General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

[kestraline]

Caramel Idol is doing vtuber calls for her birthday.

 

[MerryKusa]

Aviel used to be the most successful Israeli youtuber. Apparently he saved away some money for that to invest in this project.

The real question I'd be asking is, what's the gameplan to make Idol Corp a profitable concern? Jambalaya hit it on the head with how Phase managed it - do the cons, do the meet-and-greets, keep on working on audience engagement outside of streams and build up a network of heavily-invested fans. I think Idol Corp should consider a similar approach.

I know it's kinda far-fetched, but is it possible to draw a parallel between Holo/Niji and Phase/Idol?

As in, I regard both Holo and Phase seem to try to have more of a dedicated Fanbase and want to achieve that by interconnecting the talents inside the company. Basically, try to have the fans not only to be of 1 member but turn them into fans that cheer for the whole company.

Whereas Idol and Niji seem more concerned about chasing big numbers and their talents don't as connected within the company as in Holo or Phase. In Niji because it's just waay too big and too many people at this point to be even aware of everyone, in Idol it seems like Rin mostly keeps to herself.

So its once again, a contest of dedicated, obsessed Fanbase vs. broad casual appeal
And so far, the first one seems to be the more profitable

 

[Negzana]

I don't particularly care for Ark but these streams have been a huge boom for Aki and have been making more people notice her. Hopefully they stumble upon her music work and she finally gets more recognition for it

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Just look left slightly to see the best Pokemon.

All i see is Corviknight glad we agree.

Shit stats and ugly design.
Yukimenoko is the better Ice type
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Acceptable.

 

[Bug Eater]

Rosemi and Doppio were invited to an official YGO competition where they will be coached & play matches against each other, probably the most chuuni pair they could find. (I know at least Rosemi has played the game a bunch before, although I couldn't say if she's actually good or not)

Spoiler: tweet

For some rare non-sponsored Niji posting, Lia's collab with Dizzy is just starting:

 

[kestraline]

Rosemi and Doppio were invited to an official YGO competition, probably the most chuuni pair they could find. (I know at least Rosemi has played the game a bunch before, although I couldn't say if she's actually good or not)

Spoiler: tweet

For some rare non-sponsored Niji posting, Lia's collab with Dizzy is just starting:

It keeps on happening.

 

[Negzana]

It alread peaked

 

[Limkin]

Happy funny laughing Dizzy makes me want to sign up the marriage proposal. But then I sober up and remember she is like this for like 10 seconds per month

 

[Negzana]

Rinmama claimed Lia's sonic screwdriver was an anal probe.... Lia was in elementary school

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

Koefficient started doing some viewer clips thing and he had one on that I find highly ironic in recent days. Should be properly timestamped. If not, cope. I did my part already and if it doesn't work for you, skill issue, It Works On My Machine, rest in piss, etc.

TW: Kyo

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Happy funny laughing Dizzy makes me want to sign up the marriage proposal. But then I sober up and remember she is like this for like 10 seconds per month

Just reinforce your pelvis with metal rods and make your tires slashproof, you'd be atleast 15% protected from the menhera at that point but its a start

 

[BlueSharkTV]

Kronii touching grass, maybe she won't stream this week. archive

and fuwamoco playing parasocial in over an hour.

 

[Nigel Nigerman]

Millie Parfait is live right now, currently has 2.4K viewers, and I'm pretty sure she's a Flip. I call bullshit.

If Millie wasn't FAT and a Flip she'd probably get a lot more viewers and superchats.

I think it's because shes one of the notable people who actually benefited from the shorts meta even though there's the argument that most of it didn't translate to her CCV(which I absolutely don't give a shit about) and is generally in a happy place right now.

That and they probably just hate hardworking people given how her work ethics as of late borders that of a workaholic(script writing and brainstorming for new schemes) it's bordering alcoholic status just like her mother's.

Fixed.

Well Megumi is an ex-ethot too...

Just imagine having a v-thot manage a v-thot...

