General Thread v3: The Hexagone

[Pencilfreak]

Kanade cute.

 

[Security]

Nene intentionally mistranslated a word and puts the blame on her JP viewers.

I was expecting her to mistranslate a different word:

 

[NeneHATE]

And Calli immediately put her boot on the neck of the shithead who started it, and the Holofans came out immediately with pitchforks for artists. These artists don't understand the consequences until the intimidation stage. Skipping into the kowtow stage only emboldens them and they will probably use it as a shield against angry Matara fans.

Calli mega for that tbh.

Further context:
She had been commissioning the dude for her waiting screen bgm, and he even brought her up in his epic takedown on the dogs as proof of professionalism or whatever.
The wigger instantly unfollowed him, removed his music from her streams and cut all ties. Motherfucker could've been like faketype making music for Korone or Kay making animations for MVs if he'd resisted the urge to farm some internet clout and moralfag points. The memories still make me smile to this day...

 

[Shuba]

(57:09 timestamp)

Just wanted to highlight some pink woman good (Not that one). Ceci's been streaming DS3 for about 13 hours now as the finale to her birthday week. Calli had a stream scheduled for the start of the hour, but delayed it 15 minutes so she could chat with Ceci, give her some tips and make sure she's doing okay. And this is after she already joined VC a few hours ago with Biboo and Raora.

Edit: Ceci finished a bit ago so added the timestamp for when Calli came in. Green thing raided Calli right after and said thanks

Also slightly paraphrased but incredibly based:

Chat: "Aren't you in the League of Legends collab happening soon?"
Calli: "No. I'd rather perish."

 

[VSoyBoy]

I don't understand why Mouse change her vtuber model frequently, like she should just stick to one or three models.

That's what she does most of the time. She has maybe 2 to 3 main models at a time that she will use on rotation. Most of the models in that list are either:
- One-offs for Music Videos, Concerts or other events
- 3D models that she doesn't use for regular streams/only uses in VRChat
- Seasonal outfits like Halloween, and I'm sure she has a Christmas themed one coming
- Joke/Chibi models based on other existing outfits

I think it's kind of impressive how Mouse can have so many models and have them all recognisably "her". You wouldn't mistake them once you knew her. Aside from a few, they're all pretty tightly wound up in her brand and in about 3 different base appearances.

That too, Ironmouse has pretty strong brand recognition. Most of the main models really are just a wardrobe and hairstyle change. The only thing that is often inconsistent is her horns.

 

[agility_]

The whole debut and graduation of meica from Idol just goes to show the point that the LATAM segment is really not hard-weeb'd enough to support vtubing. It's one thing to catch a stream casually, but what corpos and indies seek are dedicated, obscenely brain-wiped zealots who will pour down those supachats and merch orders every step of the way.
You can't make the excuse that "but LATAMs are too poor" because look at ID, and those guys have had a non-functioning economy since 1997.

 

[Rinfriend]

Ironmouse has pretty strong brand recognition.

So strong that any pink woman that has slightly similar features to hers will forever get compared.

 

[closedblas]

Also, that is a huge crowd, I didn't know they were that popular
I s Isegye Idol the Hololive of Korea?

They went pretty hard on kpop music side - grinding Melon charts etc. IIRC they got Billboard weekly top 3 for South Korea some time ago.
When they started, they did public public auditions on VRChat, idol talent competition style a la Produce 101, at a time when that style of reality TV was still arguably peaking.
Korean Pewdiepie drove the whole thing and later signed them, so there's no fumbling around learning how to market streamers.
Getting serious sponsors - LG, Lego, Nvidia, AMD, Naver etc. looks really good.

Also after Korea cut off Twitch earlier this year, that entire side of "online entertainment" is insanely well-contained to Afreeca (now renamed SOOP).
I think it's quite a different thing from "vtubing" as we understand it and I don't think it's replicable in any other market.
Very few people on this forum would be interested in how they do things.

No EOPs and no yabs, just two completely unrelated facts btw.
Maybe Koreans are so desensitized to being parasocial with kpop idols that vtubers/streamers seem relatively distant lmao.
Look into PLAVE if you guys want to experience being oddly impressed by highly skilled dudes but it doing nothing for you since you're heterosexual.

 

[lakyus]

As Amiya said, it's Dinovember, baby!

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

As Amiya said, it's Dinovember, baby!

>Trespasser
Guaranteed kino

 

[Poyoyo & Jill]

They also held a outdoor concert as seen above which also featured irl Kpop girls Kiara recognised and that for their 3D Live, the girls all have different outfits to each other and for each song, unlike Hololive
Also the main screen in the middle is curved, she wonders if that has any benefits to just a regular flat screen for the irl audience

They have been 6 vtubers since their Inception in 2021 so they dont have to share their stuff with 90+ other vtubers

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Also, that is a huge crowd, I didn't know they were that popular
I s Isegye Idol the Hololive of Korea?

