp, its over

 

[NeneLOVE]

I will go in a crusade to repent about this sin but i agree with Goblin lord, they cant keep running this shit like a average idol company, everyone know the boatload of issues that industry has and is just not translate completely to streaming

What does Holo have in common with "the average idol company"?
Do they hire minors? (recently)
Do they prohibit their members from having relationships?
Do they prohibit their members from talking about their real lives instead of some made up fantasy?
Do they kick out their members for getting too old/ugly?

Please do enlighten us as to what the similarities are beyond "doing concerts" and "having kayfabe" which almost all other vtuber corps do. "Issues with management" is not an "IDOL INDUSTRY" problem, they are something that happens in every profession which involves more than 10 employees ever created. People have issues with their working environment, pay, contract conditions, work hours and expected output every hour of every day, and people quit their jobs for these reasons constantly, how are these girls any different?

To me Holo has a lot more in common with shit like YT MCNs but more involved, this Idol company shit has always been a marketing ploy but retards still take it to mean that Holo runs exactly like an idol agency or that much of vtubing is like idol agencies.

Do we judge VSPO the same as eSports teams because they focus on eSports? Do we assume they work the same? Or do we just say "they're a vtuber agency that does eSports"? To me Holo has always been a Vtuber Agency that does Idol activities like concerts and has that as their main appeal, not "they are an idol agency doing vtubers".

 

[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

I'm still awake at nearly 3:40am to update you all!

Scarle found "it."
Honestly this deserves to be featured right under Gura's graduation.

 

[frz]

So a summary of the talks from Calli/Ina/Kiara

Spoiler: The clips

- Calli & Kiara alludes that there won't be anymore graduation, at least for this year. ((I'm surprised Ayame isn't leaving))
- Kiara confirms that she came to know of shion/gura/fauna/mumei graduations at the same time
- The "graduation queue" does exist, but not because le evil hololive wants to keep their good image by delaying graduation, but because of all the negotiations that comes with leaving. ((People have things like merch and sponsorship, events booked up years in advance. projects that will need to be scrapped, or pushed forward to make it in time for graduation, some people has graduation 3D live, etc. It's not as easy as "okay you will be graduating in at this date".))
- Ina hates gura so she's having a great timeShe overloaded with thoughts right now and decided not to think anymore and is doing fine.
- Ina got rumoured to be leaving next by twitter and a certain vtweeter named Azehara as Kiara/Calli are hard target since they have their idol career. Kiara and Ina said Ina will stay for a long time
- "Myth will always be 5, even if the next anniversary stream there's only 3 of us" - Calli
- Kiara is extremely against adding people to Myth, a ProMyth merge is very unlikely
- Disagreement with management is a catch all term. It's impossible to not have disagreement, there are things Cover chose to do that a holomem are unhappy with but other actually likes. Everyone have their own individual circumstances and choices.
- Calli wanted to quit during the first 2 years a.k.a wiggers era, alot of brainworms during that time.
- Calli thinks she wil stay as a Cover staff/producer if she ever graduate. (I suspect it will be different when it actually happens, but it's just to show that she doesn't think of going anywhere else right now)
- Biboo said her experience with hololive has been overwhelmingly positive, there are of course hardships, but noone goes through life without hardship. Also noone in management told her to come to Japan, she moved because she wanted to. + the boiler plate "I'm happy but that doesn't mean everyone is" that everyone else spams

Edit: added moona pov, she thinks it's normal for people to leave (and even rejoin), comparing it to "J-pop" and not her old idol career.

 

[Phantasm]

Since I've already did it with Azhera's post I've decide to have chatgpt summarize this doc for us as well so here you go

The PDF titled "elfin-doco" is a lengthy, personal exposé authored by someone using the alias AvgBirdEnjoyer. It details their experiences with a streamer named Elfinpsyop, documenting what the author alleges to be manipulative and inappropriate behavior over the course of a year-long personal and online relationship.

Core Summary​

• Purpose of the Document: Initially intended as a private warning, the document was made public after a statement by Elfinpsyop that the author perceived as slanderous. The document aims to clear the author's name, warn others, and document Elfinpsyop's alleged misconduct.
• Main Allegation: The author accuses Elfinpsyop of engaging in flirtatious and sexual interactions with multiple members of her fanbase, then turning on them by making accusations (e.g., grooming, manipulation) once the relationships soured — allegedly to preserve her public image and career.
• Named Individuals: Six individuals (including the author) are identified as having been involved in intimate or sexual exchanges with Elfinpsyop: AvgBirdEnjoyer, Merrick, Shovelbreath, Lauchlan, Captcha, and Sako.

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Timeline & Key Events​

March–June 2024​

• The author meets Elfin through her Discord server and streams.
• Their relationship escalates from casual conversation to flirtation and sexual interactions (explicit messages, calls, and images), mostly initiated by Elfin while intoxicated.
• The author tries to maintain emotional distance but admits engaging in flirtatious behavior.
• He learns of similar interactions between Elfin and Merrick, leading to tension.

July–September 2024​

• The Merrick incident and its fallout cause a rift.
• The author expresses concern over Elfin's involvement with another viewer (Shovelbreath), which Elfin downplays.
• Elfin and the author plan to meet in person, and she resumes flirtatious behavior.
• Similar concerns arise around another fan, Captcha.

October–December 2024​

• More viewers are banned or distanced, and the author suspects Elfin is lying to multiple people about the nature of their relationships.
• The author and Elfin finally meet in person during his second UK trip. She gives a clear rejection during that visit — her only one, he claims.

January–March 2025​

• The author and another person (Sako) confirm through discussion that they had similar experiences with Elfin.
• Information is shared with a mutual contact (Bean), who uncovers further discrepancies and manipulations.
• The document is compiled after Elfin begins contacting others to control the narrative once she finds out about the exposé.

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Recurring Themes & Evidence​

• Pattern of Behavior: Elfin allegedly initiates sexual relationships with fans, maintains emotional ambiguity, and then vilifies them after ending the interaction.
• Manipulation: According to the author, Elfin uses her position as a streamer to build intimacy, then lies to cover up overlapping relationships.
• Gaslighting & Victimization: The author presents messages where Elfin appears to deflect blame and claim victimhood, even when confronted with evidence.
• Double Standards: She allegedly rejects responsibility by citing intoxication and powerlessness, while simultaneously continuing similar behavior with others.

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Conclusion​

The author asserts that while Elfin is free to live her life, her position of influence as a streamer comes with responsibilities, especially when it comes to interacting with fans. He claims this exposé is necessary because private interventions failed and she continues to engage in risky and harmful behavior.


He emphasizes that he is not seeking to ruin her career, but to provide transparency for the community so individuals can make informed decisions about supporting or interacting with her.

TLDR: The document is a personal exposé written by a former moderator and close associate of the streamer Elfinpsyop, accusing her of engaging in manipulative, sexualized relationships with multiple fans while maintaining a facade of exclusivity and later discrediting them with false accusations. The author details his own year-long experience with her, including emotional manipulation, sharing of explicit content, and a pattern of behavior where Elfin allegedly gaslit, vilified, or discarded those she became intimate with. He claims the document is meant to protect others in her community by revealing her actions, asserting it’s not an attack but a necessary act of transparency.