 

[nooternun]

Some big things
The minecraft test of courage event finished last weekend. Here is the playlist of admin perspective streams

The participant list

9/28、29、30、10/1開催！ 超豪華ゲストが参戦するマイクラ肝試し2023Virtual Week出演者タイムスケジュールをご紹介！ 週刊チャンネルウォッチ9/27号|ガジェット通信 GetNews

9/28、29、30、10/1開催！ 超豪華ゲストが参戦するマイクラ肝試し2023Virtual Week出演者タイムスケジュールをご紹介！ 週刊チャンネルウォッチ9/27号

getnews.jp

They also had some mini-games for everyone to play and Fubuki won the fishing game. Game results:



ALSO: VCR ARK server is up
For those that don't know, VCR is the same group that had the Rust server and GTA server where various famous people role play together, including vtubers. I didn't watch the GTA one but here is an example from Rust:
Shibuhal and Kamito, VSPO adjacent, grossing Lapu out

I don't particularly care for Ark but these streams have been a huge boom for Aki and have been making more people notice her. Hopefully they stumble upon her music work and she finally gets more recognition for it

Holodex ARK filter

Holodex

Catch multiple collabs and streams using our multiview tool, find clips and listen to music/karaoke/covers from your favorite vtubers.

holodex.net

Participant list

So far from Holo: Aki, Fubuki, Towa, Astel, Axel, Roberu

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Kojima Productions Presents

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So between this and the revelation that we are the biggest rogue vtuber fanbase does that mean TVA is officially outer heaven?

 

[Cubanodun]

Koefficient started doing some viewer clips thing and he had one on that I find highly ironic in recent days. Should be properly timestamped. If not, cope. I did my part already and if it doesn't work for you, skill issue, It Works On My Machine, rest in piss, etc.

TW: Kyo

>im to scared to suck real dick
>proceed to suck Gunrun and Ironmouse dick after Nijisanji

je

 

[Shuba]

I know it's kinda far-fetched, but is it possible to draw a parallel between Holo/Niji and Phase/Idol?

As in, I regard both Holo and Phase seem to try to have more of a dedicated Fanbase and want to achieve that by interconnecting the talents inside the company. Basically, try to have the fans not only to be of 1 member but turn them into fans that cheer for the whole company.

Whereas Idol and Niji seem more concerned about chasing big numbers and their talents don't as connected within the company as in Holo or Phase. In Niji because it's just waay too big and too many people at this point to be even aware of everyone, in Idol it seems like Rin mostly keeps to herself.

So its once again, a contest of dedicated, obsessed Fanbase vs. broad casual appeal
And so far, the first one seems to be the more profitable

You are right in that this is pretty far-fetched. Rin keeping to herself doesn't mean the rest of Idol does. EN Gen 1 is overall more distant but the Idol girls will frequently collab, planned or unplanned. Riro, Yuko, Fuyo and all of Gen 2 are especially close. Pochi is more on the anti-social side and Rin is Rin so they keep to themselves. I'm honestly not too sure about Juna but she'll show up for collabs every so often. Even the HE girls will collab occasionally whenever Katta isn't busy searching for Seth #09516. I'm fairly confidant in saying that Rin is an outlier but if someone oshis one Idol girl, they'll watch another one or two at the least.

This is obviously a Phase-oriented place with actual Idol viewers being a much smaller percentage. Because of that, the main impression we get of Idol is either from numberfagging, Yuko being a degenerate or Aviel flexing his shekels on Twitter. Ultimately, these Phase vs Idol comparisons never mean anything and will always reach the same conclusion of "Rin has more subs but Phase is doing everything better" so it's funny to see how many times it's been a topic of discussion.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

So between this and the revelation that we are the biggest rogue vtuber fanbase does that mean TVA is officially outer heaven?

considering all the Architecture Big Shell you know because of all the whale watchers.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Even the HE girls will collab occasionally whenever Katta isn't busy searching for Seth #09516.

lol


Well to be fair there was also this stream earlier today and a couple of Idol grilllllz shoed up

 

[Azehara]

I came here to call these people faggots because Twitter won't let me.

It's unfortunate Riro deleted that tweet now these retards will feel validated.

