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Salado

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Abomination

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Nice to hear about the EP too. Actually about to go on a couple-hour drive, so I might pop it on for the drive. Kind of interested in picking up a deluxe physical copy for the signed copy.
Update on this:

Listened to it on my drive, and I like it! I think my favorite is one of the newer songs, Hikari. Listened to it a few times on the drive. Botan's singing is very nice in it, as well as all the other songs. Good job to her on this. Very nice.
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Late on this, but Peo hit 80k subs during her endurance karaoke stream. Congrats to her!
 

Todd's Strongest Howard

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I wonder what was the dude's plan here.
Just murder-rape and then go to prison? Or was he delusional enough to believe he'll be welcomed with open arms and won't face any consequences for this.

Clearly he tagged a specimen in the wild and hoped to follow her back to her pod so he could strike it rich harvesting what he needs from the ocean and head back home loaded.
 

El Rrata

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Damn, such comradery. You love to see it.
 

nooternun

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The IP is the only asset the "partnership" has, what else could they realistically give an investor as surety? If I was going buy someone a model and get paid back from their streaming earnings, I would absolutely want to own a share of the IP, otherwise what stops them walking away?
I am no expert so I honestly don't know. IP for Ririsya, I assume, would be her Name and Likeness plus earnings avenues. Signing a contract with an investor with stipulations for the return of the investment amount and a share of profits before and after doing so could be something short of owning IP. Additionally, such a contract could have a sunset, buyout clause or investor option to continue the contract unless an opt-out fee is paid. Assuming such contracts are viable the investor would have the option to go to court to recoup losses but would not have access to IP.

Anyways, I am sad I missed Fubuki's live, live. I thought the Holoplus app would help but I don't remember a notification. Hololive subreddit has given up on promoting JP events and the vt sub only has indie posts so you have to swim thru the weekly. Are the Wiki and the JP twitter the best places to get JP news? Where do ya'll usually get keep up with HoloJP? Discord? VT? I'll admit VT is quite useful for JP events.

Another tool I just saw via this video

- TLDW? Me too. He plugs this website that is useful to track events
https://merch-matome.com/ - It's basically dedicated to merch events in JP. Watch the video for a longer explanation
I know Note.com has a few bloggers that are dedicated to news like https://note.com/resemara_fukurou/ but it's a pain to navigate. It does produce gems like this
https://note.com/ibara_base/n/nb9ecb7cdd71e - The title is "Why you should think that female Vtubers playing FPS are having internet sex". :pikacringe:
 

ex_lurker

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God's Strongest Dragoon

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Jokes on you retard! THAT'S ALREADY ON MY CHART! HA!
What an... IDIOT!
Good point. HOWEVER...you need to add the new VSPO! members, Choya Hanabi and Amayui Moka, as they debuted on November 2nd as part of the main JP branch.
 

Nenélove

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Good point. HOWEVER...you need to add the new VSPO! members, Choya Hanabi and Amayui Moka, as they debuted on November 2nd as part of the main JP branch.
Moving goalposts are we? I'll update the chart once brave has gone through enough changes, I'm not gonna make a new version every damn week.
 

Aquatic Novellite

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It helps that she looks her age and does not try to desperately relive her teenage years like some other hags (*cough* Mikeneko *cough*)
I have absolutely no idea how one can look at that picture and see that, rather than filtered Japanese female #8476278
 

closedblas

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Anyways, I am sad I missed Fubuki's live, live. I thought the Holoplus app would help but I don't remember a notification. Hololive subreddit has given up on promoting JP events and the vt sub only has indie posts so you have to swim thru the weekly. Are the Wiki and the JP twitter the best places to get JP news? Where do ya'll usually get keep up with HoloJP? Discord? VT? I'll admit VT is quite useful for JP events.
Hey it's me, the MVP, the GOAT.

 

frz

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Allegedly, the two are related:


Idk why but I keep seeing her twitter handle as "Cum IQ"
Right now there is the best guitar player/singer/songwriter in the world, and you will never know they even existed. Because they didn't have the luck to get discovered by a company, or go viral.

Expecting to just turn on a computer, join a bloated market, offer nothing new, and expect to make ALL the money shows how insane this person is. I don't even need the narcissism about how her? failing is everyone else's fault.
Even if you "offer something new" you still arent guaranteed to be success. Anything about entertainment industry has never been about talent. It's about marketting. Do you think Nicki Minaj is the greatest female rapper who ever lived?

If you want a career in the streaming scene, you need to befriend bigger streamers. Getting in on a company at its core is just having someone else befriending bigger streamers for you. My favorite non-vtuber example is "tinakitten", she doesnt have any talent, isn't in anyway funny, her entire stick is being "kinda cute". Instead of pressing go live. She spent 2 entire years behind the scene marketting and infiltrating OTV and she become big the moment she started streaming. If you dont want the hard route, going to twitchcon and have sex with bigger streamers is probs the shortest path.

