General Thread v4mirai: Brought to you by Brave

[wew]

Wait. What do you mean again? I know I haven't been as active as I used to be, but I never heard of her previous suicide attempt. Given this woman shit luck im not surprised but damn.

I remember a stream from a year or so ago about her crying that she almost did something really stupid and permanent clearly hinting at the fact she tried to off her self because of real life stuff like her shitty friends and family and im sure a mix of online things on top of it

 

[JusticeDog]

The vtuber continues her mission to grow her audience

 

[Sankisei]

Has Ame ever interacted with Pikamee/Henya before today? This is one of the collabs I wanted to see most way back in 2020.

You missed out a lot of collabs they did before this one
Also

IDK Why Dooby CCV plummeted so hard

 

[dumdum did nothing wrong]

The vtuber continues her mission to grow her audience

oh did the muu find my boy kent rollins?

 

[httn]

Which is completely unlawful requirement pretty much everywhere in the world unless they are full employees.

One of the key things to be classed as a self-employed contractor in bongland is the freedom to take on other work for other clients, that would include working for herself under her PL. If that clause is on her contract and gets read in front of a judge it will be a slam dunk for her, UK law would see her and the rest of Globie talents as employees. Then the question of Globie not meeting employee rights (minum wage for hours worked and tax and state health insurance payments being the employers responsibility are a few that things that apply from day 1 currently) will come back to bite them hard.

I wonder what SnailBarbie options are, britain is all kinds of fucked and cucked so i honestly can't even guess how well labor legal stuff works there at a moment.
(She said she generally want to pursue globie/brave legally and will look into it just now)

A lawsuit is not really worth it for her imo. Both sides pay their own lawyers fee's in the UK regardless of outcome, so any settlement would have to be large enough to cover those and still be worth pursuing. This also works in her favour because she doesn't have the money for it to be worth Globie pursuing her. If she can somehow get a court to rule her as an employee there is potential for a lolsuit to tank any and all UK based vtubing orgs now and future but i doubt it will ever get to that stage.

Smartest thing she can do is not bring up the live2d model anymore, make a legally distinct sluggirl png or model and just keep streaming.
Smartest thing brave can do is C&D her to stop her using the live2d model anymore and pay anything she was still owed just to get her to fuck off.

Out of interest, because UK company filings are public record here's the listing for Brave group europe Limited which has their accounts for 2023 currently listed. This has them with around £30K left in the bank 1 month before their 1st generation debuted, since then they have debuted 12 talents. Accounts update is due on the 30th of June at the latest so will be an interesting look at how much they have brought in and burned through in a year. Another interesting point is that only one of the business owners appears to actually be in Europe.

Just realised this Globie shit is so retarded i've been forced to agree with merelytourist on anything, brb killing myself.

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Wait. What do you mean again? I know I haven't been as active as I used to be, but I never heard of her previous suicide attempt. Given this woman shit luck im not surprised but damn.

It was back in the end of 2023.

 

[Smelliest007]

Both sets are sponsored, this one even got advertised by the MonHun X:

Oops my bad, I only saw the tweet for the latter team.

 

[Wixoyu]

By the way, if you want a break from the hunting, Mumei roped the bau baus into Overwatch. Theoretically starting on the hour.

 

[Unseiso Dragon]

oh did the muu find my boy kent rollins?

Or BBQ Pit Boys perhaps?

 

[Smelliest007]

IDK Why Dooby CCV plummeted so hard

Not being able to stream consistently due to ISP and the split between YouTube and Twitch streams would be the cause I hazard.

 

[electronic elephant]

 

[Aka Split]

By the way, if you want a break from the hunting, Mumei roped the bau baus into Overwatch. Theoretically starting on the hour.

Mumei with FWMC and then IRyS with Nerissa (in Monster Hunter no less!), today hates me specifically.

 

[Koronesuki]

General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

Wemi is basically a less retarded Nolan Crush with less bitching. Are you sure you want to adopt her? It's cute when women are retarded. More is expected of men.

thevirtualasylum.com

IRyS with Nerissa

 

[Kazuma]

Moom is playing OW 2 with the baubaus in a bit


Doob and Henya continuing their Mine in Abyss adventure

 

[frz]

Indistinguishable AI vtubers by 2029, calling it.

The "purpose" of a tool is irrelevant to how it functions or will be used. AI music has already reached the point where the vast majority can not tell the difference, and will by the end of the year be perfected. For the minority of people who actually do feel an emotional connection with music, this is going to cause of lot of existential crises. AI vtubers will be the same way.



This is based on the understanding of AI at one point in time. AI games are in its infancy - really, more like proof of concept. They are not how they will be in ten years, five years, or one year. For games, I'm thinking every game will be completely AI generated by 2035.

We've seen this with AI music (barely functional in 2020, now better than nearly everything new on the radio and streaming), and are now seeing it with AI video - which was an amusing mess just a couple years ago, with the latest models being near-real. By the end of the year, there will be very few things it can do. By 2027, full-fledged "live-action" movies will be completely AI generated.

The rate AI has progressed in just five years is insane, and is in my eyes going faster than the advancement of computer technology we saw in the decade of the '90s.

Noone will give a shit about AI in 2029 just like Big Data, Crypto Currency, NFTs, .Com bubble. LLMs itself is a scam and OpenAi will crash and burn in the future. There's no way they can recoup the insane money they are spending. I'm calling it.
People keep talking about AI like how Elon talked about his FSD will be coming soon in 5 years. There's nothing that would lead me into believe Tesla can defy physics and develope a functioning FSD, nor that Large Language Models will develope Intelligence or can actually generate revenue.
For vtubing, at best you would make the perfect voice changer. But the person behind it still needs to be entertaining.

