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General Thread v3: The Hexagone

Pencilfreak

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JellyKusa

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I start this stream, everyone yelling they are refunding "this shit" due to the lag
I never forget the Uno collab Kiara did with Pomu and some other Nijisanji girls
And the Ubisoft online stuff just didn't work and Kiara was shitting all over the game and the Uno online code
And the Nijigirls just had to sit there in silence because apparently trash talking games inst allowed
Thought the discussion about merch after graduation started because they released the recent EnReco Myth merch which includes Ame, but turns out it's yet another Gura timeloop. :guraeating:

This is true. Holofans will go all out on shitting at Cover for something like a missing or delayed tweet (eg. them being slow at tweeting about Mumei 1M milestone).
TBH I was never able to identify with those complaints. Sure, they can justify it as those being very very important tweets, but in the end they are still tweets. I care more about substantial stuff like projects, outfits, 3D lives, etc.
To be fair, most of the people getting mad at late official Cover Tweets are various degrees of council sisters and their folk. I don't even know if they are really Hololive fans, because most of them are just KronMei or KronFauMei fans and more fans of the fictional ship in their heads (TransMasc Kronii is a classic amongst them)




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Kiara shared this about Gosegus company, Isegye Idol
She watched a bunch of their 3D Live stuff and yeah their tracking do be really impressive

They also held a outdoor concert as seen above which also featured irl Kpop girls Kiara recognised and that for their 3D Live, the girls all have different outfits to each other and for each song, unlike Hololive
Also the main screen in the middle is curved, she wonders if that has any benefits to just a regular flat screen for the irl audience

Also, that is a huge crowd, I didn't know they were that popular
I s Isegye Idol the Hololive of Korea?
 

God's Strongest Mozumite

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John Vtuber👁️

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congratulations to the artists that pitched a fit on twitter, they got exactly what they wanted!

and now comes the consequences of their greed, get your popcorn while it’s hot, just watch the inevitable backstabbings unfold in real time
 

Pencilfreak

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News from Matara-kan's stream:

Sometime tomorrow, Matara will be releasing an official apology and revising the terms for her art contest of Vshojo members. Apparently internet artists raked her over the coals for not giving them enough time and not paying them enough to participate in her contest. She's updating the terms to give contest participants 6 weeks to draw instead of 4 and giving them a total prize pool of 8k instead of 5k. She cried about it last night and is still tempted to pull the plug on the contest, and no matter the outcome she will not do another one anytime soon. Vshojo management signed off on everything, so she was completely blindsided by the reactions from some twitter fags.


"I did not mean to not recognize how hard it is to be an artist" Matara-kan 2024


Fucking twitter "artists" can die in a fire as far as I'm concerned, imagine bullying someone because they wanted to pay fanartists who wouldn't normally get paid at all. :PomuAngry:
Jesus Christ! Twitter artists have nooo fucking chill.
 

Dispirited Helmet

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congratulations to the artists that pitched a fit on twitter, they got exactly what they wanted!

and now comes the consequences of their greed, get your popcorn while it’s hot, just watch the inevitable backstabbings unfold in real time
Tara was begging people on stream to not escalate things on Twitter, I honestly hope the fags keep it to themselves because she is taking all of this as her fault :painpeko:
 

CalciumAnimal

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Just ban twitter from participating in anything ever.
 

John Vtuber👁️

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Tara was begging people on stream to not escalate things on Twitter, I honestly hope the fags keep it to themselves because she is taking all of this as her fault :painpeko:

we all know that’s not going to happen, unfortunately!

twitter artists hate!
 

Negzana

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Still no Kaela and worse yet Lia's Sunday Mass was held back a day.

May the day I was born perish, and the night it was declared, "A male child is conceived." May that day be darkness; may God above not seek it, nor light shine upon it. Let darkness and the shadow of death claim it; may a cloud settle over it, and may the blackness of the day terrify it. As for that night, may darkness seize it; may it not rejoice among the days of the year, nor come into the number of months. Oh, let that night be barren! May no joyful shout enter it. May those who curse the day curse it, those prepared to rouse Leviathan. May its morning stars be dark; may it look for light but find none, and may it not see the dawn. For it did not close the doors of my mother’s womb, nor hide sorrow from my eyes.