Spoiler: Seething at Riro

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They all belong in a concentration camp but this guy will definitely get his own isolated room without the wooden doors

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I wish Aviel would just directly reply to these people telling them to go kill themselves.

Idol played the shorts game harder than Phase, both had ads but iirc Idol had them run for longer and im not sure but i think it even ran ads for donothons

Phase realized quick that the shorts meta didnt translate to CCV so they didnt consistenly pump them out as much as they first started and instead realized that collabs and/or just getting their word out in cons seems to be better for actually fostering a community

Payment processors that get involved in this shit also belong in the electric chair getting the dry burn.

The sad part is that payment processors often do. Not on the whims of retards on Twitter bitching but for shit like NSFW content they pull out the "ITS CHILD PORN" defense or they pull the "IM SORRY YOUR COUNTRY INVADED ANOTHER, FUCK YOU" and lock shit down

It's a matter of establishment and the type of fans. Phase has had a solid year ahead of Idol EN and has made numerous attempts to engage and create a community of more dedicated fans with events such as Phase Weekly, Phase GameJams, and Phase Wars. Rin may have more subs than the 3 biggest channels of Phase combined (Pippa, Tenma, and Shiina) but how many of those subs are dedicated watchers? How many are just random zoomers that enjoyed her shorts and subbed for that? How many members of Idol EN can the average Rin subscriber mention? The average Pippa, Tenma, and Shiina subscriber likely knows the names of nearly every in Phase or at least is partially aware of them.

Idol EN has a total sub count that dwarfs Phase Connect's total sub count but there is likely more "Phase fans" than "IdolEN fans". In summary:

Everything in the above picture applies to Phase Connect. Case in point: YOU FUCKING NEGROS HAVE AN OBSESSION WITH HIS SHITTY OVERPRICED COFFEE

Phase fans are more dedicated, true and great part of that comes from time.

We just had a proper coffee review stream on Koefficient's channel, of all places. Good stream, by the way - I actually did a writeup for it. Reportedly, most of the coffee was actually pretty decent, providing it was geared towards the taste of the person drinking it.

Despite Koe being also a terrible person to review coffee (like all the other Phase girls) he does seem to at least be impartial enough to say which are the ones that he doesn't outwardly hate. Also having a girlfriend that has some actual experience making coffee and also doing the taste test adds some legitimacy to the video.

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Where's the money coming from, Aviel?

Ad revenue. The one thing Pippa doesn't seem to have. I remember when when Rin was in the 200,000's she was getting around 3k in Ad Revenue. Also, their donothons have been disgusting. Would be nice to see the final tally from all of their Donothons. Also despite Rin being the top subbed

Audience engagement?
Just throw money into everything
"Anyone who makes fan art of a IDOL Talent receives 1 dolar for each 100 likes"
Or some shit like that with how he just did with the clips in order to solve that problem

Idol is brute forcing the concept that you have to spend money to make money and it seems to have been profitable for them. Fishman has tried doing this a few times but never at the same scale or success rate as Idol. I would kill to know exactly how much money Idol spends on advertisements, paying clippers, art commissions, and all of that compared to Phase.

How about if your company needs to suck less Luca.

idk he seems to be pretty passive aggressive towards the company in here. I said this before and I will say it again, if you are smart and you see your company is going to shit, the best course of action is to be their lapdog until your contract runs out, leave gracefully, and only then go apeshit. Or just leave it all behind and act like it never happened. Unless it's some grand level scandal no one wants to hire a person who is shittalking their company, as they will likely do the same to you

I sort of feel bad for him. It sounds like he knows why his company gets the hate it does but at the same time, he is in no position to agree with it so he is just taking the shit and walking with it. What makes me feel bad is that this is possibly the most positive member in NijiEN and from what he's saying makes me think that its starting to have a negative effect on him.

Something kinda bittersweet. One of Kaela's biggest clippers and live translators announced that he was quitting yesterday, saying that making clips eventually became a source of stress in addition to university and job stuff. He thanked her for everything, wished everyone well and even recommended other clippers to watch instead.

Relatable.

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It alread peaked

I really like Lia's old model. Honestly, they should use it for guests or give it to Rinmama or something. Such a waste to just discard it.