No, they're the FlaVR of Korea. Or maybe the Socks Agency of Korea.

The difference is that Koreans are giga idol autists, and shit like this

No seriously, yes. Isegye was founded out of an reality-tv-style audition show hosted by massive korean streamer Woowakgood and they've always done Hololive numbers from the start. Originally all their models were VRChat free models and they basically individualized them taking advantage of community-made models, hired talent from the community for MVs and concerts and so on. It's like if Hololive grew from grassroots support instead of being a corpo. Mind you this was after Hololive had already boomed so they had a lot of the gen and idol and fanwork concepts baked into vtuber fandom already.

is what happens when Koreans do shit for fun and then insert idol autism.

 

[sbm]

They went pretty hard on kpop music side - grinding Melon charts etc. IIRC they got Billboard weekly top 3 for South Korea some time ago.
When they started, they did public public auditions on VRChat, idol talent competition style a la Produce 101, at a time when that style of reality TV was still arguably peaking.
Korean Pewdiepie drove the whole thing and later signed them, so there's no fumbling around learning how to market streamers.
Getting serious sponsors - LG, Lego, Nvidia, AMD, Naver etc. looks really good.

Also after Korea cut off Twitch earlier this year, that entire side of "online entertainment" is insanely well-contained to Afreeca (now renamed SOOP).
I think it's quite a different thing from "vtubing" as we understand it and I don't think it's replicable in any other market.
Very few people on this forum would be interested in how they do things.

No EOPs and no yabs, just two completely unrelated facts btw.
Maybe Koreans are so desensitized to being parasocial with kpop idols that vtubers/streamers seem relatively distant lmao.
Look into PLAVE if you guys want to experience being oddly impressed by highly skilled dudes but it doing nothing for you since you're heterosexual.

Just being honest here: I think Korean vtubing was tremendously lucky that Isegye happened the way it did. It was only a matter of time before the corporate interests in the kpop scene wanted in on girl group vtubing, we're seeing that now in 2023 and 2024. If one of those groups was the first, rather than it being Wakgood crafting this semi-indie thing out of whole cloth, there would be some serious problems that Isegye thankfully doesn't have.

 

[Scoots]

I don't understand why Mouse change her vtuber model frequently, like she should just stick to one or three models.

She's been bedridden a lot of her life she views it as her finally caring about what she wants to wear and show off living vicariously through vtubing and utilizing all it's benefits to the max plus she's rich and has nothing to spend money on even with all the charity she does so why not buy more of the vtuber equivalent of clothes

 

[NeneHATE]

The whole debut and graduation of meica from Idol just goes to show the point that the LATAM segment is really not hard-weeb'd enough to support vtubing. It's one thing to catch a stream casually, but what corpos and indies seek are dedicated, obscenely brain-wiped zealots who will pour down those supachats and merch orders every step of the way.
You can't make the excuse that "but LATAMs are too poor" because look at ID, and those guys have had a non-functioning economy since 1997.

I remember when IdolES was gonna be the HoloEN of the jews, bringing vtubing to a whole new market! Except all of us latinos have said a gazillion times that vtubing isn't popular here and the people who care about it already watch Holo or Phase or whatever.

 

[El Rrata]

I remember when IdolES was gonna be the HoloEN of the jews, bringing vtubing to a whole new market! Except all of us latinos have said a gazillion times that vtubing isn't popular here and the people who care about it already watch Holo or Phase or whatever.

Their mistake was not making Goku into a VTuber. That's the real way to capture the LATAM VTubing market.

 

[Postal rrat]

Their mistake was not making Goku into a VTuber. That's the real way to capture the LATAM VTubing market.

I mean you joke but maybe...

 

[Henrik Carter]

 

[El Rrata]

(57:09 timestamp)


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Just wanted to highlight some pink woman good (Not that one). Ceci's been streaming DS3 for about 13 hours now as the finale to her birthday week. Calli had a stream scheduled for the start of the hour, but delayed it 15 minutes so she could chat with Ceci, give her some tips and make sure she's doing okay. And this is after she already joined VC a few hours ago with Biboo and Raora.

Edit: Ceci finished a bit ago so added the timestamp for when Calli came in. Green thing raided Calli right after and said thanks
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Also slightly paraphrased but incredibly based:

Chat: "Aren't you in the League of Legends collab happening soon?"
Calli: "No. I'd rather perish."

She beat it pretty easily when she did start the stream.

 

[Scoots]

Mila says get better opsec