Why did I not die at birth? Why did I not perish when I came from the womb? Why were there knees to receive me or breasts that I should nurse? For now, I would be lying still and quiet, asleep and at rest with kings and counselors of the earth who built ruins for themselves, or with princes who had gold and filled their houses with silver. Or why was I not hidden like a stillborn child, like infants who never saw the light? There, the wicked cease from troubling, and the weary find rest. Prisoners rest together; they do not hear the voice of the oppressor. Both small and great are there, and the servant is free from his master.

Why is light given to the miserable, and life to the bitter of soul? They long for death, but it does not come; they search for it more than hidden treasures. They rejoice exceedingly and are glad when they can find the grave. Why is light given to a man whose way is hidden and whom God has surrounded with pain? For my sighing comes before I eat, and my groanings pour out like water. What I greatly feared has come upon me, and what I dreaded has happened. I am not at ease, nor am I quiet; I have no rest, for trouble comes.
 

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You start talking to me about blue girls and we're going to have to take this to the degeneracy thread :ponrys::MozumiPichi:
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Hff201

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That is EXACTLY why Fwmc didn't pay them, the second money enters the equation it stops being fun and starts being serious business. Cash prizes attract a whole other crowd of bloodsuckers who only care about winning and they are experts at bitching.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If you offer cash it loses the spirit of being a fun thing for fans, if you don't offer cash they all cry about how you're exploiting them and paying them in "exposure", as though their work being promoted on a popular livestream is somehow inherently taking advantage of them. Hell even if there's a generous cash prize they'll still complain about how you're just disguising spec work as a contest.

Twitter artists are miserable people who ruin anything they see.
 

Nenélove

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I never forget the Uno collab Kiara did with Pomu and some other Nijisanji girls
And the Ubisoft online stuff just didn't work and Kiara was shitting all over the game and the Uno online code
And the Nijigirls just had to sit there in silence because apparently trash talking games inst allowed

To be fair, most of the people getting mad at late official Cover Tweets are various degrees of council sisters and their folk. I don't even know if they are really Hololive fans, because most of them are just KronMei or KronFauMei fans and more fans of the fictional ship in their heads (TransMasc Kronii is a classic amongst them)




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Kiara shared this about Gosegus company, Isegye Idol
She watched a bunch of their 3D Live stuff and yeah their tracking do be really impressive

They also held a outdoor concert as seen above which also featured irl Kpop girls Kiara recognised and that for their 3D Live, the girls all have different outfits to each other and for each song, unlike Hololive
Also the main screen in the middle is curved, she wonders if that has any benefits to just a regular flat screen for the irl audience

Also, that is a huge crowd, I didn't know they were that popular
I s Isegye Idol the Hololive of Korea?

They are the biggest corpo in korea and basically have a monopoly over that market
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If you offer cash it loses the spirit of being a fun thing for fans, if you don't offer cash they all cry about how you're exploiting them and paying them in "exposure", as though their work being promoted on a popular livestream is somehow inherently taking advantage of them. Hell even if there's a generous cash prize they'll still complain about how you're just disguising spec work as a contest.

Twitter artists are miserable people who ruin anything they see.
Nobody except that one retard cried about the Fwmc contest, people understand it's for the fans. And he lost all future projects with the company after that.
 

VSoyBoy

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sbm

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I never forget the Uno collab Kiara did with Pomu and some other Nijisanji girls
And the Ubisoft online stuff just didn't work and Kiara was shitting all over the game and the Uno online code
And the Nijigirls just had to sit there in silence because apparently trash talking games inst allowed
To play devil's advocate, I seem to remember Sana being told she can't use the word kusoge on her schedules because it calls the game bad.

Any policy Cover has never really extended past that, but even so I don't think any policy would stop Kiara from speaking her mind lol.
I s Isegye Idol the Hololive of Korea?
Yes.

No seriously, yes. Isegye was founded out of an reality-tv-style audition show hosted by massive korean streamer Woowakgood and they've always done Hololive numbers from the start. Originally all their models were VRChat free models and they basically individualized them taking advantage of community-made models, hired talent from the community for MVs and concerts and so on. It's like if Hololive grew from grassroots support instead of being a corpo. Mind you this was after Hololive had already boomed so they had a lot of the gen and idol and fanwork concepts baked into vtuber fandom already.

Their only real competition in the korean market is Hololive itself.
 