Even if you go absolute viral it wont amount to stream numbers and ultimately income. There are so many tiktok/shorts merchant that aint earning much due to horrible adshare on those platform.

There is also the case of codemiko, offered something new and went viral. But quickly losing viewership, fumbled every marketting opportunity. She still has a decent 1k average ccv to this day, but not a single one of them are there to see the vtuber codemiko, all of them are there for the flesh streamer and ended up selling the vtuber model.
Anyways, I am sad I missed Fubuki's live, live. I thought the Holoplus app would help but I don't remember a notification. Hololive subreddit has given up on promoting JP events and the vt sub only has indie posts so you have to swim thru the weekly. Are the Wiki and the JP twitter the best places to get JP news? Where do ya'll usually get keep up with HoloJP? Discord? VT? I'll admit VT is quite useful for JP events.
For streams I mainly use Holodex, most talents schedule their stream way in advanced so you wont be missing important streams. Holodex even had schedule on the Fubuki x Yuuki Aoi yesterday, a stream that happened in a random ass japanese app under the Hologoe project.

Idk about specific events and random news though. I just read the misc events using TVA lolw.
 
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kushami tasukaru

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774inc's Hebiyoi Tier starting FF1 at 6PM JST.

Edit: Her team is Fighter Hebiyoi (Tier), Monk Amaui, White Mage (Kohaku) Yuri, and Black Mage (Sekishiro) Mico.
I did finish the game using Fighter, Monk, White Mage, Red Mage.

For those who didn't like Ryugasaki Rene's new look, she drops another catastrophic event.
 
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bothyourhouses

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Signing a contract with an investor with stipulations for the return of the investment amount and a share of profits before and after doing so could be something short of owning IP.
What profits though? If you write a contract saying you get a share of YouTube profits, they can stream on Twitch. If you write a contract saying a share of all streaming profits, they can sell merch and take sponsorships. If you close off all those routes, they can sublicense their likeness to a separate entity that then does all the moneymaking.

If you want a revenue share deal (and a new vtuber probably can't pay a reasonable flat fee, so that's the only sensible option), the only safe way to do it is a share of the entity that owns the character, or a share of all revenue generated directly or indirectly from the character - which is either going to mean owning a share of the character IP, or having such broad rights over it that it's essentially equivalent to ownership.
 

nooternun

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Hey it's me, the MVP, the GOAT.

Is this your calendar? Looks cool
For streams I mainly use Holodex, most talents schedule their stream way in advanced so you wont be missing important streams. Holodex even had schedule on the Fubuki x Yuuki Aoi yesterday, a stream that happened in a random ass japanese app under the Hologoe project.

Idk about specific events and random news though. I just read the misc events using TVA lolw.
I forgot about Holodex! TVA lolw?
What profits though? If you write a contract saying you get a share of YouTube profits, they can stream on Twitch. If you write a contract saying a share of all streaming profits, they can sell merch and take sponsorships. If you close off all those routes, they can sublicense their likeness to a separate entity that then does all the moneymaking.

If you want a revenue share deal (and a new vtuber probably can't pay a reasonable flat fee, so that's the only sensible option), the only safe way to do it is a share of the entity that owns the character, or a share of all revenue generated directly or indirectly from the character - which is either going to mean owning a share of the character IP, or having such broad rights over it that it's essentially equivalent to ownership.
Your example is correct but also exists for corpos, remember Yuri? PC owned that IP and still lost out (on future income). From there the difference is IP vs. monetary damages and PC has Yuri's IP but as far as I know not the money. Can you give an example where an investor recouped their investment by utilizing the IP? I can think of a few where they tanked the value instead.

The contract itself can stipulate where and how the IP earns income relative to the agreement. From there if the contract is broken, maybe discord sessions with simps, then contractual penalties are applied. The more I think about it the less I think IP ownership is worth it.
 

kushami tasukaru

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UniVirtual's Shiratama Utano with a 3D karaoke.

She might have guests.

VSpo's Asumi Sena will undergo a surgery for her throat.

Might be off for a couple weeks. She might upload a video talking about the situation later.
 

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Let Jelly inspire you to conquer the world with her.
 

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New Ichiban Kuji featuring Okayu, Suesei, Pekora and Koyori in Cyberpunk style is announced for next year!

 

Aquatic Novellite

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Let Jelly inspire you to conquer the world with her.
And celebrate miscegenation.

Opis was all about Alexander mixing Greek and Persian blood, after all.
 

RestlessRain

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And celebrate miscegenation.

Opis was all about Alexander mixing Greek and Persian blood, after all.
You're not going to help Jelly take over ancient Persia with that sort of attitude.
 

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