Of course you had to give a shit about the ES scene to know about them, you expect the gringos to watch something beyond EN and JP?.
Your argument was that it was a barren terrain, basically dead, when in reality the numbers the IdolES girls make are equal to what the most popular ES indies do. Meica herself is still one the most popular ES Vtubers and she was before joining Idol.
The point is: The Idol ES girls would make the same numbers regardless of being indie or corpo. Is the tech support what is the difference here.