Pencilfreak

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God's Strongest Mozumite

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Still no Kaela and worse yet Lia's Sunday Mass was held back a day.

May the day I was born perish, and the night it was declared, "A male child is conceived." May that day be darkness; may God above not seek it, nor light shine upon it. Let darkness and the shadow of death claim it; may a cloud settle over it, and may the blackness of the day terrify it. As for that night, may darkness seize it; may it not rejoice among the days of the year, nor come into the number of months. Oh, let that night be barren! May no joyful shout enter it. May those who curse the day curse it, those prepared to rouse Leviathan. May its morning stars be dark; may it look for light but find none, and may it not see the dawn. For it did not close the doors of my mother’s womb, nor hide sorrow from my eyes.

Why did I not die at birth? Why did I not perish when I came from the womb? Why were there knees to receive me or breasts that I should nurse? For now, I would be lying still and quiet, asleep and at rest with kings and counselors of the earth who built ruins for themselves, or with princes who had gold and filled their houses with silver. Or why was I not hidden like a stillborn child, like infants who never saw the light? There, the wicked cease from troubling, and the weary find rest. Prisoners rest together; they do not hear the voice of the oppressor. Both small and great are there, and the servant is free from his master.

Why is light given to the miserable, and life to the bitter of soul? They long for death, but it does not come; they search for it more than hidden treasures. They rejoice exceedingly and are glad when they can find the grave. Why is light given to a man whose way is hidden and whom God has surrounded with pain? For my sighing comes before I eat, and my groanings pour out like water. What I greatly feared has come upon me, and what I dreaded has happened. I am not at ease, nor am I quiet; I have no rest, for trouble comes.
Do I sense a poor forum poster with no one to watch? Have no fear, citizen, why not take a chance on a brown woman? Like Tomoe Umari, who is making some adorable sprite art:

EDIT: Nevermind she just ended stream. I blame you Neg.

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Void Scribas

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Today is Meica graduation of Idol. Which is not going to affect much in her career considering she always owned her IP.

 

Zizara

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I don't understand why Mouse change her vtuber model frequently, like she should just stick to one or three models.
I think it's kind of impressive how Mouse can have so many models and have them all recognisably "her". You wouldn't mistake them once you knew her. Aside from a few, they're all pretty tightly wound up in her brand and in about 3 different base appearances.
 

Smelliest007

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Twitter seethed about that too. "Artists" in those circles are notoriously the most entitled and work-shy fuckers around. It's not like they're being forced to participate. Because honestly? 5 Grand would be good money for a month's deadline on a commission if they were sane, and the promotion for runners up is solid too.

Matara's talking about how she needs to be very careful and over-explain things now when she's dealing with "people from outside the momo community". So good job twitter, ruining free promotion and cash for everyone who's actually interested in working, as usual.
And Calli immediately put her boot on the neck of the shithead who started it, and the Holofans came out immediately with pitchforks for artists. These artists don't understand the consequences until the intimidation stage. Skipping into the kowtow stage only emboldens them and they will probably use it as a shield against angry Matara fans.
 

Hff201

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And the Nijigirls just had to sit there in silence because apparently trash talking games inst allowed
To play devil's advocate, I seem to remember Sana being told she can't use the word kusoge on her schedules because it calls the game bad.
To be fair, this is just a problem with Japan's copyright autism, it creates an inherent conflict of interest since the publisher of the product being critiqued has final say over whether said critique can be published or not. It places the power entirely in the copyright holder's hands which scares the talent agencies into playing nice with them, since any permission they have to create derivative works can be taken away just as easily as it was given. They don't want to risk a situation where a particular publisher is upset with a stream about one of their games and revokes permission across the board, since Cover saw first-hand how damning having to remove huge portions of their channels' video libraries can be.

You see a similar problem in English-speaking countries in gaming journalism. Reviewers have to request pre-release copies of a game from the publisher in order to have their review prepared in time for the game's official release. Some publishers are hands-off and distribute them through middleman companies, but they still have the means to blacklist specific outlets if they so desire - which leads to most reviewers shamelessly fellating every mainstream AAA game, because they don't want to risk losing the pageviews that come from having day-one coverage of hotly-anticipated releases.

Japan's copyright problem is just a worse version of that, since not only can publishers inconvenience people who're too critical of their products like they do with journos over here, but they have the means to strike down unwanted coverage and severely cripple the businesses of those doing it.
 
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