Honestly I have seen a lot more degradation over the years when it comes to LLMs. Alot of innovations and creative ideas born in the early days of LLMs has been sapped away to uncreative slops and boring technology and people spamming the exact same thing.
For example some times ago, unlimited streams were super popular with "watchmeforever", a 24/7 sitcom cartoon AI generated shows, they hit a staggering 10k CCV in Feb 2023 and then ... tapered off to 2 views by May. People got tired of it. But at least it's something new and got killed by the industry for slops.

Trump & Biden AI was exciting when it came out. It got turned into boring slops nowadays when every channel is spamming it. Even though noone gives a shit about Biden anymore. Noone even bothered to use literally any person other than those 2, whatabout Chris Brown bantering with Drake over Domestic Violence? Nope. More trump and biden. Or how about Taylor Swift being racist? Nope, more Trump and Biden? How about just original characters? Nope, more trump and Biden. There is literally a "mold" that AI applications can not exit from. People in 2022/2023 were serious about exiting it, but 2025 are people giving up and following the same mold

Also there's a bubbling movement of the code writers who adopted and shilled really hard for Copilot/ChatGPT stopped using them altogether.

Tl;dr you can use Copilot/ChatGPT to write code. But you learn nothing from it and won't develop your skill and develop bad habits instead/lose your writing ability.
Also hallucinations, but only a small factor, the deal breaker is getting worse at your job and face being replaced.
You can (pressing X multiple times) fix hallucinations, but you cant fix human.

I do think AI is the future for things like surgery, expensive technology that exists outside of the "mass consumer products" that LLMs are trying to sell. But I'm not sure if those advancement came from LLMs or do they came from actual Machine Learning companies.

Part of the point here is that it's still better than the norm; better than what the majority will take. What is Good Enough and More Convenient will always win out

You need to have a market to disrupt a market. Vtubers in kaigai world is too niche for it. This is already demonstrated by Anilive/Nexas/IRIAM/Bond. Companies whose entire premise is "Good Enough & More Convenient", they somewhat worked in Japan but completely fell flat in EN. Maaaaaaaaaybe AI can be a thing in JP but they have always been slow to catch up with technologies. They literally are still shilling NFTs.

 

[tarkanoltr]

 

[bothyourhouses]

Pretending they did nothing wrong (and especially with how Mimi completely lost her mind afterwards) just lets Globie get the benefit of the doubt that maybe they did deserve it in some way.

What kind of backwards logic is that? You shouldn't give people or companies the benefit of the doubt when they don't give reasons. Even a Niji list is better than saying nothing, that's at least something concrete that the talent can refute. If both sides mutually agree that it was a breach of contract or what have you then sure, but if the talent says they didn't do nothing and the corp says they breached contact but won't tell you when or how, that means the corp has even less reason than you think.

Europe have some strong labor boards with a lot of legal power. In some countries you can show jap shitty contract and some reciepts to authorities, they void it, then any corpo lawsuit attempt will be instadenied without your intervention.

All of which only applies to employees, which vtuber talents aren't, at least prima facie. They might be able to make a case that they're being treated as employees, but they'd have to go to court and prove that first to get access to any of the shortcut procedures.

 

[Aka Split]

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Ina's stream is FAKE! She's using GREEN SCREEN!

 

[NeneLOVE]

You missed out a lot of collabs they did before this one
Also

IDK Why Dooby CCV plummeted so hard

She has leveled off after the post-graduation hype dissipated.

Remember when doki was getting 60k every stream and retards thought that was gonna be the norm?

What kind of backwards logic is that? You shouldn't give people or companies the benefit of the doubt when they don't give reasons. Even a Niji list is better than saying nothing, that's at least something concrete that the talent can refute. If both sides mutually agree that it was a breach of contract or what have you then sure, but if the talent says they didn't do nothing and the corp says they breached contact but won't tell you when or how, that means the corp has even less reason than you think.

Globie isn't particularly popular or noteworthy, staying silent works for companies nobody gives a shit about. Even more for something like Brave which unless you have a fucking chart (wink nudge) is pretty freaking hard to grasp for the average person.

 

[Unseiso Dragon]

Not sure if it's a W considering the alternative but ok marimari

 

[Lazybug]

Squirmimi is spilling more tea
Apparently they got mad at her and her gen mates for using throne but only because he didn't want them accepting gifts over 50$ (
Because he thought the company would be taxed for them?
She tried to explain to him that not how it works but he apparently got pissed at this
"Everything you do belongs to the company have you not even read your contract?"
>the head manager
There's nothing mentioning throne in the contract
He called her rude and insisted
everyone else thinks she's rude for asking for clarifications "You're being rude to me so I'm beingrude to you" again her head manager
She's saying her head manger had O experience with vtubers and that why head manger freaked out about seely saying she was in the mob in her lore he did not understand
Apparently he also had O idea what a shadow ban was

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Sorry this messy trying to jot it down as she talks

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She's says she's fairly certain her head manager was not qualified for the job and took her asking questions as a personal insult and that's why she was fired
Also they have yet to send her her last pay. Check and isn't sure even if they will
And now she's saying her members should back charge their memberships lol.
Oh no she's saying she's been to VT twice