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RestlessRain

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We he does have the same medical constitution as some of these chronically ill women.
Metokur:
- Screens behind a faceless cartoon avatar or the wobbling jelly, rarely shows his face and tries to keep opsec about his location
- Only streams "when he can" due to a debilitating physical disability
- Has a huge anime and manga collection, loves isekai slop
- Yellow fever
- Does react streams and zatsudans
- Regularly talks about his oshi, Pipkin Pippa.

Yeah, seems like a proper vtuber to me.
 

dragoonkain3

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"The Ocean is big, I'm sure we'll cross currents again"

Please tell me Gura will stream regularly again as an indie and this isn't copium T_T
 

Horo7618

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"The Ocean is big, I'm sure we'll cross currents again"

Please tell me Gura will stream regularly again as an indie and this isn't copium T_T
Uh, well, from what we've seen so far, regular streamers mostly keep streaming regularly post corpo. Irregular streamers, not so much....
 

I Wanna Die

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Loki, incidentally, is perhaps the closest among Phase girls to that elusive definition of "girlsuccess". She appears to be in a solid mental and physical state and seemingly doesn't have any issues with self-image/confidence.
Her pestering Sakana to allow de-facto flesh-streaming is essentially just her continuing on from experience at her previous employment(muscle-girl bar, for people unaware).
Nice cope bro, she's still a whore.
 

Negronald Trump

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To me it's so weird people accepted this as normal so easily, Phase giving her the green light to basically whore herself out for members and no one finds this off-putting??
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My rationale in this matter is basically one of semantics:
To me "Vtubing" consists of two concepts, which are similar but not synonymous and often overlap.

On one side you have the "mechanical" aspect of Vtubing, which is to say, the model. This is what most people use as the definition "A Vtuber is a content creator that uses a virtual avatar" but I'd argue this definition only refers to the MEDIUM of vtubing, trying to lump anyone who uses an avatar together under "Vtubing" is like lumping all of animation together because it's "animation". It's just a shared content creation medium.

On the other side I'd argue there's a much more important "Cultural" aspect to Vtubing, which is to say, the customs, unspoken rules, industry standards, language, visuals, attitudes and beliefs held by the majority (but not all) of content creators which call themselves vtubers. I'd argue that being a vtuber is more than just the model, there's a sub-culture involved and people in this industry, even if subconsciously or through trends, do indeed follow it. It's the reason why people often measure a person's involvement with Vtubing on their knowledge of our unique culture, do they know famous agencies or vtubers? Do they know what live2D is and its differences to 3D? Do they understand the concepts of graduations, debuts, generations and other slang?

In my opinion a true vtuber needs both of these, if you're just using the model as a gimmick or are totally unrelated to the medium and just get shoehorned in because you "technically" count then what's even the point? That's why imo vtubing began with kizuna, because she, along with others of that time, are the root source of what makes vtubing what it is. There is a very clear before, when random guys on youtube played with facerig and pretended to be a talking burger and after, when it was clearly a japanese niche sub-culture combining anime with idols and later streaming.

While I do think the first definition is correct, it is hardly satisfactory and often imo plays into why outsiders are so incapable of wrapping their heads around what vtubing is and why people like it.
Let me just say, why does a Third world LatinX lawyer whose main language is taco makes much more sense in english than a British femboy pootato farmer? And don't tell me one is more retarded than the other as this forum has proven that they are equally retarded, I mean his oshi is a literal retard IRL (almost OD'd on fucking melatonin gummies).
 

Poyoyo & Jill

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"The Ocean is big, I'm sure we'll cross currents again"

Please tell me Gura will stream regularly again as an indie and this isn't copium T_T
She got verified on her PL these days so you will at least see her on Twitter
 

Hff201

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Kalion

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"The Ocean is big, I'm sure we'll cross currents again"

Please tell me Gura will stream regularly again as an indie and this isn't copium T_T
She's going to debut a new Senzawa model, rake in a fuckload of "I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK" donations, and then won't be seen again for six months.
 

Phantasm

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She's going to debut a new Senzawa model, rake in a fuckload of "I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK" donations, and then won't be seen again for six months.
No but bro you don't understand bro okay she might've had the same schedule with Gura as she did with Senzawa but this will be different okay it's just Le Ebil Hololive okay when she graduates everything will be better

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Cubanodun

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45 minutes of just rushing the announcement of the new song, now i get why she took 2 weeks instead of the month
 

NeneLOVE

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Let me just say, why does a Third world LatinX lawyer whose main language is taco makes much more sense in english than a British femboy pootato farmer? And don't tell me one is more retarded than the other as this forum has proven that they are equally retarded, I mean his oshi is a literal retard IRL (almost OD'd on fucking melatonin gummies).
I am equally as flawed and autistic as the britbong, the main differences lie in the sizes of our egos and my ability to make concise points. That whole writeup I did has also been sitting in my "philosophy and casual musings about vtubing" google doc for like 2 years after I in all my incredible autism decided to put down my own explanation for what vtubing actually even was and how it could be defined. Yes, I actually write down my own dissertations on shit that doesn't even matter, wonder at my abundance of extra chromosomes plebs!
 

thirteenorphans

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Do y'all just have pre-written vtuber autism rants and musings ready to go in a Google doc?
 

RestlessRain

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Do y'all just have pre-written vtuber autism rants and musings ready to go in a Google doc?
No, I write my autistic rants bespoke for three likes, two agreeds and a Migo from God's Strongest Dragoon
 

Phantasm

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NeneLOVE

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No, I write my autistic rants bespoke for three likes, two agreeds and a Migo from God's Strongest Dragoon
Bro knows how to farm karma, probably the reason he's at the top of the internet point leaderboard.
 

Superduper Samurai

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Do y'all just have pre-written vtuber autism rants and musings ready to go in a Google doc?
Half tism and half Vtubing being an actually fascinating industry thats still more or less in its infancy
 

RestlessRain

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Bro knows how to farm karma, probably the reason he's at the top of the internet point leaderboard.
I get my karma from shitposts, memes and racism. My effortposts take ten times as long and get like five reacts. I'll still do the occasional autistic effortpost anyway because fuck you all.
 

ChilChakSack

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Probably the most relevant commentary on recent events in the industry.


Kara was monetized and finally has a fan mascot design.


After much delay Armcha1r is weighing in on the small corpo meltdowns of 2024.
 

NeneLOVE

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Probably the most relevant commentary on recent events in the industry.

Not watching that, what did he say and how uninformed was his take?

After much delay Armcha1r is weighing in on the small corpo meltdowns of 2024.

Delay? This guy has done streams on every single one of the meltdowns lol.

Edit: Lol even the chairkek agrees with me that the statement every holo makes is just a PR copypaste non-statement.
 
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Tubedude

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Not watching that, what did he say and how uninformed was his take?
His take was "You asked me to talk about this..... I have no idea what the fuck is going on." *Plays video with guy that says "Gonna miss ya buddy"* end.
 

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